There is no such thing as an Atheists.

Author: Grugore ,

Topic's posts

Posts in total: 518
  • Grugore
    Grugore avatar
    Debates: 1
    Forum posts: 167
    0
    1
    2
    Grugore avatar
    Grugore
     Here's the way I see it. Atheists don't want God to exist the same way criminals don't want cops to exist. They know that God exists, but they suppress the truth. It's because they also know that they are sinners and deserve death. They know that Jesus gave His life so we could avoid death. But these people love their sin more than their Creator. Also, the Bible tells us that many witnessed the miracles of Christ and still rejected Him. So, it's not a matter of belief. It's a matter of obedience. There is no such thing as an atheist. Not my opinion. This is what Scripture tells us.

  • EtrnlVw
    EtrnlVw avatar
    Debates: 0
    Forum posts: 2,211
    2
    3
    4
    EtrnlVw avatar
    EtrnlVw
    --> @Grugore
    The one thing I cannot stand the most is when other people put words in my mouth or claim things about me I never said and do not believe. A post like this only serves to anger people. The best way to handle it is to speak for yourself and argue atheist concerns, you cross the line when you begin to tell people what they think and believe. 
    Love.....would really be the only way to build bridges, I'm not talking about pretending like there are no problems but posts like these have the opposite effect of what we really want, which is for the individual to make spiritual progress. This takes a lot of work and time but certainly you can create a more genuine original topic with all the wonderful things about the Creator to discuss?
  • EtrnlVw
    EtrnlVw avatar
    Debates: 0
    Forum posts: 2,211
    2
    3
    4
    EtrnlVw avatar
    EtrnlVw
    I think atheists in general have had enough verbal beat downs, maybe it's time we raise the bar and treat people with mutual respect regardless of what they believe. In the end, you will be happy that you did. 
  • Polytheist-Witch
    Polytheist-Witch avatar
    Debates: 1
    Forum posts: 1,932
    2
    2
    3
    Polytheist-Witch avatar
    Polytheist-Witch
    Atheist definitely don't think gods exist. 
  • Mopac
    Mopac avatar
    Debates: 4
    Forum posts: 7,303
    3
    4
    7
    Mopac avatar
    Mopac
    While there are probably some atheists who are taking part in a war against reality and truth, I think the more likely explanation is that most of them are simply uneducated or superstitious.


    But I will say this, someone may not believe that they have a god, but if you look at what motivates them and makes their life worth living, you will often times find a god.

    The self professed atheist, of course, doesn't really know what gods are, which is why they deny them. Even to the point of denying The One True God, which is The Truth itself.

  • keithprosser
    keithprosser avatar
    Debates: 0
    Forum posts: 3,289
    2
    3
    3
    keithprosser avatar
    keithprosser
    --> @Polytheist-Witch
    Atheist definitely don't think gods exist. 
    The only sentence so far that has any sense at all.


  • Polytheist-Witch
    Polytheist-Witch avatar
    Debates: 1
    Forum posts: 1,932
    2
    2
    3
    Polytheist-Witch avatar
    Polytheist-Witch
    --> @keithprosser
    Don't speak to me douche bag. 
  • keithprosser
    keithprosser avatar
    Debates: 0
    Forum posts: 3,289
    2
    3
    3
    keithprosser avatar
    keithprosser
    --> @Mopac
    I think the more likely explanation is that most [atheists] are simply uneducated or superstitious.
    I can barely believe what I am seeing in this thread.   That is exactly what atheists say about theists!




  • janesix
    janesix avatar
    Debates: 8
    Forum posts: 1,529
    2
    3
    3
    janesix avatar
    janesix
    --> @keithprosser
    And both would be wrong.
  • keithprosser
    keithprosser avatar
    Debates: 0
    Forum posts: 3,289
    2
    3
    3
    keithprosser avatar
    keithprosser
    --> @janesix
    Exactly so.   We won't get any where if both sides think the other lot are just deluded idiots.   As I have said,i think theists are wrong, but I don't thnk they are idiotic and I certainly don't hate them.   I do think that theism does lead to very some peculiar ideas, such as blood transfusions are bad and flying planes into skyscrapers is good (errors an atheist would not make!) and religion seems to divide people rather than unite them.  IMO. on balance we'd all be better off without theism.

    We are making great strdes in understanding the origins of  world and of life.   It still 'work-in-progress' but we will see artifical cells in outlife time.

    If there is a theist who thinks that only uneducated superstitious peons can be atheists, think again. 

  • janesix
    janesix avatar
    Debates: 8
    Forum posts: 1,529
    2
    3
    3
    janesix avatar
    janesix
    --> @keithprosser
    I don't believe for a second that anyone, theist or atheist, thinks that flying a plane into a building is "good".
  • keithprosser
    keithprosser avatar
    Debates: 0
    Forum posts: 3,289
    2
    3
    3
    keithprosser avatar
    keithprosser
    --> @janesix
    Then why did they do it?
  • janesix
    janesix avatar
    Debates: 8
    Forum posts: 1,529
    2
    3
    3
    janesix avatar
    janesix
    --> @keithprosser
    People do bad things all the time, knowing it's bad. 
  • Outplayz
    Outplayz avatar
    Debates: 0
    Forum posts: 2,108
    2
    3
    4
    Outplayz avatar
    Outplayz
    --> @Grugore
     This is what Scripture tells us.
    Here is just one other thing the scripture is wrong in... how many wrongs does there have to be before you get you're being manipulated by priests that hope you go to church long enough to have kids that they can eventually molest. There is nothing good about your god... bury it, six feet under. 

  • keithprosser
    keithprosser avatar
    Debates: 0
    Forum posts: 3,289
    2
    3
    3
    keithprosser avatar
    keithprosser
    --> @janesix
    Unfortunately we can't ask the 9-11 lot whether they thought they were doing good or bad.

  • Mopac
    Mopac avatar
    Debates: 4
    Forum posts: 7,303
    3
    4
    7
    Mopac avatar
    Mopac
    --> @keithprosser
    I am very aware. This is why I love to call atheists and uneducated because they demonstrably are.


    Know it all dipshits.

    They think they are so smart, well... now they are denying Truth itself! So enlightened!

    No, truly deserving of mockery. Forgive me!

    And believe me, I would love to spend my time here calling people names, mocking, and tearing people down through wittisms, but that isn't why I am here. I am here to educate, and so I must fight my natural inclination to have fun while tearing people down in order to show them charity for the sake of edification.

    So my intent to make fun of ignorant people in order to make myself feel better. I am here because I want people to come to The Truth, and my part in this is to sow seeds and show charity. I may never get to see these seeds grow. It is fine, I have done my duty.

    And God knows I'm not perfect, but if perfect vessels were required to do this kind of work, there would be no one to do the work.

    I am motivated by love, not glory.




  • Outplayz
    Outplayz avatar
    Debates: 0
    Forum posts: 2,108
    2
    3
    4
    Outplayz avatar
    Outplayz
    --> @Polytheist-Witch
    From the many atheists i've talked to, even some on these sites but not many here more in real life, i've been able to get them to a point of "maybe" or "that's a lot more logical" than one god in regards to multiple gods. Of course, i advocated for my belief which isn't really "gods" per se, but it's closer to that idea. I would say atheists "definitely" don't believe in "god." At least from a smaller sample size of people i've talked to. They are universally against the Abrahamic god... other platforms i've noticed they can entertain. 
  • Polytheist-Witch
    Polytheist-Witch avatar
    Debates: 1
    Forum posts: 1,932
    2
    2
    3
    Polytheist-Witch avatar
    Polytheist-Witch
    --> @Outplayz
    They are not against a god if they don't believe in it. They are against people. And they are against all theists. 
  • keithprosser
    keithprosser avatar
    Debates: 0
    Forum posts: 3,289
    2
    3
    3
    keithprosser avatar
    keithprosser
    In this thread I - as an atheist - have been insulted thus;

    a sinner deserve death.
    uneducated or superstitious.
    douche bag.
    Know it all dipshit.

    I don't mind, but don't also claim any moral upper ground on the insult/'ad hominem' front!







  • Outplayz
    Outplayz avatar
    Debates: 0
    Forum posts: 2,108
    2
    3
    4
    Outplayz avatar
    Outplayz
    --> @Polytheist-Witch
    Fair enough. But in real life, i see a different portrait. I don't think i've ever met a militant atheist. 
  • 3RU7AL
    3RU7AL avatar
    Debates: 1
    Forum posts: 6,010
    3
    3
    7
    3RU7AL avatar
    3RU7AL
    --> @Grugore
    Here's the way I see it. Atheists don't want God to exist the same way criminals don't want cops to exist. They know that God exists, but they suppress the truth. It's because they also know that they are sinners and deserve death. They know that Jesus gave His life so we could avoid death. But these people love their sin more than their Creator. Also, the Bible tells us that many witnessed the miracles of Christ and still rejected Him. So, it's not a matter of belief. It's a matter of obedience. There is no such thing as an atheist. Not my opinion. This is what Scripture tells us.
    Here's the way I see it.  Atheists don't want Nanabozho to exist the same way criminals don't want Pangu to exist.  They know that Nanabozho exists, but they suppress the truth.  It's because they also know that they are sinners and deserve death.  They know that Nanabozho created all life on earth so all humans have a chance to live.  But these people love their sin more than their Nanabozho.  Also, the ancient stories tell us that many have witnessed the miracles of Nanabozho and still rejected Nanabozho.  So, it's not a matter of belief.  It's a matter of obedience.  There is no such thing as an atheist.  Not my opinion.  This is what the ancient stories tell us.

  • Polytheist-Witch
    Polytheist-Witch avatar
    Debates: 1
    Forum posts: 1,932
    2
    2
    3
    Polytheist-Witch avatar
    Polytheist-Witch
    --> @Outplayz
    Look harder. 
  • 3RU7AL
    3RU7AL avatar
    Debates: 1
    Forum posts: 6,010
    3
    3
    7
    3RU7AL avatar
    3RU7AL
    --> @janesix
    I don't believe for a second that anyone, theist or atheist, thinks that flying a plane into a building is "good".
    I don't believe for a second that anyone, theist or atheist, thinks that firebombing 100,000 civilians in Tokyo is "good".


  • janesix
    janesix avatar
    Debates: 8
    Forum posts: 1,529
    2
    3
    3
    janesix avatar
    janesix
    --> @3RU7AL
    Neither do I. 

    People do bad shit, and they know it. And they do it anyway.
  • 3RU7AL
    3RU7AL avatar
    Debates: 1
    Forum posts: 6,010
    3
    3
    7
    3RU7AL avatar
    3RU7AL
    --> @keithprosser
    I think the more likely explanation is that most [atheists] are simply uneducated or superstitious.
    I can barely believe what I am seeing in this thread.   That is exactly what atheists say about theists!
    When people can't analyze a situation logically, they just repeat the insults that hurt them the most.

    Science and skepticism is the opposite of superstition.

    Open a dictionary.