I'm a Rubio fan. I agree with a majority of his policy besides his marijuana beliefs, but most if not all of his policy not only matches my beliefs, but a lot of the countries. He came from a hard working family from Cuba fleeing communism so he knows the dangers it poses. His stances on regulations and other issues resignate with my belief
If had to choose between letting one become president who would choose?
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@oromagi
Blame liberals for why you didn't have the right right together married. Conservatives pushed for the rights and because it had the word civil union rather than marriage, but with all the same exact rights attached, democrats repeatedly voted against it. Also you know you could have joined the military. They never gave a shit. You just go for a couple of years and don't talk about your sex life. It's what most straight men do anyway.
Also joining would have made you a traitor to the country, so you got lucky there. I almost fucked up and joined myself, but the high advanced score meant I would end up in intelligence, and the stuff you have to do to get security clearance is annoying, so I decided not to.
We both got lucky
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@Wylted
I almost fucked up and joined myself, but the high advanced score meant I would end up in intelligence
High advance score? It must not be that high cause I got 'intelligence' as well. XD
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@SkepticalOne
No, not everybody qualifies. It's high. Which doesn't surprise me, you are a smart guy
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@Wylted
Did you ever say who you would like to see as president? You want someone uncompromising...who might that be?
I have no strong opinion. Although I agree with Oromagi on compromise. I think we have too many representatives who refuse to compromise over stupid things.
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@SkepticalOne
I think all people would fail my litmus test. My top picks right now would be zolton von istvan and kanye west.
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@Wylted
@oromagiBlame liberals for why you didn't have the right right together married. Conservatives pushed for the rights and because it had the word civil union rather than marriage, but with all the same exact rights attached, democrats repeatedly voted against it.
Only Republicans are capable of believing such Orwellian doublethink. The Republican Party popularly tried to amend the US Constitution to define as a union of one man and one woman on seven different occasions since 2000.
Also you know you could have joined the military. They never gave a shit. You just go for a couple of years and don't talk about your sex life. It's what most straight men do anyway.
Also doublethink bullshit. Even after the "Don't ask, don't tell" the number of queers who were hounded about their personal lives was so much of a problem that the rule had to be changed to "Don't ask, don't tell, don't pursue, don't harass" and even so thousands of lives every year were getting fucked over by section 8 dishonorable discharges and denial of all benefits as a thank you for your service. The harassments didn't end until 9/11. As soon as troops started going to Afghanistan, so many straight men were going gay to get discharged that commanders had to shut the whole thing down.
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@Wylted
->@SkepticalOneI think all people would fail my litmus test. My top picks right now would be zolton von istvan and kanye west.
Istvan has a chip implanted in his hand and consulted with the U.S. Navy about the use implants in humans.
Istvan identifies himself as transhumanist and ran for President for the Transhumanist party.
According to Istvan the three laws of Transhumanism are:
- A transhumanist must safeguard one's own existence above all else.
- A transhumanist must strive to achieve omnipotence as expediently as possible—so long as one's actions do not conflict with the First Law.
- A transhumanist must safeguard value in the universe—so long as one's actions do not conflict with the First and Second Laws.
Let's note that no humans must be safeguarded except oneself. Other humans are less of a priority than one's own omnipotence. Great.
Kim Kardashian on Kanye West last July:
"As many of you know, Kanye has bi-polar disorder. Anyone who has this or has a loved one in their life who does, knows how incredibly complicated and painful it is to understand, I've never spoken publicly about how this has affected us at home because I am very protective of our children and Kanye's right to privacy when it comes to his health. But today, I feel like I should comment on it because off the stigma and misconceptions about mental health. I understand Kanye is subject to criticism because he is a public figure and his actions at times can cause strong opinions and emotions. He is a brilliant but complicated person who on top of the pressures of being an artist and a black man, who experienced the painful loss of his mother, and has to deal with the pressure and isolation that is heightened by his bi-polar disorder. Those who are close with Kanye know his heart and understand his words some times do not align with his intentions."
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@oromagi
Yes, Kim called kanye brilliant. Also go talk to M itsvan, he is a cool guy. One of the few presidential candidates willing to talk to me man to man
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@Wylted
-->@oromagiYes, Kim called kanye brilliant.
Hitler was brilliant. George Washington was not. Brilliant is not a necessary or even preferable recommendation for president.
Also go talk to M itsvan, he is a cool guy.
Cool is definitely not a good recommendation for president. I don't need my presidents trying to be cool.
One of the few presidential candidates willing to talk to me man to man
Not a recommendation.
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@drlebronski
Condoleezza Rice.
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@oromagi
Cool is definitely not a good recommendation for president. I don't need my presidents trying to be cool.
Yes, you prefer them senile
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@Wylted
"We should conpromise"Absolutely not, it is disgusting.
So rather than getting half of what you want you prefer nothing?
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@Lemming
I'm a fan of Condoleezza Rice. I argued last summer that if Biden concluded that he must have a black woman VP, Rice would have had more executive experience and brought in more of the center vote. I doubt she would have accepted and I don't think she has any presidential ambitions but I would rather see Rice as president than a whole lot of more liberal candidates.
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@oromagi
Honestly, the topic had me stumped for a bit, as I'm not very familiar with politicians, until they come the forefront.
I suppose Ron Paul, wouldn't have been bad, though he's 88 years old now, not that age automatically disqualifies someone, but at a certain point, it becomes a negative factor to consider.
I'm not wild about his son.
Mitt Romney and Andrew Yang, wouldn't be bad, 'maybe.
Though I'm not 'sure about Yang's experience, or platform.
Romney though, has earned some credit with neutrals in his disagreement with the Trump pandering, if only the Republicans would make use of that.
Bernie, could have done a better job in how he sold himself, presented his views.
I didn't think he was a Communist, but his Democratic Socialist label, just rolled off the mind poorly.
Condoleezza Rice,
Though I didn't much like the George Bush presidency, she seemed capable in her job, diplomatic with people.
Hasn't had 'much criticism that I've heard.
And I 'do like candidates that have familiarity with the office of the presidency.
I liked Hillary Clintons familiarity with the office, as well.
Though I suppose some people's support of Trump came from his 'unfamiliarity.
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@Double_R
So rather than getting half of what you want you prefer nothing?
Usually compromise works like this.
A. If you give me $100 I will not break your leg
B. What if I give you 50
A. Thanks for being willing to compromise I will only injure your leg and take 50 now
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@Wylted
Sounds like you are a terrible negotiator
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@drlebronski
Some names Id be pretty happy with: Rand Paul, Ron Paul, Ben Shapiro, Mike Huckabee, Nikki Haley.
and my preferences between them are listed in that same order.
If I could create the perfect politician though, Id create a fusion between Rand Paul, Shapiro, and Huckabee. I'd take Paul's Integrity and backbone, Shapiro's sharp mind, and Huckabee's religious and compassionate heart. A perfect trinity of the heart, mind and soul of conservative politics. Someone whose pragmatic, wise, and just. A politician who could equally appeal through Pathos, Logos and....I guess Pneumos would be what you would call the third thing to complete that triangle.
But that doesn't exist and honestly if its not possible for any of these guys to win anyway they would be better off turning their resources to make an impact where they are at.
LOL
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@Marauder
Oh, Ben Shapiro's old enough now. 37years old, minimum 35years old.
Probably not electable though, I'd think, for various reasons, even if he managed to get a party nomination.
Ben Shapiro is an angry baby of a man.
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@badger
Eh, he talks a bit fast, seems a staunch Republican, likely is biased about Israel, but everyone has biases, I'm not sure he'd be enough of a 'people person to appeal to the other side, or Americans during crisis very well.
Does seem intelligent, though I'm not sure how wise he is.
I've not viewed much of him myself, more often I hear him mentioned by others.
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@Lemming
Donald Trump is not a people person, but he's made a career out of turning that part of himself into something charismatic. Shapiro likewise has gotten to be the voice of the right wing knowing how to use his skills for his own kind of charisma.
Shapiro would be electable. Some antisemetics would oppose him but their not very dominant in the party.
In the primary anyway, I'm not as sure about the general.
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@Marauder
I don't recall Trump ever using compromise, or friendly interactions with the Democrats, during his term.
Though I can agree that Trump did/does have a following.
Maybe, I'm missing interactions of his though.
Something I liked about Abraham Lincoln, was his ability to work 'with his Team of Rivals. Though maybe they being involved together, in Civil War, helped unity.
Part of Trumps charisma 'is his disregard of political correctness, and alienation of the media.
Bit of a glass cannon strategy though, and not even 'much of a cannon. As any mistake is magnified.
Likely you're right about Shapiro though, that he has his 'own form of charisma, appeal.
Ben Shapiro seems like a very intelligent person mainly because of how fast he talks but when you really look into what he says its pretty ignorant. One time he made an argument about climate change destroying poor areas and people. his argument was they can just sell their houses and move. he also stated himself that palestinians are monsters.
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@drlebronski
Not saying he didn't say that, or even implying he didn't say that, as I don't know. But I 'do like references to sources.
When someone makes a lot of arguments though, individual one's don't seem as bad, percentage wise.
Plus I'd imagine he could be convinced that some of his views are wrong, assuming he's changed his views over time.
I suppose for natural disasters, and localized climate change.
It would be good if government, or preferably a nonprofit organization 'not funded by the government, existed to help people during such trying times. Whether to help them settle back in, rebuild, 'or move, find somewhere to live, or a job.
Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) Already exists I suppose, but I don't know much about the subject.
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Why would Wylted not pay the 50 though, maybe I'm missing something about his isolated analogy.
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@Vader
Little Marco was a believer in amnesty along with the likes of the Jeff Flake and John McCain
How is there any real choice here besides Joe Biden? (except how could he "become" President if he already is that)There would have to be a very compelling reason for me to overrule the electorate (e.g. people voted in the next Hitler). I don't see one.