Heavy Hitters Mafia D2

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@ILikePie5
Still want to lynch him
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@oromagi
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Still want to lynch him
Ya I agree. He doesn’t seem to be putting much effort I to his defense which is common for him when he’s scum.

I’ll give him a chance for defense tho 
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@Speedrace
"I think Oro is the doc, let's make him claim!"

no I was thinking more along the lines of BOMB. 
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@MisterChris
He already claimed vanilla I think. Let's move on . 
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oro: 3/5 (whiteflame, speed, bringer)
whiteflame: 1/5 (gp)

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About 45 hours till end of day
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I’ll give Oro till noon cst tomorrow
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@ILikePie5
I’ll give Oro till noon cst tomorrow
for what?
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@oromagi
for what?
To give a reason as to why we shouldn’t lynch you. You don’t seem to be trying which is your meta as scum.
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VTL Oro

I think he’s given up meaning we’re on track with the POE.
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Alright, I'm caught up again. With the vanilla claim and a known vanilla already in play, I'm inclined to stick with the lynch on Oro as well, since it smacks of an safe fake claim. The convoluted soft claim doesn't help his case since he could easily have decided on this route early on, and the fact that several people misinterpreted it could mean that he was always leaving the door open for alternative claims.
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oro: 4/5 (whiteflame, speed, bringer, pie)
whiteflame: 1/5 (gp)

If you believe I've made a mistake please let me know. About 36 hours till EOD.

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Going to look at oromagi's claim. He did say that the theme is vanilla centered in some ways, I would probably agree with him to a certain degree
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@Vader
Are you caught up reading the DP? 
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@Bringerofrain
I know oromagi claimed vanilla. I'm skeptical of that claim for many reasons 
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I am skeptical of oromagi's claim in general with vanilla. He also said that he believes that this game is vanilla centered, which is definitely a soft claim IMO. I wouldn't disagree with that claim, but I could see him using this to try to give himself some validation. Even so, why would he know that this game is vanilla centered in DP1?
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@Vader
I think this is overthinking. He would know it is vanilla centered based on Warren's message about vanillas in the op of dp1
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@Vader
He lied about being a cop. If you are saying he lied about also being vanilla, I think you already know the reasonable thing to do here. I actually feel sorry for oro because he is already acting like defeated scum and has to go through the motions while awaiting the inevitable. 
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@MisterChris
"I think Oro is the doc, let's make him claim!"
no I was thinking more along the lines of BOMB. 
The same logic still applies lol
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I might be down to lynch supa next DP
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@Speedrace
The same logic still applies lol

Not really. 

I wanted Oro to claim because if he didn't dare claim a defensive role for fear of a CC, that indicated him as scum. I want to hear Oro's defense though, hence me not hammering yet. 
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@MisterChris
He has gave his defense. You and supa will need to justify why you didn't hammer next DP. This is how defeated scum acts. 
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@Speedrace
Oh, and VEST/BP role or BOMB role is not valuable to the point we shouldn't pursue a claim from people who may have it. 

This is all moot now though. He's claimed vanilla and it reeks of a fake claim. 
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@Bringerofrain
He has gave his defense. You and supa will need to justify why you didn't hammer next DP. This is how defeated scum acts. 

Oro has been inactive for the past 7 hrs. 

But if you want me to hammer that badly I can. 
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@MisterChris
Yes. 

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I don't have patience and there is nothing oro can do that will change the inevitable even if town is by chance wrong (which I highly doubt)
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@warren42
OK fine.

VTL Oromagi.

I'm voting for the following reasons:
  • Oromagi has seemingly become defeatist. This plays to his scum meta, and if he isn't scum this lynch is his own fault for refusing to challenge the wagon.
  • Oromagi only tries to attract the NK when he has a role like VEST or BOMB. Oromagi instead claimed vanilla, which reeks of a fake claim.
  • Oromagi "tried to attract the NK" by soft claiming COP, which could have been a scum soft claim for him to use should no one else claim COP. 
  • We can afford a mislynch because of what I said in POST #102:
One more thing before I disappear for a while (got a scholarship meeting to attend), I agree with Bringer that we should lynch and use GP's vig role.

If Pie is lying and is scum, we avoid MYLO even if we mislynch because scum team would lose a member... If Pie is telling the truth, (and if Grey's role functions like I believe it does... that it works as a NK) we avoid MYLO even if we mislynch because we skip the NP.


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@Vader
Going to look at oromagi's claim. He did say that the theme is vanilla centered in some ways, I would probably agree with him to a certain degree
Well ya that’s pretty obvious based on what Warren said in the OP
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and now we wait....
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oro: 5/5 (whiteflame, speed, bringer, pie, Chris)
whiteflame: 1/5 (gp)

ORO WAS LYNCHED!
If you believe I've made a mistake please let me know.
If not I'll post the flip shortly.