I want to take you seriously, but you're essentially comparing Chauvin and multiple other officers kneeling on someone's neck/back for 9 minutes while they are laying handcuffed in the prone position with "lightly tapping my neck" which is pretty ridiculous, and I think you know that.
It's like when Nelson said to one of the pulmonologists, “I could be laying by the pool in Florida, on my stomach in the prone position” and then on redirect, the prosecution was like “You were asked a number of questions that were to the effect that if we take the police subdual, restraint, and neck compression out of this, what would you conclude Mr. Floyd to have been. Aren’t those questions a lot like asking, ‘Mrs. Lincoln, if we take John Wilkes Booth out of this...’ ” which of course the judge cut off for being argumentative, but the point was received.
What's curious to me though is why you would be willing to see any evidence I have, but have no problem disregarding the experts who've already testified that your belief (neck damage is required) is wrong? I'm not a doctor. I can certainly google examples where people have asphyxiated and no neck damage was shown, because strangulation is not the only way to asphyxiate. You can also suffocate, and that's what the doctors have testified happened to Floyd -- that a combination of him being handcuffed and in the prone position coupled with the weight of multiple officers for a prolonged period of time is what caused his death, in conjunction with his other health issues.
The defense hasn't given any indication that Floyd would have had a heart attack or overdosed had it not been specifically for the actions of the police. That's like saying if someone shot me, but I have asthma, that I COULD HAVE died from an asthma attack that just-so-happened to coincide with the exact same moment that I got shot. It's nonsensical. And this time I really believe the jury will see that. I'm shocked that Pie thinks this is a slam dunk case for the defense because it most certainly is not. I do think a murder charge is warranted, but I believe Chauvin would see jail time and not "walk" for manslaughter so that's better than nothing.
The female cop case is tragic. So was the split second Chicago shooting of that 13 year old kid, Adam Toledo. Have you heard about that? My wife and I were arguing last night cuz I said the cop did nothing wrong. She disagreed cuz she said he should have told the kid to get down on the ground rather than put his hands in the air, and concluded he should be fired but not criminally charged. I agree with that. But in this climate he probably will be criminally charged, and I think examples like that (along with Daunte Wright) with people protesting tragic mistakes might take away credibility from cases like George Floyd in which he was clearly murdered in an unnecessarily egregious manner. Like Derek Chauvin literally made the intentional and calculated decision to continue kneeling on Floyd's neck while he lay vulnerable and unconscious. That seems like a depraved mind to me.
