What can humans claim to have created or invented? Nothing.

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  • janesix
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    It all comes from superior beings, always has. The muses, Gods, demons, aliens, fairies, we humans have created nothing. It is all revealed, never invented. 

    This is my opinion, and I believe it.

    Does anyone agree?
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    No, I don't agree. 
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    why
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    Why do you believe the opposite? Its my opinion.
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    Now do you believe my theory on brain lesions?


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    What has man invented?
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    Not quite, sorry, I tend to not like to box people. That's how people who make categorical errors make, some people in religion have... not very well thought ideas, and some do. Some atheistic people have well-thought-out ideas, and some don't. There is a big collection of modern skeptics in atheism... just like there is a scholarly sect of Christians and such.
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    Wheels, cardboard boxes, laptops, plastic cups, all sorts of things.
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    What can humans claim to have created or invented? Nothing.


     No Jayne. We have had to create our own `reality `.
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    I don't think I'm smart enough to have created my own reality. Obviously, someone much smarter has created it for me.
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    Where do we get the ideas?


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    Collection of things, our brains, other people, nature, etc... regardless if we got ideas from other things, executing the idea is different from having one. Such that even if person had an idea for a telephone, and person b made the first telephone, person b still invented the telephone. 

    Would you like me to cite each and every inventor of those things? I can do it, its pretty easy.
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    P1 all matter and energy in the universe existed before humans evolved

    P2 humans "create" by rearranging this matter and energy into configurations that suit our purposes

    C humans do not create they only reconfigure. 
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    A dictionary has all the words in it. But I still write the story.

    Is there a practical difference between "invented" and "revealed"?

    If on Tuesday, no one had a sewing machine, and on Wednesday, someone did because he thought of it, designed it and built it, then denying him the title "inventor" and saying he is just a conduit for something that a supernatural being thought up doesn't seem to be really useful.

    Of course, this isn't even really your argument so I shouldn't be asking you.
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    Conduit seems to be the correct word.
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    No, I don't agree. In 1899, late in the year, the US Patent Office had an article published in the NY Times that the patent Office would close at the end of the year because everything that could be invented had already been invented. It was a joke, but a lot of people believed it, just as they believed, contrary to being told on the hour that Orson Welles' "War of the Worlds" radio broadcast in 1938 was an actual news broadcast from New Jersey that we were, in fact, being attacked by Mars. And that is matched by many opinions expressed on History Channel's "Ancient Aliens" that our ancient ancestors would still be in caves today had we not the education of aliens to create our civilization. The same show claimed our DNA is derived from 3 basic amino acids. It happens to be 4, but, it was on TV, so it must be believed.

    Mark Twain once said, "It ain't what you don't know that gets you in to trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."

    The same kind of illogical belief as your assumption drives the absurd belief that the human mind is not creative nor inventive. Bullshyte, even if you believe those ancient aliens have names like Elohim, Jehovah, Jesus, or Allah, let alone Zeus or Mars.
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    obviously God is the greatest but humans did make a lot of inventions
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    I don't think I'm smart enough to have created my own reality.

    We all create another reality  everyday, Jayne. The chair you are siting on isn't real, it is a creation of man. It didn't grown from out of the earth  and it didn't fall from a tree. You didn't reach out and pluck it from a chair bush and it didn't crawl out of the sea. i.e  it doesn't exist in nature but in your own created reality.



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    Perhaps not Gods, Demons, Aliens or Fairies.

    But maybe a pre-ordained evolutionary inevitability....(GOD principle)

    Perhaps some species somewhere was always going to have to do the donkey work.
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    What has man invented?
    Porn.
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    This is my opinion, and I believe it.

    Does anyone agree?

    "Have you ever heard the term “the Universal Mind?” It refers to a single, unified consciousness out of which all other consciousness arises—yours included."


    "Within the Universal Mind lies untapped creativity and potential waiting to be made manifest. Unlimited possibilities beyond our wildest dreams await. Innovative ideas, inventions, and discoveries are ready to come into the world of existence. Our job: to remove the barriers that prevent us from accessing the limitless knowledge of an ever-pervasive consciousness:"





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    There are a lot of spirit workers taking about the collective consciousness and the powers that be using it to disrupt our nature to unify and work together via fear and hate.
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    There are a lot of spirit workers taking about the collective consciousness and the powers that be using it to disrupt our nature to unify and work together via fear and hate.

    Yes sure, there are many beings outside the physical world that understand how to manipulate the consciousness of man. And depending on what they wish to accomplish and what man allows it could be good or really bad. Unaware humans can have beings sitting in on their consciousness and getting fed ideas and thoughts channeled by other entities. This can happen on smaller individual scales or on a collective massive scale. This I believe is part of the destruction foretold by many ancient spiritual Masters.
    Humans are going to be quite shocked when they find themselves not alone in this universe lol. Stay tuned...