RNG Mafia (RESTARTED) DP1

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@badger
No point arguing this. Do you townread Supa? 
He’s null for activity reasons. You haven’t even stated why you want to lynch Supa.

I want to lynch my scumread Earth
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Post 86 is where I outline reasons why he’s scummy
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@Vader
I want to lynch badger. 


VTL badger
Would you like to explain why?
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@ILikePie5
I saw. I agree with the aggressiveness part. It is a bit uncharacteristic to a degree. I do know Earth can be aggressive but him being so outright pulls me the wrong way, given we just lost a game with inactive lynching too, which is what badger is doing with piggybacking off Earth

I want to lynch either tbh
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I would like to point out here that if I was mafia I would have played for NL. Anyone that can do very basic mathematics knows NL hurts town a lot more than a lynch here. I'm very actively trying to lynch someone. 
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@ILikePie5
#124. badger is kinda piggybacking Earth's aggressiveness by the inactive lynching
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@Vader
If Earth flips scum I’m open to going after Badger. As of now though, his role is confirmable because of the fact that he’s the Gunsmith.

Earth is easily a better option
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Not gonna lie, I townread Supa's push back on me lol. 
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@badger
I would like to point out here that if I was mafia I would have played for NL. Anyone that can do very basic mathematics knows NL hurts town a lot more than a lynch here. I'm very actively trying to lynch someone. 
You’re not the lynch today period. Your role is confirmable.
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@ILikePie5
Not wrong. I can get behind Earth or badger tbh. Personally, badger is more of my pick because piggybacking on Earth, but both work


Unvote VTL Earth
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@ILikePie5
how do you plan on confirming badger?
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I should never use my ability, btw. A misfire next DP puts town in MYLO. Me gunning someone is only depriving town of our ML. Add to that the possibility of a redirector and the role really is completely useless in this setup. 
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@badger
So you're the Gunsmith
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@Vader
Yes, claimed long ago. 
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I think we should lynch WF, but I'm fine with Earth now. I still think he's town tbh, but whatever. 
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@Greyparrot
how do you plan on confirming badger?
If someone gets a gun?
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ok if we vtl badger or supa if looks like factions will be formed and factions are bad for town.

Looks like testing Earth is the least controversial lynch.

UNVOTE
VTL Earth
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@badger
I should never use my ability, btw. A misfire next DP puts town in MYLO. Me gunning someone is only depriving town of our ML. Add to that the possibility of a redirector and the role really is completely useless in this setup. 
It’s a confirmable role. You have to use it. If scum get it and kill someone, so be it. It helps our POE anyways. Give it to someone you trust 
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You understand that I shouldn't gun, right? 
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@badger
I'm gonna catch up and put my reads fully once I'm out of this lecture, tbh, you aren't wrong about your role but i could see you easily using that sentence to cop out of a confirmation and fake it as scum
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I really think I should not use it at all lol. At least not this NP. The only utility I see in my role is taking a lynch out of town's hands D3. 
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What if there's a redirector? Then mafia gets the gun, keeps quiet, I get lynched and we lose. 

Even that possibility aside, the ML trumps me as a clear. 
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@whiteflame
My post also included points about how pushing for a claim wouldn't be very effective in this DP without more activity
Mafia are playing the odds game. It's best for town to claim even without activity. It pressures the claims to happen and so that hesitation doesn't occur


This WF quote sticks out like a pimple
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@badger
You understand that I shouldn't gun, right? 
A Gunsmith gives a gun to someone, effectively making them a 1x Vigilante. Worst case scenario is a scum member gets the gun via a redirection, but the odds of that are statistically low.

Rewards are that you’re confirmed. Even if a townie gets the gun and shoots a townie, it still helps POE
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You are seriously underestimating the mathematics here, Pie. 
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@ILikePie5
pie just kill him. he won't agree to your plan.
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@badger
What if there's a redirector? Then mafia gets the gun, keeps quiet, I get lynched and we lose. 

Even that possibility aside, the ML trumps me as a clear. 
The game is already Bastard because there is no balancing mechanism that the mod used. We lose we lose, but the odds are still on the town side. Especially if we have a watcher or something on you. Statistically there are 2 other town PRs.

Use the odds we have. Worst case it’s POE.
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@ILikePie5
Rewards are that you’re confirmed. Even if a townie gets the gun and shoots a townie, it still helps POE


No it doesn't. It seriously hurts town. Seriously seriously. 

Or if I do gun, we have to NL the DP afterwards. But then there's the redirector to think about. 
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Can someone tell me what weak cop does? 
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I'm gonna vtl earth and go watch a movie or something.