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    All conscious activity exists as energetic frequencies on certain levels like radio stations/channels....Have you ever considered frequency as the denominator or correlation for spiritual communication/experience? perhaps consider conscious awareness as a level or vibration of frequency like a radio wave that has specific wavelengths that if you wish to tune in, you must establish that frequency/channel or signal before tuning in, in other words being a transmitter/receiver of types.
    "Receiver" (you) being the mechanistic conductor/device of what is being transmitted, in this sense, in order that we receive spiritual frequencies (knowledge) or experiences one must have the correct channel and device to receive information on that level of frequency. Consider your being as a transmitter or conductor, where whatever channel or frequency you are tuned into or operating from is what you will experience or receive. Being only a receiver for one channel or frequency would dictate what you receive and what you could be aware of.

    Same thing with spirituality really, we will receive from whatever "channel" we tune into to, or whatever channel or frequency we are consumed with observing. Just a different way of proposing why there are people who experience this and those who do not and what the differences are. If you want to experience or tune into a frequency you have never tuned into, try adjusting the channel or frequency. This is kinda how spirituality works, it challenges the individual to tune into another "channel" or frequency.

    "In radio communication systems, information is carried across space using radio waves. At the sending end, the information to be sent, in the form of a time-varying electrical signal, is applied to a radio transmitter."

    "The radio waves from many transmitters pass through the air simultaneously without interfering with each other. They can be separated in the receiver because each transmitter's radio waves oscillate at a different rate, in other words each transmitter has a different frequency. "

    "It has a natural resonant frequency at which it oscillates. The resonant frequency is set equal to the frequency of the desired radio station. The oscillating radio signal from the desired station causes the tuned circuit to oscillate in sympathy, and it passes the signal on to the rest of the receiver. Radio signals at other frequencies are blocked by the tuned circuit and not passed on."

    Perhaps your channel or station is set to only a certain "radio wave"?


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    I await your link to a peer reviewed study on the subject. Until then I have no choice but to reject your claim.
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    Well you can pick and choose what source you receive information from but that only reveals your bias. "Peer reviewed" study on the subject includes that which has been recorded through spirituality and correlating sources. Are you open to that or do you only accept information that supports your worldview?
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    I accept physical evidence. Do you have any?
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    I await your link to a peer reviewed study on the subject.

    Why do my observations need to be peer reviewed before you consider them anyways? are your "peers" something you put your full faith in? who are these peers I need to bring into the equation for you?
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    I accept physical evidence. Do you have any?

    Yes, but does the nature of spirituality correlate with physical evidence besides testimonials? 
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    Testimony-
    "evidence or proof provided by the existence or appearance of something.

    firsthand authentication of a fact : evidence an outward sign

    Evidence in support of a fact or assertion; proof."

    This is the type of evidence that correlates with the nature of spirituality because we are not dealing with any physical objects.  In this sense we are dealing with more evidence than one can ever know what to do with. 


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    Peer reviewed as in repeatable consistent results in laboratory conditions.

    As for anecdotal evidence otherwise known as eye witness testimony...

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    Peer reviewed as in repeatable consistent results in laboratory conditions.

    Welcome to the world of spirituality which has been shown for ages through repeatability. No, laboratory conditions will never produce spiritual conditions because that is absurd, but spirituality is based on repeatable observations, only a different nature. 

    As for anecdotal evidence otherwise known as eye witness testimony...

    Called evidence, get that straight. Don't know why you guys accept only one form of evidence. That is intellectually dishonest. 


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    Eye witness testimony is evidence. It is also unreliable. Unreliable evidence can and should be dismissed. I have always been very clear about what sort of evidence I will accept. Is there any reason tbat I should accept your unreliable anecdotal evidence over rational madman's or hari krish's? Is there any reason I should accept yours over the testimony of a scientologist or a self.proclimed alien abductee?
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    Its not even that we are limited by anything, it is that physical "evidence" is limited, not the reality of spirituality. 
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    Eye witness testimony is evidence.

     Oh wow, now you're getting it. 

    It is also unreliable. Unreliable evidence can and should be dismissed. I have always been very clear about what sort of evidence I will accept.

    Unreliable is an opinion and depends upon the source and what we are examining. You can't label all testimonials as unreliable until you can prove that. 
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    Personal experience is not objective. That is definitionaly true. That means that your personal experience cannot be considered a part of objective reality.
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    Which had the better track record for curing disease, science or spirituality? How about feeding people? Creating reliable housing? Keeping people warm in winter? Science is observable superior to spirituality at improving our lives and far better at revealing objective truth.
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    Personal experience is not objective.

    So your testimony no matter what the occasion is never true? perhaps you don't know what personal experience means? 

    That is definitionaly true. That means that your personal experience cannot be considered a part of objective reality.

    Then what is a testimony? no matter what you experience and what you claim can never be a part of objective reality lol, have fun with your delusions then. Everything you experience first hand is nothing more than a subjective reality. In this case, how will you ever know what is true?? you can never base your knowledge on anything you experience (testimony)….if it is not objective. 
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    Which had the better track record for curing disease, science or spirituality? How about feeding people? Creating reliable housing? Keeping people warm in winter? Science is observable superior to spirituality at improving our lives and far better at revealing objective truth.

    Two different natures and two different objectives. 

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    My experience is all I have, I cannot rely on yours. Also my memory of past events can be incorrect. Did you not receive my link? Oh well here it is again.

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    My experience is all I have, I cannot rely on yours.

    That would be called a testimony, your objective observations of what you experience. 

    Also my memory of past events can be incorrect.

    May be so, but we are not talking about faulty memories. 
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    Also also no I can never be certain that my experience accurately reflects reality but If it does then science is pur best tool for discovering objective truth.
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    we are not talking about faulty memories. 

    That is impossible to be certain of.
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    Explain why RM's testimony is wrong and yours is right.
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    I had already asked that. So far no answer.
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    I know I was trying to remind him, he evades incessantly.
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    In this case, how will you ever know what is true?? 
    He has already admitted he does not know what is true and has no way of finding out what is true.

    The absurdity of such a person asking you for evidence is lost on him. The fact is, by his own words he has no logical bases to ask for evidence, and has no logical bases to deny or reject your evidence.

    Here is his strategy. If he says he knows nothing for sure, and he does say so, he doesn't have to answer any of your questions. But when it comes to demanding "evidence" from you and rejecting your evidence, suddenly, he knows something.

    Don't know why you guys accept only one form of evidence. That is intellectually dishonest.
    They know it's dishonest. If they were honest, your side would win the argument because they would not be able to address your evidence. They are materialists, they cannot address your position, thus the subterfuge and dodging.
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    I just lit all your strawmen, oops they all went up in a puff of smoke.