trump's immigration rhetoric is overblown

well, let's see what the Mayor of Tijuana has to say......How about a former adviser to the Mexican president.  80% young males LOL you know if he's admitting to that the number is much higher.

The America morons who want America flooded with illiterate idiots are about to wet their pants with joy about 7,000 backward lowlifes storming the border. A liberals wet dream.

We need to be careful that one of these morons don't fire on the migrants just to make it seem like the soldiers did. I know they would love to have migrants die if it could be blamed on Trump.

good point, they are typically anti military and police, hence the reference to ICE and the KKK

It's true that Mexican immigrants commit less crime than the average US citizen, but why is that? It's purely because the US crime rate is far above the norm for an industrialized country due to the ridiculously high crime rate of blacks, who make up about 13 percent of the population. Mexican illegal immigrants commit crime at about the same rate as naturalized Mexican citizens when you adjust for age and time spent in the country, and this rate is almost double the rate for Whites. That's the way any honest person would frame it. 

well you are convincing me we want a wall at a higher price. but do you acknowledge that the logical extension of what you are saying is, that if illegal mexicans commit crime at the rate of legal mexicans, and the crime thing is the only thing we can say isnt an overblown reason in building hte wall..... then we also should try not getting legal mexicans either? i know mainstream politics is not okay with that and would use this to point to an underlying racism in trump's thought. but im convinced we want fewer mexicans and espeically blacks for this reason. knowing some of your racial views, you might feel that way too. 

What's the big problem with letting in Blacks that embrace western values, liberty, democracy, and a free market?

If they can go through the legal process and demonstrate that they will be an asset to the country by embracing these core values of American culture, what's the problem? Every illegal alien stopped at the border is one more resource freed up to handle a legal immigrant of any color.

if illegal and legal mexicans or blacks commit the same amount of crime, isn't it logically necessary that if you're building a wall to stop the illegal ones, that you should also limit legal immigration from those same groups? how is that not the same thing?

plus even if some mexicans or blacks seem like they might be cool, their whole demographic is tainted and their offspring might not act right. 

it's highly unlikely that the culture of a person can be discovered by putting their skin under a lamp over a legal citizenship test.

why build a wall then?

the only reason i can see to build one is because illegals commit more crime than whites. i dont see the job stealing as a reason cause we can just enforce making employers check citizen status, and drugs are too easy to find alternative ways to get them in here or they could invest a fraction on drug scanners, i think i heard a hundred million would help with the eighty percent of drugs that come through legal ports of entry. 

if you are being consistent it's either a wall and limiting immigration based on skin color, or no wall and not limiting based on skin color. 

or, why build a wall then?

So that we can put people of all colors under citizenship tests instead of spending billions of dollars to track them down with ICE to see if they are socialist commies or criminals or if they are decent people assimilating into America.