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@zedvictor4
I based my opinion of Trump on Trump.And I base my opinion of Biden on Biden.
They remain opinions. But you are liberal, and thus confuse your opinion with fact. Carry on.
Biden: total failure
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It's ironic how Dems cried about executive orders being phony yet rule by executive orders
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@ethang5
Barbed wire around the Capitol months after the inaugaration. Press conferences with no questions. A president suffering from dementia. High food and fuel prices. Dumb foreign policies. An out of control southern border. Collusion with big tech against the American people. Spending America's money on foreigners first. Political prisoners. A blindingly stupid 3 trillion dollar spending package.
Ended the 20 year war in Afghanistan that preceding presidents failed to do. Oversaw revolutionary bipartisan spending package to improve American infrastructure. Enacted effective delivery of vaccines and economic relief packages to stem impacts of Covid-19 pandemic and improve American quality of life.
No new wars started. First president to meet NK's leader and get him to stop long range missile launches. Highest employment rates for women and minorities. A secure southern border. Brokering a peace deal with Israel and 5 Arab countries. Enforcing the country's laws on immigration and religious rights. Making European nation's pay their fair share for their defense. Renegotiating better trade deals with Mexico and Canada. A sound and growing economy.
Damaged relationships with allied nations. Gave concessions to many foreign nations traditionally regarded as adversaries. Raised the debt of the nation significantly by cutting taxes for the wealthy. Embroiled himself and his staff in scandal, including multiple criminal convictions of associates. Perpetuated unsubstantiated theories and distributed misinformation across the nation, leading to American deaths.
All presidents have their good and bad. Cherry picking only the good and only the bad is trivial.
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@ethang5
Ask Biden. He said only dictators rule by EO. Dictators are bad.
This is what having no argument to back up your nonsense looks like. This back and forth started with you pretending Biden was worse than Trump because he used so many executive orders, now when asked whether executive orders are a bad thing you start talking about hypocrisy. Just admit that you don’t give a rats ass about executive orders and your first point was moot.
Would you like the link to the video of Biden spokewoman admitting that the Biden administration was secretly colluding with big tech to censor citizens?
Working with tech companies to point out misinformation that is literally killing people so those tech companies can make *their own decision* to remove it is not “secretly colluding to censor our citizens”. Why is that so difficult for you?
Does this address my point? Americans died because of the leftist idiot in the White House.
Name one president whose decisions resulted in 0 American deaths.
Is breaking and entering, vandalism, trespassing, beating police officers, and stopping the certification of a presidential election included in that right to “peacefully” protest?If you're Antifa/BLM, even adding assault, burning federal buildings and police stations, looting and vandalism are included in that right to “peacefully” protest.
Ethang, you are the one who claimed the 600 people who are being prosecuted in their role for the Capitol attacks were just “peacefully protesting”. Do you have a response to my point other than “but BLM”?
38 people shot in Chicago is because Fox news.The highest number of illegals caught crossing the border is because Fox news.13 Americans dead in Afghanistan is, you guessed it. Fox news.
Literally all of this was happening while Trump was president. Fox News didn’t cause any of it, they’re just the ones telling you when to be outraged by it. Hint: be outraged when a democrat is in charge, when a republican is in charge talk about how great America is. Wash rinse repeat. It’s fake outrage.
Your man is a failure. Trying to argue otherwise just makes you look pathetic.
Says the guy who emphatically supports Donald Trump, a man so stupid he thinks it would be a good idea to drop a nuclear bomb inside a hurricane, or that the solution to California’s wildfire problem is a rake, or that we should try injecting disinfectant to fight Covid. Ok bro.
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@ethang5
...start by explaining what you think a failed presidency looks like in the first place...Barbed wire around the Capitol months after the inaugaration. Press conferences with no questions. A president suffering from dementia. High food and fuel prices. Dumb foreign policies. An out of control southern border. Collusion with big tech against the American people. Spending America's money on foreigners first. Political prisoners. A blindingly stupid 3 trillion dollar spending package....and how the previous 4 years does not qualify.No new wars started. First president to meet NK's leader and get him to stop long range missile launches. Highest employment rates for women and minorities. A secure southern border. Brokering a peace deal with Israel and 5 Arab countries. Enforcing the country's laws on immigration and religious rights. Making European nation's pay their fair share for their defense. Renegotiating better trade deals with Mexico and Canada. A sound and growing economy.
I give you the award for the most efficient cramming of meaningless right wing epithets in one post I’ve seen here in DART. That’s something I’m normally used to only seeing on Twitter.
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@Vader
It's ironic how Dems cried about executive orders being phony yet rule by executive orders
I don’t recall any Democrats claiming executive orders were phony. Would you care to enlighten us a to when this happened?
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@ethang5
Does this address my point? Americans died because of the leftist idiot in the White House.
joe biden is most certainly not a "leftist" he's a liberal conservatives like you think that
liberal=communism
liberal=leftism
liberal=socialism
when in reality you don't have the faintest idea of what "leftism" is.
Fox News and Rush Limbaugh really screwed with conservatives brain function
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@949havoc
Does he forget that just two weeks ago - Aug 16 - DOS told Americans in Afghanistan wanting to get out to "shelter in place,"
My initial thoughts were that the stupid asses who stayed there despite knowing that american withdrawal was imminent, were knowingly putting themselves in harms way and reaped what they sowed, but if the above statement is true, than this withdrawal was extremely fucked up. I still wouldn't blame biden. He has dementia. I am sure non dementia biden would have made better decisions
Not his fault the people close to him, were willing g to commit elder abuse, so they could sit in the halls of power and help rule over america.
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@drlebronski
joe biden is most certainly not a "leftist" he's a liberal conservatives like you think thatliberal=communismliberal=leftismliberal=socialism
Liberalism used to be distinct from leftist, but seeing how they were cheering on the BLM riots and excusing the violence, instead of saying things like "hey guys, maybe we don't do violent things, and maybe we don't completely eliminate paying police officers", they kneeled to BLM.
We also know about how the slippery slope will lead liberals to totalitarian socialism, as it always does.
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@dustryder
All presidents have their good and bad. Cherry picking only the good and only the bad is trivial.
Nonsense. The vaccines was Trump. Leaving Afghanistan was Trump. Gender studies in Pakistan is not infrastructure. All the rest of your points are either subjective liberal pablum or outright lies.
The better economy is objective. No new wars is objective. Lower unemployment numbers is objective. No missile violations in North Korea is objective. Peace in the Middle East is objective. Fewer illegals at our borders is objective. Less crime is objective.
I will not play partisan politics at the expense of my country.
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@Wylted
liberalism is very distinct from leftism kneeling to BLM is not leftist though a lot of BLM protestors are leftist.
also 93% of blm protest were peaceful.
Biden has said multiple times he is not a socialist he does not want to defund the police.
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@ethang5
Nonsense. The vaccines was Trump
incorrrrrret
Not so much. Pfizer notably did not accept government money to develop, test or expand manufacturing capacity under Trump’s Operation Warp Speed initiative to quickly find a vaccine and treatments for the disease sweeping the country.
In fact, Pfizer partnered with the vaccine’s original developer, Germany’s BioNTech, in March and the following month announced the first human study in Germany. The White House announced Operation Warp Speed in May.
Leaving Afghanistan was Trump.
yet your always complaining at biden for taking the troops from afghanistan..........curious?
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@ethang5
@dustryder
you also ignored 90% of dustyriders argument
Barbed wire around the Capitol months after the inaugaration. Press conferences with no questions. A president suffering from dementia. High food and fuel prices. Dumb foreign policies. An out of control southern border. Collusion with big tech against the American people. Spending America's money on foreigners first. Political prisoners. A blindingly stupid 3 trillion dollar spending package.Ended the 20 year war in Afghanistan that preceding presidents failed to do. Oversaw revolutionary bipartisan spending package to improve American infrastructure. Enacted effective delivery of vaccines and economic relief packages to stem impacts of Covid-19 pandemic and improve American quality of life.No new wars started. First president to meet NK's leader and get him to stop long range missile launches. Highest employment rates for women and minorities. A secure southern border. Brokering a peace deal with Israel and 5 Arab countries. Enforcing the country's laws on immigration and religious rights. Making European nation's pay their fair share for their defense. Renegotiating better trade deals with Mexico and Canada. A sound and growing economy.Damaged relationships with allied nations. Gave concessions to many foreign nations traditionally regarded as adversaries. Raised the debt of the nation significantly by cutting taxes for the wealthy. Embroiled himself and his staff in scandal, including multiple criminal convictions of associates. Perpetuated unsubstantiated theories and distributed misinformation across the nation, leading to American deaths.All presidents have their good and bad. Cherry picking only the good and only the bad is trivial.
also no new wars started is a terrible defense. but ok.
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@drlebronski
liberalism is very distinct from leftism kneeling to BLM is not leftist though a lot of BLM protestors are leftist.also 93% of blm protest were peaceful.
Not the ones I saw. You literally had reporters standing in front of burning buildings with people rioting behind them and saying the tag line "mostly peaceful" protest.
Or are you claiming the 93% of non violent people at them who knowingly showed up giving rioters easy cover, are somehow peaceful because they only showed up to give cover?
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@Double_R
Just admit that you don’t give a rats ass about executive orders...
Stop being stupid. I care about an idiot who condemns Trump for issuing EO's and then issuing more when he takes office. Biden is the one who said EO are used by dictators. By his own standard, he is a dictator.
Working with tech companies to point out misinformation that is literally killing people so those tech companies can make *their own decision* to remove it is not “secretly colluding to censor our citizens”. Why is that so difficult for you?
Every two-bit dictator can rationalize his governments oppression with smarmy semantics.
Ethang, you are the one who claimed the 600 people who are being prosecuted in their role for the Capitol attacks were just “peacefully protesting”. Do you have a response to my point other than “but BLM”?
You have no point. They are being persecuted with no due process, no charges, and no speedy trials. They are political prisoners.
Fox News didn’t cause any of it,...
Yet you and every liberal here has managed to cough up the leftie standard, "Fox News".
Says the guy who emphatically supports Donald Trump, a man so stupid he thinks it would be a good idea to drop a nuclear bomb inside a hurricane, or that the solution to California’s wildfire problem is a rake, or that we should try injecting disinfectant to fight Covid. Ok bro.
Every point here proves how brainwashed you are by the MSM. Worse, it's whataboutism. You have to spin a lie to claim Trump said those things, Biden is an incoherent idiot and no "interpretation" is needed to demonstrate he's a senile fool.
I give you the award for the most efficient cramming of meaningless right wing epithets in one post I’ve seen here in DART. That’s something I’m normally used to only seeing on Twitter.
You could have said, "I have nothing" and saved yourself some time and face.
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@Wylted
Not the ones I saw. You literally had reporters standing in front of burning buildings with people rioting behind them and saying the tag line "mostly peaceful" protest.
lol i dont care about the ones you saw on the news please provide the news reporting where they said mostly peaceful in front of a burning building.
Or are you claiming the 93% of non violent people at them who knowingly showed up giving rioters easy cover, are somehow peaceful because they only showed up to give cover?
wtf are you talking about?
you cant give easy cover for a riot enough with your bs conspiracies
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@drlebronski
Yet another leftist dragging out the "Fox News" mantra and pretending they know what others are thinking.
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@ethang5
You have to spin a lie to claim Trump said those things,
none of those are lies
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@ethang5
you addressed absolutely 0 of my points
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@drlebronski
Nonsense. The vaccines was Trump
incorrrrrret. Not so much. Pfizer notably did not accept government money to develop...
Trump took away the FDA's red tape that would have slowed down the delivery of vaccines.
Leaving Afghanistan was Trump.
yet your always complaining at biden for taking the troops from afghanistan..........curious?
I'm complaining that Biden removed the troops as if he were brain dead.
...also no new wars started is a terrible defense. but ok.
Defense of what? Do you like wars? Libtards screamed that Trump would start wars. Instead, he got 5, count them, 5 Arab countries to sign peace agreements with Israel. They are opening embassies. He got North Korea to the negotiating table and to quit violating UN sanctions against long range missile launches.
Now, North Korea refuses to speak to Biden, calling him an idiot. The Taliban dismisses Biden as feckless, and the EU is alarmed and disappointed at Biden's policies (their words).
But we'll note you as being pro-war.
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@drlebronski
...none of those are lies
The dishonest spin put on Trump's comments ARE lies. And please don't offer CNN or the BBC as evidence of truthful reporting.
The BBC is currently fighting a "Defund the BBC" movement and CNN's ratings are in the crapper. Both specialize in fake news leftist spin that you guy slurp up like kool-aid.
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@ethang5
ahh i expected that.
Call anything reporting on trump "leftist fake news".
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@drlebronski
Not "anything". Just The fake news media.
Trump said proper forest management would reduce the risk of fires. Your fake news fooled you into a simplistic "rake" narrative.
Trump wondered if a powerful enough force could disrupt a hurricane from forming. Your fake news fooled you into a simplistic "nuke a storm" narrative.
Trump wondered aloud if medical researchers could find something safe for ingestion that could work like bleach, killing the virus. Your fake news fooled you into a simplistic "drink bleach" narrative.
Why do you think hardly anyone trusts the MSM anymore? Well, hardly anyone other than TDS sufferers.
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@ethang5
Not "anything". Just The fake news media.
ok so anything thats not right wing i got it.
Trump said proper forest management would reduce the risk of fires. Your fake news fooled you into a simplistic "rake" narrative.
proper forest management???
He literally said rake.
Trump wondered if a powerful enough force could disrupt a hurricane from forming. Your fake news fooled you into a simplistic "nuke a storm" narrative.
that powerful force being a nuke dumbass
Trump wondered aloud if medical researchers could find something safe for ingestion that could work like bleach, killing the virus. Your fake news fooled you into a simplistic "drink bleach" narrative.
"And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning?
you have just made everything he has said super vague so it doesnt seem like he said it
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@drlebronski
ok so anything thats not right wing i got it.
Gaslighting yourself is impressive.
He literally said rake.
Proper forest management includes taking up dead underbrush to reduce fuel for fires. You bought the childish spin the BBC and CNN fed to you.
that powerful force being a nuke dumbass
As powerful as a nuke. Hurricanes are huge. CNN and the BBC fed you "nukes!" And you went into liberal hysterics.
you have just made everything he has said super vague so it doesnt seem like he said it
He said it. It's your hysterical, infantile spin on what he said that I have the problem with.
Joe Biden: On COVID-19, Donald Trump said that “maybe if you drank bleach you may be okay.”
PolitiFact’s ruling: Mostly False.
Here’s why: Joe Biden criticized President Donald Trump’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic, saying during a speech on the economy that Trump had given up trying to manage a crisis he’s ill equipped to solve.
"And when it comes to COVID-19, after months of doing nothing, other than predicting the virus would disappear, or maybe if you drank bleach you may be okay, Trump has simply given up," said Biden, who delivered his remarks at a metalworks factory near his hometown of Scranton on Thursday.
Trump spoke about the role he thought disinfectants could play in tackling an infection caused by the virus during a now infamous April 23 briefing. But he didn’t say people should drink bleach.
His comments came after William Bryan, the undersecretary for science and technology at the Department of Homeland Security, presented a study that found sun exposure and cleaning agents like bleach can kill the virus when it lingers on surfaces.
Trump remarked on the effectiveness of those methods and wondered if they could help address infections in the human body.
Here are his full comments:
"A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?"
He continued.
"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."
Later, Trump clarified his comments after a reporter asked Bryan whether disinfectants could actually be injected into COVID-19 patients.
"It wouldn’t be through injections, almost a cleaning and sterilization of an area. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t work, but it certainly has a big effect if it’s on a stationary object."
Trump did not explicitly recommend ingesting a disinfectant like bleach. Nevertheless, his remarks led some companies and state agencies to issue warnings about ingesting disinfectants. The maker of Lysol said in a statement that "under no circumstance" should its products be used in the human body.
The Biden campaign did not respond to a request for comment about what evidence the former vice president relied on when he claimed the president suggested Americans drink bleach to combat the virus.
Our ruling
Biden said Trump said drinking bleach could help fight the coronavirus. Trump did not specifically recommend ingesting disinfectants, but he did express interest in exploring whether disinfectants could be applied to the site of a coronavirus infection inside the body, such as the lungs. We rate Biden’s claim Mostly False.
You have been victimized by the fake new media. Your TDS made you swallow it without critical thought.
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@ethang5
The vaccines was Trump. Leaving Afghanistan was Trump.
Could you expand on these assertions further?
According to this link, https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations only 16.5 million vaccine doses had been administered by the time Trump left office. Since a grand total of 370 million have been administered now, that leaves 353.5 million vaccines that you have attributed to Trump, despite him being out of office in that period.
And of course, according to Wikipedia, the end of the Afghanistan War occurred on the 15th of August, 2021. This is again a period where Trump was out of office.
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@ethang5
Russia, with the U.S. and other allied assistance eventually wore the Germans into the ground.
And the nuclear bomb won in Japan.
And in Vietnam the U.S. got it's arse kicked by a raggle taggle bunch of commies
And in Korea the U.S. did half a job.
And in Iraq, Syria et al, the U.S. and it's lackies (sadly the British amongst them) left another enduring mess.
And in Afghanistan the U.S. again typically ran out of the will to achieve anything meaningful.
Just enforces the fact that military might is worthless, especially if you don't have the stomach to back it up.
In my opinion.
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@ethang5
I care about an idiot who condemns Trump for issuing EO's and then issuing more when he takes office. Biden is the one who said EO are used by dictators. By his own standard, he is a dictator.
In other words, no you don’t actually care about how many executive orders Biden has issued as you originally tried to argue. Thank you for making that clear.
So your real concern is hypocrisy. Ok. Well since you care so much about hypocrisy, please tell me your opinion on Trump declaring that he would eliminate the national debt in 8 years, only to turn right around and take a $585B deficit and take it over $1T by 2020 (before the factoring COVID). Looking forward to hearing it.
Every two-bit dictator can rationalize his governments oppression with smarmy semantics.
Just as every partisan hack can use semantics to pretend their political opposition is so terrible when all they’re doing is governing.
You have no point. They are being persecuted with no due process, no charges, and no speedy trials. They are political prisoners.
They have lawyers representing them in federal courts around the country. No due process? No charges? WTF are you talking about?
Every point here proves how brainwashed you are by the MSM. Worse, it's whataboutism. You have to spin a lie to claim Trump said those things, Biden is an incoherent idiot and no "interpretation" is needed to demonstrate he's a senile fool.
Trump literally said those things out loud and on tape. The entire footage of the entire conversations are readily available for anyone who cares to watch them. Claiming that this is “proof” of being brainwashed by the MSM is just plain stupid. Or more likely, it’s projection. You have nothing in depth to say, all you present are talking points the right loves to throw around completely void of any thoughtful rational backing, so this is clearly how you form your opinions.
What makes the comparison clear is that all you need to paint Donald Trump as incoherent is to watch him speak. The man has a third grade vocabulary, repeats himself constantly, frequently changes the subject mid thought, and never has anything deep or thoughtful to say. But making Biden seem incoherent requires a super cut of all his greatest gaffes. There’s no comparison there, unless all you ever watch are the super cuts which goes to show why you think I’m the one being manipulated. Again, it’s projection.
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@zedvictor4
Thank you for affirming my point.
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@dustryder
The vaccines was Trump. Leaving Afghanistan was Trump.
Could you expand on these assertions further?
Sure. Trump initiated the production of vaccines, and cleared away FDA red tape that would take years to approve a vaccine.
Idiot Democrats insisted that a vaccine could never be brought in time. They were wrong. Operation warp speed was all Trump.
Trump announced that we would be leaving Afghanistan. He even set the leave date. In fact, Trump vowed as a candidate to end silly wars.
The idiot move of asking the military leave before civilians and not securing military equipment was all Biden.
Links are not necessary when you have logic. But they sure do impress your clique, don't they?