Alpha vs. Beta

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    I keep trying to wonder why beta's have survived for so long, and so many of them given natural selection. Shouldn't there be way more Alpha's in the world? It looks about even bw the two. But then i kept thinking and came to something else... are beta's really beta? Both parties have their extremes. Super alphas and super betas. Both are annoying. Very stupid confidence vs. well... pussy crybabies. 

    But how about the inbetween? Are those beta's just alpha's behind a disguise? Let me give an example. A car tire blows out. The alpha asks the beta to change the tire. The beta says he doesn't know how (but the reality is he knows damn well how to change a tire). The alpha makes fun of the beta for not knowing and not being manly, but the beta smirks and chuckles well "I could try." The alpha says hell no. Don't want you to mess things up so the alpha does it. The amazing thing about the alpha is a year later. A year later the wheel blows out. Can you change it beta? I don't remember how. How can you not the alpha asks, i'm pretty sure i showed you. The beta (remembering fully) replies, well i can try and do my best... the alphas says hell no, i got this.

    This situation could happen over and over again. The beta basically doesn't give a fuck about being "manly" or looking up a youtube video and taking charge. The beta is a lazy fuck that gets the alpha to do all his work bc well... alphas are easy to manipulate for betas. This scenario can be true in any case: Do the harder part of this homework assignment bc you're smarter, take care of the kids bc i would be horrible at it, go get the groceries bc i will probably mess up getting what we need, etc. The beta has the alpha wrapped around his/her fingers. It's amazing. 

    So... i must ask, who's really the beta?  
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    How many leaders to followers, as a ratio do you believe is normal?

    Almost by definition you can't have more leaders than followers.

    Therefore, the followers would naturally outnumber the leaders.
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    That makes sense, but i didn't think being an Alpha is exclusive to being a leader is it? 
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    The following is a newish theory formed by experts on wolf packs as well as primate development, so many sources out there give you biased, tarnished views of these variants and are either Sigma-centric or Alpha-centric. Ignore them, they are biased and flawed; I say this as a Sigma male myself.

    This list is ordered by the general ego and urge of said person to read about themselves in my predicted typology, not on the actual placing in social hierarchy.

    If you are not listed, it's not that I forgot you, it's that I'm trying to name archetypes and you are likely a hybrid-type.

    Alphas
    Alphas are not exactly what you think. They do dominate but are, other than Gammas, the singularly most insecure type because they combine being 'blatant' with requiring praise. Sigmas compensate for their ego's hunger by solving what gets praise and working a lot behind the scenes with no praise just for infrequent, but guaranteed, bursts of praise and respect. Alphas seek constant praise as an addiction. They can't be out of the spotlight for long or they will move away to another group.

    Alpha males on DDO-DarC include(d) Bench, Heineken, Ajabi and YYW.
    Alpha females include(d) Danielle and Debatability.

    The Alpha, like the Lion in the Savannah or the Shark in the water, is so utterly blatant and intentionally abrasive in how they go about being what they are. To them, life isn't just about staying at the top of the food chain but is undeniably also about ensuring you remain there and keep it valuable by reducing the amount who do. Alphas will be as cunning as Sigmas at times but feel disgusted and ashamed afterwards, conversely Sigmas feel sick inside and severely anxious after periods of long overt-confrontation being required to maintain their dominant aura. Alpha enjoy blatant dominance, Sigmas enjoy subtle dominance. Alphas are nothing without Betas, they enjoy the enjoyment of those under them being under them. They NEED the Gang to enjoy being the Godfather, after all. Alphas are good at consistently enduring confrontation and are known for being fast on their feet in all senses of the term, in life. Alphas don't want a society of equals, there is no such thing as a Communist or even Socialist alpha male or female. Stalin was a brutal Sigma male. Alphas aren't defined by being leaders, they are leaders due to being defined as praise and respect junkies. I don't say this to insult them, it's just sad that they're adored by the media and in Conservative slogans. Being alpha isn't being superior, it's just being in charge in a blatant manner. If that's what you call superior, so be it.

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    Sigmas
    There are Sigma Males, such as myself, Airmax and Drafterman.
    There are Sigma Females, such as Zeichen.

    The unifying traits of the Sigma are that they are equal to Alphas in the food chain hierarchy but capable of working alone and yet not alone both at once. Examples of what a sigma is species-wise is like what the Tiger is to the Lion, or what most predator reptiles are in and of themselves. Sigmas tend to operate by dominating a niche and working very hard to ensure that the niche let's them be their eccentric self without actively fighting alphas to remain there. Examples include that guy in prison who is not running the gang but permanently in the second-to-third band of ranks in the gang. He knows exactly what kind of heat and risk comes with being the alpha shot-caller and prefers remaining permanently in a position of healthy risk vs healthy reward. He is both loyal to the leader and yet ready to betray the leader when it's optimal to do so. This is your archetype sigma male. The sigma female operates by mastering drama without being at the center of it at any given time. If she is in the spotlight, she will ensure to maximise the usage of said spotlight at firing it back brutally onto the one(s) who shone it onto her.


    Omegas
    Omega males on this site include ethang5, MagicAintReal, sadolite, BrutalTruth and spacetime.
    Omega females include Polytheist-Witch and Zarroette AKA Analgesic.Spectre (isn't doxxing, she admitted it publicly even recently)

    Superficially, Omegas are bottom-feeders but this is extremely cruel and biased to assume. The Omega is what the Sigma would be if the Sigma wasn't as narcissistic and cunning. Omegas believe that the food chain is an illusion and that, in reality, it's about being who you are, period. Examples of omega-centric species in nature include rhinos, buffalos and orangutans. To the omega, hierarchy is nothing... As in, unlike the Sigma, the Omega doesn't try to work 'around' hierarchy... They just straight up believe it's not there. The reason they are not preyed on is because it's almost too easy to do it and yet impossible and extremely damaging to one's reputation and emotional well-being to do so. If you fuck with the Omega they WILL seek revenge and they will not at all have any hesitation.

    When Sigmas and Alphas look at Omegas, what they see is actually severely different. Sigmas look down on the Omega for their lack of cunning and discipline. Alphas look down on the Omega because the alpha sees actually a 'pure Alpha' being to such an extreme that the being doesn't need the betas or deltas to fulfil themselves... It terrifies them and upsets the food-chain immensely.


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    Deltas vs Gammas vs Zetas
    The Delta, Gamma and Zeta are all arguably normal. The issue is how they achieve said normality and what it does to them.

    Delta males on the site include Virtuoso, Tejretics, ResurgetExFavilla and Thett3.
    Delta females on the site include... Well, it's hard to think of one off the top of my head but there are many out there (more Delta females than Delta males IRL by a large margin).

    Deltas love that they are normal, do not loathe nor love the weird and giggle away as Alphas dominate, sigmas outsmart, omegas rebel, betas obey and all of it goes on around them. The Delta is born to feel normal and enjoy being it, there is no other way to put it and not really much depth to them. Delta species archetypes in nature include flamingos, meerkats, elephants and many species of fish among others.

    Due to the negative opinion I have of Gammas and how I portray them, I won't go into who is one unless you ask me privately if I think you are one.

    Gammas hate that they are normal, immensely. This agony is not their only defining feature... It is also that they are painfully bland to others, in itself.
    Most Gammas were naturally born to be Sigma males or females, this is my honest theory. Gammas wanted to outsmart the system, be dominant and feared without having to pander to norms or work their way around Alphas by kissing their feet but they realised they had to be both smart and disciplined as fuck to achieve that goal and realised there's an easier way to avoid it; be the quiet one. Sigmas are generally quiet people but they are not at all afraid to fuck you up with confrontation if it's timed well and it seems optimal to 'flex' on you. Gammas are quiet people, period. Examples in nature include chameleons, many ant species and pack-based insects in general other than noisy ones, squirrel and many other species that don't come immediately to mind when anyone says their favourite animal, such as jellyfish.

    It is important to note, however, that online a Gamma is not necessarily like they are in real life, it becomes their outlet. Some of the most devoted gamers and outspoken people online in the world of Gamer Streaming have been Gammas. The Gamma isn't defined by being in the background, they're defined as being there with resentment. Deltas adore their normality, Gammas don't, this is the distinct difference.

    Zeta males on the site include Raltar, whiteflame and Mopac
    Zeta females don't really exist, at all.

    Zetas are less complex than you think. At first the appear to be the single most complex type but without a doubt the Sigma is the most complex type. Zetas are actually the simplest type because they exist for one reason, a reason even simpler than that of the Omega; to exist at all. This sounds more degrading than it is. The Zeta is a being that is almost exactly half-way between Buddhist Monk and Christian Demon. They are basically completely neutral in the end but all believe they are on a special quest and yet have very simple ways of being satisfied with life. They are beautiful in a way and yet dull in another. The reason you almost never find a Zeta female is because they are usually always Delta females or Lambda females due to the female urge to feel things and experience passions on a daily basis. The Zeta male is basically Master Yoda embodied. Zeta-like species include all deer/antelope variants, domesticated cats and something like a stingray or sloth. The 'slowness' isn't an insult in the latter species, it's not the speed that's the factor, it's the utter peace with their 'inferiority'... In fact, to the Zeta male, the Omega male is a sham. The Omega male pretends to not care, the Zeta male genuinely is at total peace with things as they are. The Omega male ignores the food chain and lives to defy it, the Zeta male notices there is a food chain and say 'so what? If I wasn't here to be what I am, you couldn't feel great for not being me and frankly I think we both know I'm better than you in some ways so peace, hombre.'

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    The Lambdas vs the Betas

    Lambda males on this site include Jboy3r, Outplayz and Alec.
    Lambda females include Castin.

    The Lambda is wrongly said to the the rarest type. The Zeta and Gamma are rarer than the Lambda. The Lambda is a being that is unlike any other type in almost any way. The Lambda male exists to enjoy everything and the Lambda female exists to admire everything. In their own way they are the same type because it's about what drives males vs females. The Lambda is extremely easy to confuse for a Delta or a Zeta at times. The complete difference between the Lambda and those 2 types is that no one, ever, would call a Lambda normal. The Lambda isn't 'weird' in their head, they are actually severely perplexed as to why there is any kind of social food chain at all. Unlike Omegas, they don't deny the food chain is there and unlike Zetas, Gammas and Betas, they feel 0 envy or unwillingness to get aroused by the dominant aura of alphas and the intellect and threatening aura of Sigmas. Lambdas adore everyone, it's actually severely painful to them to experience anger or hate. Unlike the Zeta, they do feel severely deep emotions. Why, then are they lumped with the Betas? The reason is that Betas submit to alphas out of an ingrained sense of duty whereas Lambdas actively submit to alphas out of an ingrained urge to enjoy the alpha for what they are. Betas enjoy Sigmas because they love using the Sigma to protect and intellectually stimulate them, Lambdas enjoy Sigmas because Sigmas are fascinating to watch and explore. So much about the Beta and Lambda is similar but they are not the same at all.

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    Lamba vs Beta Continued

    Let's do the naming thing first.

    Beta males on DarC (this term is severely negatively portrayed by the media and by people like Outplayz, it's not negative it's one of many variants, to be honest it is kind of negative like the Gamma male is but this is my honest observation)...

    PGA2.0, secularmerlin and SamStevens.

    Beta females on the site include WarriorQueenForever but no other prominent female member that I know of on this site is one.

    The idea behind the Beta's ethos is possibly the single most misportrayed and misunderstood concept in the history of humankind. Betas are natural audience members. They are not natural servants. This is extremely important to understand because until you realise that none of these types other than the Lambda, willingly serve and giggle while doing it, you won't understand why Betas feel continually humiliated and jeered for what they are. Betas are first Deltas. No one is born Beta. My theory on this is that the Delta that realises there's many dominant, interesting humans out there to watch, listen to and go along with ends up becoming Beta. On the other hand, if the being simply goes 'meh, others aren't every that great but I do like going with the flow' they end up being Deltas. Betas do not 'go with the flow' they do not 'serve alphas' they actively seek out alphas to entertain them. Beta humans are not weak for being what they are, in fact none of these types are weak for being what they are. Betas are built to thoroughly yearn for a 'show', for a 'battle' but not ever one involving them. Shit-stirrers can be Sigmas, Gammas or Betas but the Beta does it out of compulsion... They just love it. They don't mean to hurt people, they mean to enjoy a show is all. The Beta tends to be consistently inconsistent. Unlike any other type, the Betas actually have the most variance, not least variance, among them. A beta's upbringing, information they came across as children... Education... All of that, is almost entirely what shapes their worldview and opinions. They actively enjoy taking in things and not questioning them, "why fight what is likely from something wiser and more entertaining than I am?" asks the Beta on a daily basis. They don't submit out of fear, they submit out of truly enjoying the path of least resistance. Cowards? That's suggesting we are supposed to be brave. Sigmas are (it rhymes) enigmas in that they are able to be both confrontational and yet cunning deep down. Sigmas, Gammas and Betas all are coward-variants whereas alphas, omegas and zetas are brave-variants with alphas and omegas being brash-flavoured-brave and zetas being passive-aggressive-brave.

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    Oh look. Stupid shit
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    Beta = .."A beta particle, also called beta ray or beta radiation, is a high-energy, high-speed electron or positron emitted by the radioactive decay of an atomic nucleus during the process of beta decay.

    .....There are two forms of beta decay, β− decay and β⁺ decay, which produce electrons and positrons respectively."

    Alpha = .."The alpha particle is a helium nucleus; it consists of two protons and two neutrons."...

    Alpha = more dense, more mass.

    Beta = less dense, less mass

    Natural state of Universe is as lightest weight photon ergo speed-of-radiation. Entropy is taking is towards a Universe of this lightest weight state/phase of existence.

    The  beta particle attempts to do this get back to this natural state ergo that is why there is more beta's.  It is one path,  in direction of path-of-least-resistence, as associated with positive shaped (  )  geodesics of gravity (  ).

    We have mass density because of interference. This intefers with that and creates mass. 

    It appears to me that dark energies negative geodesics is associated with entropy and will lead to less and less interference ergo less mass of Universe. The natural decay rate of proton is not known ergo we are left to speculate that it will decay naturally.




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    It's funny because you proved me right.
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    Cause horoscopes. Moron

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    I like the description. Are Lambda's capable of turning into alpha/stigma's when it suits them best? That's one thing about me. Most the time i let others do things for me and sit back... but if i feel an alpha is truly needed in the moment, i can pick up the role when i need to.
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    Yes, the Lambda is able to become any type to help and nurture the others in the scenario. They rarely enjoy clashing in any way with others because they are highly empathetic.
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    Hmmm okay, i'm cool with that. 
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    If you're not cool with it, you're not Lambda. ;D

    In fact I know it looks like I pulled all that out my ass but I'm proud of it. It took years of careful observation and exploring labels that 'alpha male' sites use etc.

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    You did a pretty good job. I enjoyed reading all of them. Which one's would you say are the least manipulative or that understand manipulation the least. Bc, as it stands right now.... i can tell one specific user isn't very good at it. She blocked me bc she thinks she understands my intentions... it's quite funny. I'll tell you more in pms if you're curious, don't want to give up my ruse.   
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    Omegas.
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    Hahahah no way. Did you know who i was talking about? Or did you just answer? Be honest, bc that is pretty darn good observations if you didn't know. It rivals even me in my sociological expertise. 
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    If you read the Omega description, it is quite clear what their main weakness is.

    Zetas are not manipulative but don't lack the knowledge of how to. Both Zetas and Omegas are not very manipulative at all in practise.



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    Yeah i just re-read it. "Lack of cunning etc." You're pretty good at understanding sociological concepts. This would have actually made for a very interesting project in multiple socio classes i've taken. The teachers love this sort of thinking and observations. One of my notable projects were naming the different types of male / females in a bar setting. That was fun bc i got to drink and do my research lol.  
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    Just to be clear the label names were invented by other movements like 'men going their own way' which is a sigma-elitist anti-feminist movement. I didn't invent the terminology, I realised their descriptions of omega, lambda etc were so rude and abusive and based on pigheaded ego-male attitudes that it was pointless to argue. In fact, most sigma males give a truly terrible image of the sigma male in their adverts and blogs on seduction techniques for the more introverted, cunning male. They make us out to be basically the shallowest-motivated scum of society.

    I realised nowhere on the Internet properly described the types like this so yes, I'm proud.
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    Feel free to discuss it openly pussy. Don't be Castin Jr.
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    The reason i'm not speaking about it openly is bc what i do has implications for things i don't want to talk about... that literally have nothing to do with you @poly... I'm already saying too much by saying that. Just understand you really aren't understanding why i say what i say. I can tell you that you're wrong in what you think i mean by it. I guess this will be too much again, but there are psychological concepts i like to practice online. Wylted whole situation was perfect practice in interrogations and lying: And it goes deeper than just this. 
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    I thought that was well done and informative, didn't someone post a test on DDO?  Seems I took one on there, anyway cool beans.