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@Buddamoose
If you mean by way of "systemic" the reasonable case could be made that welfare systems operate as a form of systemic racism, but systemic by way of codified law? Read somewhere Asians get docked 50 points on SAT scores, that might indirectly count as that. 
I'm not saying that there cannot be unjust racial discrimination. I'm saying that "racism" is a nonsense term.

Doesn't mean there isnt racism still. Even if you take into account "race" biologically not being a valid taxonomical classification, people can still be "racist" in acting upon such "symbolic" classifications, and thus there necessarily can be "racism" in turn. 
Wow, dude. That's a pretty radical (and incorrect) claim. We readily class other species with sub-species, but as soon as we do the same with humans and call them races, it's no longer valid.

If this were a debate, you'd get absolutely cleaned up, if you made this ridiculously retarded claim.

I might even post a thread just to debunk you.

Or it could just be someone being obtuse. Confirmation bias much? 😰
If you call me obtuse again, I'll give you another month in solitary confinement.


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@Zarroette
you say that you can hate someone for their Race, but what you omit is what happens when you apply that racial hatred into actions.... that's Racism


Ad homs are insults directed at the character of another. I'm sure you know you've crossed that line.

Doesn't make me mad, just shows a lack of debating skills on your part Bro

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you say that you can hate someone for their Race, but what you omit is what happens when you apply that racial hatred into actions.... that's Racism
Wrong.


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Buddamoose. Instead of using smiley faces and acting like you're better than me can you kindly point out where whites have been outdone in atrocities in the past.

Even Genghis Khan, if you look past his horrific means of getting power, was very reasonable once he had it.
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Well, this thread devolved quickly. I blame stupidity on many sides.
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And now, there's this article by Matt Bai, displayed prominently on the Yahoo news website and also not marked as an opinion piece.
The tone, rather than merely speculating on what might happen from this point out, is quite blatantly anti-Trump, accusing him of, among other things, having a Caligula-esque personality.
At one point he inadvertently acknowledges the truth we've all known: what liberals really want, far from being patriots who only want justice and rule of law, is to call into question the legitimacy of Trump's election and presidency. And yet he still has the audacity to say that Trump is the "bully" here.

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More proof of media bias:


Kavanaugh's performance was absolutely nothing as described above. He was calm and collected most of the time, and he was not shrieking hysterically. He read off a script or so to speak; he was clearly emotional, but never out of control. I watched it, so I should know. Anybody who didn't watch the Kavanaugh confirmation would see this article and erroneously conclude that Kavanaugh acted in a manner that he flat out didn't, giving the utterly false impression that Kavanaugh and the GOP turned this whole confirmation into one giant circus. The media knows what effect its lies might have, and yet it lies anyway.

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And oh look, here's the Washington Post also mocking his performance and portraying him as an screaming, entitled brat.


Never mind the fact that his reputation is in shambles on account of these totally unproven allegations, the fact that he would have that seat right now if not for those purported "victims" of his coming out of nowhere to slander him with no evidence whatsoever.
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That's just who journalists are: they'll destroy a man's good name and them mock him afterwards, all because they disagree with his politics. Why? Because the people who we trust to tell us the news are Marxists. Nothing is sacred, nothing is too dirty, so long as they succeed in dismantling every aspect of this country that does not conform to their extremist agenda.

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Here's a piece/hagiography by The Guardian on Christine Blasey Ford, whose accusations are totally unproven. This article also makes mention of Anita Hill, whose allegations were also unproven, and casts her also as a hero. And for good measure it also throws in the possible repeal of Roe v. Wade as an evil act of misogyny cause, you know, those anti-abortion people obviously just do it for the kicks.

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How dare they destroy the "good name" of a rapist. tut tut tut.
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Yeah rape is mandated if you are a right wing misogynist. Women just gettin' uppity, they need to know there place and pumpkin head pays them to stay there.
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Today, the gross turds with Yahoo wrote a piece complaining about the fact that people can't "opt out" of the emergency presidential alert system (which would instantly warn a hundred million Americans if, say, North Korea suddenly launched a nuclear attack) just because Trump's currently the president.

Article here:
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Maybe people should listen to Alex Jones for balance 


Infowars.com



I work for a government contractor, and we are pretty much forced to watch msnbc all day long. Every so often cnn.

Alex Jones is not hate speech. He is right about what these people are doing, and they want to silence him for it.


How do I know? Because I used to be involved with these people. Alex Jones is right about them. Thats what I think.

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Today we have this lovely article by The Guardian on Nikki Haley:

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@Swagnarok
I think it's interesting when people assume that half the country is conservative or right-leaning when this isn't true. Also interesting that you think a distinction needs to be made between white nationalism and white supremacy as if either are anything more than outlets of status anxiety racism.
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@Mopac
Who are the people you worked with and what did they do that Alex Jones correctly reported on?
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@Buddamoose
Foucault talked somewhat frequently about the relationship between the historicity (read: symbolic or non-natural) of classificatory groups and oppression. Our inability to think historically re the malleability and/or illusory nature of various taxonomies is an essential barrier to dismantling those attitudes. So like yer saying, race doesn't necessarily exist as a  transcendental signifier (inasmuch as sexual identity or gender don't either) but that doesn't stop individual actors or institutions from acting as if they did. It's part of the reason modern liberalism talks it's way into circles with identity politics.
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@Swagnarok
Lol @journalists being Marxists. I've read Marx, I know Marxists, I've identified as one before (different story). Peeps writing for WaPo or NYT or reporting for CNN are about as far from Marxism as can be. What kind of Marxists would deride yer Prez for threatening to nerf NAFTA? What kind of Marxist would stand behind the Justice Dept. and the FBI? What kind of fucking Marxist would defend the electoral/justice system in such a way as to place their hopes on midterms, 2020, and the Senate and special counsel investigations? 

Truthfully, the people writing these opinion pieces are run in the middle liberals and centrists. I have my own beef with them and their methods but not because they're extremists. Because they're the opposite. They're largely toothless and that's why liberals largely fail to retain power for any considerable length of time.


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@Aporia
Can't say. PsyOp stuff. Thats as far as I will say.

Will only say that Jones is right about the globalist conspiracy. New World Order stuff. I will say that the people who are being duped into working towards overthrowing their governments don't realize that the new government that comes to replace it is going to look very different than what they imagine.

The people working this game exploit people who think they are fighting against them even. 

What can be done? I don't know. Really the damage has been done. This was a multigenerational project. We are already several generations into it. It is self perpetuating and self spreading at this point. Has actually been for a while.

But why do I say listen to Alex Jones? As a counterbalance to the rest of the bullshit you are fed on a daily basis. Crazy as he may seem, the guy has a pretty good grasp on what is going on. I can say that because I was a part of it. I absolutely cannot get too detailed about that. I'm not expecting you to believe me either.

Like I said though, the damage is really done. I'm not sure what can be done. The infiltration is at such a high level at this point, and it is something that is self perpetuating.

The chaos bomb has already blown up.






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@Mopac
So.... no claims at all. Yer full of shit. /convo
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@Aporia
That is a very rude thing to say, and it isn't really true either.


Here is something for you to chew on if you want.






Very related to what I actually claimed.


Anyway, have a good one, meanie.





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@Aporia
I mainly use "Marxist" as a term of abuse, same way as many Trump supporters are labeled as "Nazis" even though they're nowhere even remotely close to Nazism, and how white nationalists are inaccurately labeled white supremacists quite frequently, even though there is actually a big difference.
Also, I use Marxism as synonymous with far-left politics. Traditionally this has taken the form of economic left-wing politics, but in modern times it takes the form of far-left identity politics, which the "mainstream" press definitely ascribes to.
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It's funny because white nationalism = white supremacy
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@Swagnarok
I love the cognitive dissonance of "mainstream media" as if the station with the most viewers and most hardcover ideological defenders isn't essentially the PR wing of the conservative political party
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@Aporia
They're not the same. PM me if you want to hear more about this.
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@Aporia
Plurality=/=majority
For example, let's say it boiled down to something like this:
Fox News (Right)-30℅ of share
CNN (Center Left)-28℅ of share
Yahoo (Left)-22℅ of share
MSNBC (Left)-11℅ of share
Washington Post (Left)-9℅ of share

That'd be a 70℅ share for the overall Left, though Fox News being the biggest channel might still be true, simply because among conservatives there was a lesser degree of dispersion among various outlets.
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@Zarroette
"Racism doesn't exist. Period." I agree. It's all ideological. Skin color doesn't divide and separate people. The way people think does. Agree with me or die mentality.

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Alright, it's been a while but here's one:

A church sign states something that most hardcore Christians do believe today and have historically believed, which is unambiguously written into the Christian holy scriptures, and which was believed by approximately half or more of American adults as recently as 2003. The billboard was obviously not written in a threatening way.
And yet this article brought to us by the lying Marxist press has the audacity to portray this as equivalent to graffiti on the walls of a gay bathhouse reading something like "Kill yourselves f*ggots" or like a swastika spraypainted onto a Jewish tombstone, when there is absolutely and unequivocally no equivalent here to such. Nobody should have felt "threatened" in the slightest by this billboard. There was no threat, just Christian doctrine presented in a slightly more blunt manner than usual. Not sure what kind of retard would've felt threatened by this, but I guess we are talking about California, so...