Alpha vs. Beta

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    Lamba vs Beta Continued

    Let's do the naming thing first.

    Beta males on DarC (this term is severely negatively portrayed by the media and by people like Outplayz, it's not negative it's one of many variants, to be honest it is kind of negative like the Gamma male is but this is my honest observation)...

    PGA2.0, secularmerlin and SamStevens.

    Beta females on the site include WarriorQueenForever but no other prominent female member that I know of on this site is one.

    The idea behind the Beta's ethos is possibly the single most misportrayed and misunderstood concept in the history of humankind. Betas are natural audience members. They are not natural servants. This is extremely important to understand because until you realise that none of these types other than the Lambda, willingly serve and giggle while doing it, you won't understand why Betas feel continually humiliated and jeered for what they are. Betas are first Deltas. No one is born Beta. My theory on this is that the Delta that realises there's many dominant, interesting humans out there to watch, listen to and go along with ends up becoming Beta. On the other hand, if the being simply goes 'meh, others aren't every that great but I do like going with the flow' they end up being Deltas. Betas do not 'go with the flow' they do not 'serve alphas' they actively seek out alphas to entertain them. Beta humans are not weak for being what they are, in fact none of these types are weak for being what they are. Betas are built to thoroughly yearn for a 'show', for a 'battle' but not ever one involving them. Shit-stirrers can be Sigmas, Gammas or Betas but the Beta does it out of compulsion... They just love it. They don't mean to hurt people, they mean to enjoy a show is all. The Beta tends to be consistently inconsistent. Unlike any other type, the Betas actually have the most variance, not least variance, among them. A beta's upbringing, information they came across as children... Education... All of that, is almost entirely what shapes their worldview and opinions. They actively enjoy taking in things and not questioning them, "why fight what is likely from something wiser and more entertaining than I am?" asks the Beta on a daily basis. They don't submit out of fear, they submit out of truly enjoying the path of least resistance. Cowards? That's suggesting we are supposed to be brave. Sigmas are (it rhymes) enigmas in that they are able to be both confrontational and yet cunning deep down. Sigmas, Gammas and Betas all are coward-variants whereas alphas, omegas and zetas are brave-variants with alphas and omegas being brash-flavoured-brave and zetas being passive-aggressive-brave.

    I don't follow. Are you making an analogy of different worldviews, Beta being Christian?
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    K first off, stop tagging me in stupid shit. 

    Second, "Alphas seek constant praise as an addiction. They can't be out of the spotlight" clearly doesn't apply to me since I am on here maybe once every four days now, and thats mostly just to see whats going on these days without actually posting anything... I'm not to try to be at the center of anything nor seek constant praise. 

    Third, if you want a good look at what someone who 'seeks constant praise as an addiction' looks like, look around for the guy who posts a goodbye thread for a 2 day ban, posts a thread on the main forum announcing in all caps that he was unbanned from a site that is effectively dead, and proclaims himself the best debater on a site on like day 3 of its existence.... 



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    He is doing nothing so grand. It's just hate speech in disguise so the mods don't ding him. 
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    The entire idea of "alpha" or "beta" humans is completely fallacious.
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    I always used beta as an insult. Philosophically thinking about it... that's how i came up with the top crap i wrote. It doesn't make sense to me either. I will stick to calling pussies beta and non-pussies alphas. That's how i define it anyways. 
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    This is surprisingly accurate, though important facts and names were omitted.
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    My mind is frequently accurate these days. The "surprise" is you realising it. Thanks you alpha 2faced old friend of mine. Maybe rm and yyw end up allied again some day. 
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    There are two kinds of people in this world. Those who place everyone into one of two categories and those who don't.
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    Twoman, do you agree or disagree that you're a Zeta male?
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    I believe that I exhibit traits from almost any category you might mention.
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    A zeta male is used for men who have rejected the traditional expectations associated with being a man- a provider, defender, and protector. He rejects stereotypes and doesn't conform to traditional beliefs. He marches to the beat of his own drum and refuses to be seduced and shamed by anyone.

    The term zeta male first appeared on the Internet in 2010. The appearance of the zeta male in the hierarchy of men has a lot more to do with what is known as Men Going Their Own Way.
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    I would say that a zeta partially describes me. I wouldn't say that I've completely rejected traditional expectations associated with being a man though. I still consider myself a provider and protector.
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    I would say that a zeta partially describes me. I wouldn't say that I've completely rejected traditional expectations associated with being a man though. I still consider myself a provider and protector.
    Ive mostly financially provided for myself and protected myself.  Occasionally have stepped outside those parameters/bound for family and friends.

    Politically Ive stepped outside those bounds/parameter for years.

    beta particle = high energy via high speed electron aka ionizing radiation
    ...damaging to biological tissue

    alpha particle = 2 protons and two neutrons as helium aka ioniszing radiation
    ...damaging to biological tissue----

    zeta potential = ..."The zeta potential is a key indicator of the stability of colloidal dispersions.
    ....The magnitude of the zeta potential indicates the degree of electrostatic repulsion between adjacent, similarly charged particles in a dispersion. For molecules and particles that are small enough, a high zeta potential will confer stability, i.e., the solution or dispersion will resist aggregation."....


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    The problem is when beta, or lower status males grow resentful of their place in the hierarchy but nevertheless are given positions of relatively meaningless levels of power and significance, and who then try to assert themselves in passive aggressive ways that wind up hurting the system overall.  A prime example of this would be in bureaucratic or administrative positions.  Suppose you give someone a title or position that's fairly innocuous but it is "more" power than they've held before.  Now, the person who was previously relegated to the status of "accepting what he must" from his superiors has the ability to use his position to hurt others.

    An excellent example of how this might manifest would be in selectively enforcing rules.  So, suppose further that a beta male got his chance to punish an alpha with a regulatory sanction, like a suspension from an activity or a fine.  Perhaps other alphas with whom the particular beta in charge do the same thing that one specific alpha with whom the beta-in-power has a problem.  The beta ignores these developments, but nevertheless when the particular alpha does the same thing the beta "enforces" the rules to punish the one alpha who he wishes to seek revenge upon.

    Is this fair?  No.  Of course it is not, but this is what beta males do when given power.  
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    An entire bureaucracy comprised of pure alphas would probably work perfectly.