Donald Trump vs Eminem

Damn, you said the n word.  It's funny.

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I don't understand why people living in shithole ghettos would get the N word pass and not billionaires, unless your implying that black people are inheritely poor.

That is what was true when the term was used abusively in its origin and that is the connotation.

Eminem has suffered as they have, economically speaking and has been a true part of black culture via hiphop.

Nigger like so many words has it's origins in the Latin language.

Therefore in it's "origin" was never abusive.

It is more likely therefore that it was originally regarded as an abusive term, rather than intended as an abusive term.

The origins of all guilty humans of rape is further up their family tree at some point an innocent human who didnt rape.

Je ne comprends pas.

Digging into innocent origins has fuck all to do with the actual act or usage of the thing as we know and recognise it.

The first time 'n****r' was used properly in the context of our language, and for thousands upon millions of times after that, it was used to degrade, humiliate and abuse black people who at the time were first enslaved and later were poor and oppressed regardless of their superficial freedom from bondage.

You could essentially think of the entire thing as bdsm without the sex and with absolutely 0 consent in a very verbal-degrading kink like way where in the current situation the only time blacks even somewhat consent to it is when other black people use it without hard R and definitely no racist intent behind the term.

If that is too hard to understand, then you're not fit to be debating context.

Well, some would say improperly.

Odd that you should refer to it as proper use.

You spoke of origins and I informed you of the origins of the "N" word.

So, if one progresses through the subsequent  sequence of usage, it is just as likely that it's fall from grace was brought about not by the offender, but by the offended.

Like golliwog, never intended to be abusive.....Just representative of reality........But deemed abusive by the offended.....Which can just as rightly be regarded as racism.....Though popularly, racism for some only means a one way transaction.....Hypocrisy I would suggest.

Typically you have missed the point and flown off the emotive handle.....I was merely discussing origins, rather than music industry sub-culture.

And rape and BDSM have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the point I was making.....So if you wish to discuss context, then stay on track.

Rape isnt bdsm. I did stay on track by the bdsm analogy. Raceplay kink exists as does humiliation kink. I know precisely what I am talking about and how consent matters.

The signiicant majority of people, black or nit, feel disgust and offence at the N-word being spoken by a white person. We can pretend it is not the case or logic our way out of it or we can respect the limit most have and that it isnt necessary to hurt their feelings.

Black people say nigga even outside of the music industry.

People choose to create disgust and offence, that's the undeniable sequence of data transfer, modification and response, and it is done for a specific reason.

Such behaviour has become a very powerful discriminatory counter-weapon.

Nigga Nigger, same difference, same Latin roots.

Call me whitey or alba....See if I care.

On this I agree with you Sadolite, at least to some degree.  In some lab experiments, the placebo effect is real 10% of those given false information about the pills they were given and they believe it enough that they respond as if the pills based on what they were told, not that the pills were neither a stimulant or a depressant.

Often times people do not know what to believe, so they look tho those in authority  ---doctors, police, president, scientists, etc--- to tell them the truth.

A failure to communicate is one thing, but a failure to communicate truth is another.  This thread appears to express some of both very clearly.

Derogatory term not to be used by people who are not black because it is insensitive to do so. 

Even older culture blacks do not like to other blacks using that word, but those blacks do not grasp that the use of the word by blacks, to each other, is a way of preparing them for the use of such derogatory terms by non-blacks, ergo, so as they do not so easily explode over hearing themselves being addressed in such a derogatory manner by non-blacks and especially police.

Older culture blacks....Hmmmmmm.

Older culture will learn from newer culture as newer culture will learn from older culture......Applies to all skin tone and ethnic variation.

And given the immediacy of technological info, it's unlikely that there will be many "older culture" still in the dark. (Pardon the expression).

And generations do not hang about for hundreds of years anyway......Silver surfing and all that......Most are up to speed.

My 86 year old Mother in Law is suitably techno literate.

Skating.

Tried it once,

Didn't like it.

Concentrating too hard,

On staying upright.

Never heard the song.

No amount of "Trump never said the n-word" cancels out the fact that he sides with hategroups.

There is no doubt Trump is a white nationalist and racist. But he is better at dividing white people. Look at the way he has divided the two political parties Democrats and Republicans when both parties are majority white.