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Britain could have taken the world,
But they slacked.
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It bothers me at times, that I've not the qualities in me,
To attempt to live long beyond any previous human lifespan,
Also bothers me that people I meet in the everyday, have never had similar desires,
Though such people 'do exist,
So sayth the internet, I suppose.
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I suppose in fiction,
A ghost could be like a projection,
You know, like a regular one projecting light,
Or a hologram,

Course the brain isn't in the projection,
But there is 'still a cause, arguably a brain 'moving the projection, responding to what they see from the projector to the projection,
And arguably, 'maybe one could project light enough, that it has some solidity to it, could 'move objects?

Course even with all this, it's still a trick, perhaps?

. . .

I suppose a game could have rules,
When a character is injured thus,
He must act thus,
D&D and many other games, have crippled limbs, or altered states of mind,

“Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.”
― William Shakespeare, Macbeth

But I can't agree with such myself, that 'or his longer one,
Least my actions can't seem to.

“All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players;
They have their exits and their entrances,
And one man in his time plays many parts,
His acts being seven ages. At first, the infant,
Mewling and puking in the nurse's arms.
Then the whining schoolboy, with his satchel
And shining morning face, creeping like snail
Unwillingly to school. And then the lover,
Sighing like furnace, with a woeful ballad
Made to his mistress' eyebrow. Then a soldier,
Full of strange oaths and bearded like the pard,
Jealous in honor, sudden and quick in quarrel,
Seeking the bubble reputation
Even in the cannon's mouth. And then the justice,
In fair round belly with good capon lined,
With eyes severe and beard of formal cut,
Full of wise saws and modern instances;
And so he plays his part. The sixth age shifts
Into the lean and slippered pantaloon,
With spectacles on nose and pouch on side;
His youthful hose, well saved, a world too wide
For his shrunk shank, and his big manly voice,
Turning again toward childish treble, pipes
And whistles in his sound. Last scene of all,
That ends this strange eventful history,
Is second childishness and mere oblivion,
Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything.”
― William Shakespeare, As You Like It

The Ego rebels against such,
Though some people seem to play Call of Duty, with a fury,
Cursing and screaming, importance placed on kills and deaths virtual,

But this Earth,
I cannot live with such a belief of virtual,
Hm, I am rambling.
. . .
. . .

I don't much care for the controller idea,
Of body and mind,
Yet I can't account for the mind,
Though I suppose myself, it's all body,
Still I can't 'quite place the mind, consciousness, a person,
. . .
. . .
Though I don't say personhood and consciousness don't exist,
Will exists,
I'm aware of my leanings, aware of my thoughts, self, pains and pleasures. . .
Seemingly.

. . .
. . .
. .. 
What 'significance, or reality would be had,
In a fiction of existence, manipulated by a true intelligence?

No more blame, than a hammer moved over a nail,
Any blame to be placed beyond ken,

Though a character may end up in straights, suffer some karma,
They were moved there,
Controller is the one to answer,
But there is no controller that I perceive,
And question at times my own control, cause,
. . . .

. . . . . . 


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was this your RANDOM thought?

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A number of them, ja.
. . .

Though if you're 'bolding, random,
To imply not 'so random,
Well you're right enough,

But a 'bit offhand thoughts, perhaps.
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Britain could have taken the world,
But they slacked.
Because imperial expansion has already been outdated by 1900 as a lot of the land was owned by other capitalist powers like Britain instead of truly by the indigenous people.

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Indigenous people. . .

Ever it's been that way, since government insisted on it's taxes,
And 'that's been the way, a long time.

The citizen not having autonomy,
The city, the county, the state within a nation.

What difference be it, if the Southern Confederacy has not self rule,
Or the 13 Colonies have not self rule?
. , ,
Though 'representation would have been nice.

. . .

Perhaps one could not have known France would sell out it's holdings,
That other powers would pass away,
But if the Brits had kept to it like men,
They'd have all the North America,
They'd have Australia,
India,
And all the other various places.

Of course one of the ways I'd say they mucked it up,
Was by making the people of their expansions 2nd class,
Rather than equals, albeit equal under the Crown.

. . .

Look at China,
It's eager itself to place under it's wing, those it would,
Tibet, Taiwan, Hong Kong,
And even further back,
One has all the ancient dynasties, 'insisting to other nations, 'their way.

. . .

'Indigenous people. .
Well,
Even the people close to home, at times don't appreciate governments insistence,
Look at the Brits and the Irish.

. . .

Out'dated you say,
I'd say not myself,
If anything as technology advanced,
Was ever the time more ripe for one superpower to rise.

Disparity of power,
Ease of travel and communication.

Not that such would 'necessarily be moral, 'may'be.
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I haven't found meat alternatives very tasty thus far,
They seem a bit expensive at times,
I'm doubtful that they can replace meat's nutrition,
I also suspect many meat alternatives, often 'still come about from animal death and suffering, thus what the point.

I still eat meat.

Course I haven't researched much,
Or experimented much,
So, still early on.

. . .

Afterthought, poor suffering plants, 98% joke.
. .
Hm, also, even if meat alternatives 'did nicely replace meats,
What of rest of actions and behavior. products and support, that lead to animal consumption,
Animal glue, would be an example, assuming we still make glue from animals.
. . .

Hm, though as someone says in another thread, a decrease of severity of an action, is better than an increase of severity, even if the action still occurs.
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If you consider the processes involved.

Then everything is an internal projection or simulation of an assumed reality.


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How do you mean?

Do you mean individual humans,
Or existence as a whole?

@NoOneInParticular
I read a Jack London short story, last night.

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Yes,
We have senses,
Have intelligence and reason,
. . .
Though we sense, we may not be sensing everything,
But as it's what we have, we make sense of it,

Intelligence perhaps filling the gaps, for the unseen,
Until we test our theories, and by correlation, assume causation,
David Hume, Gottfried Leibniz,
Inductive inference. . . Deductive reasoning,
Hm, this isn't the right track,
Not the right words,
Least not the right order of words, not the right way of saying, thinking.
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@Lemming
We sense, light waves, sound waves, smells etc.

And we make an internal electro-chemical assessment,

Which we project or simulate internally as imagery.

Therefore we only assume that what we see is what we see/ hear/ smell etc.

Though our ability to manipulate does give weight to our assumptions.

But even then we are completely reliant upon internal imagery.

So if you read this post, you will not actually be viewing it on a computer screen, but as an internally projected/simulated image of a computer screen.


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I'd agree that the brain makes it's own sense of information sent to it,
There be people with brain issues, so that even though their eyes send X information, they only see Y,
I suppose such is happening even now, with no brain issues, as we'd usually call them.

People focus on this or that,
In the dark of night, brain fear high, creates monsters for children, at times.

@Below is Discarded first reply, but not Deleted.
Ah, you're saying my 'brain is not sensing your post #611,
My eyes are, and are sending that information to my brain,
Where internal whatnot puts it together to be viewed?

Hm, that the eyes are not windows through which the soul peers,
But messengers to and from the soul, er, I mean brain?

Eyes windows to the soul, usually talking about how a person's expression can at times show inner thoughts and emotions,
Like smiling without one's eye muscles, showing at times a false expression.

. . .

Hm, 'I,
I've said in the past, a hand is not 'Me, though in some uses of the word it is,
So an 'Eye, need not be 'Me either,
But then I've a difficulty accounting 'for Me.
. . .
I've difficulty, finding the right words,
A lobotomy of the brain, a surgery of the hand,
Though ghost pains exist. . .

Hm,
A metal coin,
Get's hit with a hammer, bent in shape,
When it's structure changed,
 No, that's a wrong phrasing,

You've a practical point, zedvictor4,
But it 'feels practical according to a certain view,
But I can't put together the other view in my head,
Can't describe it, not that it's there,
It feels like two different coding languages, not meshing, if I try to pick out a piece of one and place it in the other processing language, it doesn't work anymore.

The problem of metaphors perhaps,
Often practical, but not 'true description.
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Yep, I've go a client who lost a leg and he suffers from an itchy foot.

How weird is that?
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Pretty weird,
But it seems reasonable,

One's brain has all those connections and functions in it still,
Similar if one's keyboard or mouse breaks, their computer still has the drivers for those devices.

'Must be a strange experience though.
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Yep, nothing to scratch.

Has meds for it when it gets unbearable.


And yep, computer and brain have a lot in common.

Brain is a computer I suppose, with attachments

Albeit an organic computer, with organic attachments.


How long before we add inorganic attachments to the organic computer?

Maybe we already have peripheral attachments/devices that influence us more than we realise.

So how long before theses become installed into the mainframe?

Not long me thinks.


Off to bed.

Night Night sleep tight.

Don't have nightmares.
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Scientists Control Mouse Brain By Remote Control
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Does Joe Biden remember what he had for breakfast?

Why does Frederick Douglass not have a portrait hut Nancy Pelosi does?

Why do we park on driveways and drive on parkways?

Was Sheldon Adelton or George Soros the bigger threat to American democracy?

Is Russia really influencing our elections all that much or is it really the CIA?

Why don't most Americans care about issues but all gush over some celebrity doing something stupid?
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Maybe he preferred photos,
Due to the time and culture.

“Negroes can never have impartial portraits at the hands of white artists. It seems to us next to impossible for white men to take likenesses of black men, without most grossly exaggerating their distinctive features.” - Frederick Douglass 

Also  Nancy Pelosi's portrait was for her position in government or something, I think.

. . .

Hm, I see in reading a different article she had four Speakers portraits removed, as they also served in the Confederacy,
Bah I say,
Bet she'd like to Stalin airbrush old photos as well.
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Gushing people make celebrities.

Without gushers, celebs wouldn't be celebs.

Sycophancy is an inbuilt human trait.
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Think about this:

We are all actually in Area 51, and Area 51 is the way out.
Thats why no one is allowed in there. 
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Personally, I just have difficulty thinking that BrotherD.Thomas is 'not a troll,
Who disrupts the religious section and plays the character of a caricature of a Christian.

Of course people 'do exist in life, zealous or ill,
Who might talk as he does,
Which has me hesitate a bit in my placing of him in definitions.

Stephen, I see as an unintentional troll, who simply hates religion,
And lacks either the inclination or intelligence to converse normally, on the point of religion.


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What is meant by civilization?
Or to be civilized?

One could define it as adherence to one's own group's values,
And view other groups values as uncivilized.

Alternatively having 'any values, would be to be civilized.

How 'large one's homogenous language and values group is.

How deadly one's group is per individual,
Or how deadly weapons are,
Or tools.

Though weapons and tools can be. . Environmental, declaring their deadliness or use.

A shining city surrounded by savages,
Or a uncivilized speck, blighting a great people.

How one turns one's head.
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I broke my wrist last week, and found myself telling my friends about it. I realized that if I never broke my wrist, my friends and I would probably be doing the same exact thing except talking about something else.

I also had a friend in preschool who left before kindergarten started. If he never left, I probably would not be friends with the ones I have now.
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Two glasses, half full, it sounds.
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Is there something wrong, with anything?
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White people should not buy melatonin from the vitamin section anymore because it is cultural appropriation 
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I might rather hear Atheists talk about their beliefs, reasons, intents, and actions,
Than hear them say over and over how much they hate religion.

Even if it has been commercialized by many,
Christmas plays a large role in American society,
Yet some Atheists insist, that God had no place in the heart of Americans,
No influence in our laws or culture.

  • According to later accounts, the first White House Christmas party was held in December 1800. President John Adams and First Lady Abigail Adams held it for their four-year-old granddaughter Susanna Boylston Adams, who was living with them. They invited government officials and their children to the party.


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Cannibalism seems like it'd be a large boon to armies.
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I wonder what the cheapest way to purchase and enjoy sweets, would be.
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People don't always 'see the effect of their arguments on other people,
But it seems likely to me, effects often occur,
Even without the person saying it, confirming it,
Easy possible,
They looked at your sources,
Googled your claims,
Read Reddit this, Reddit that of the idea,
Thought, considered, pondered.

Just because they still disagree,
Doesn't mean one's words had no influence,
People don't always give agreeable feedback,
Don't always change instantly.

Though some people might not have considered or be swayed at all,
Well, I'm not psychic,
Though people responses can give weight to theories on their minds,
Well, I'm not psychic.