Top 10 problems completely solved with Government Spending.

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  1. Ensuring American political and economic superpower advantages
  2. Providing the basic public goods and services of 21 century civilization, such as clean water, sanitation, and education
  3. Protecting the rights and freedoms of citizens through democratic institutions and the rule of law
  4. Promoting economic development and job creation through fiscal and monetary policies
  5. Reducing poverty and inequality through social welfare programs 
  6. Protecting the environment and natural resources for future generations
  7. Managing and regulating natural disasters, such as floods and earthquakes
  8. Maintaining infrastructure, such as roads, bridges, and transportation systems
  9. Providing access to healthcare and addressing public health issues
  10. Promoting international relations and cooperation with other countries.

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Reducing poverty and inequality through social welfare programs 
Those actually increase poverty by making people reliant on government. I know in theory it is nice to throw money at problems but it doesn't help. If Laissez-faire capitalism were attempted it would virtually eliminate poverty. https://www.cato.org/commentary/more-welfare-more-poverty

Promoting international relations and cooperation with other countries.
How would that directly benefit the United States?

Ensuring American political and economic superpower advantages
Not necessary. We don't need to be a superpower we just need to make sure our people are living great lives. 

Providing the basic public goods and services of 21 century civilization, such as clean water, sanitation, and education
Couod be accomplished better with a night's watchman type state with no noticable difference or potentially superior to what is done now in theory 

Protecting the rights and freedoms of citizens through democratic institutions and the rule of law
Rule of law and rights are important but democratic rights are stupid. If 90% of people voted to enslave midgets, it wouldn't make it right. I personally prefer a constitutional republic over a society that values democracy. Which we all know when liberals say it is code for voting out the bill of rights.

Promoting economic development and job creation through fiscal and monetary policies
Laissez-faire capitalism would do a superior job of it. Economic intervention often has negative effects

Protecting the environment and natural resources for future generations
Not really, we do have environmental regulations but the usual result is just exporting those environmental problems to factories in china which could care less. I believe there are solutions for those things that don't involve unethical methods the government currently uses, unethical methods which are inferior to anything I would suggest.

Providing access to healthcare and addressing public health issues
We had more access to healthcare before government intrusion into it. 

Managing and regulating natural disasters, such as floods and earthquakes
I would rather have a community where you pay maybe a 10% fee to join the community and several communities pool funds together that would result in a type of disaster insurance that would kind of replace that and do the same thing. 
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What do you think of my suggestion above to replace government spending with some sort of grouped citizen fund for natural disaster relief? 
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I would perhaps to pay for roads just have citizens pay maybe a fee everytime they fill up the tank "because that would indicate they use the road" . Or maybe I would set up a recurring subscription service for road use that comes out of their paycheck. There is no need to get the government involved 
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Socially service is easy. You just replace it with filial responsibility laws
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This is already done. It's a well documented fact that volunteers and private charity groups along with private entrepreneurs are the 1st ones on the ground restoring services way before FEMA actually does anything. it can take many months for anything FEMA does to take effect.
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I know in theory it is nice to throw money at problems but it doesn't help.
If Laissez-faire capitalism were attempted it would virtually eliminate poverty.  democratic rights are stupid
  • Yes, we know you miss slavery but that institution is dangerously unstable and morally reprehensible.
How would that directly benefit the United States?
  • peace, commerce, cooperation on global problems
We don't need to be a superpower we just need to make sure our people are living great lives. 
  • No but we'd be a little poorer and a little less safe, which you would be the first to bitch about.
Couod be accomplished better with a night's watchman
  • Nightwatchmen don't build bridges, sewers, etc
We had more access to healthcare before government intrusion into it. 
  • Profoundly ignorant lie
I would rather have a community where you pay maybe a 10% fee to join the community and several communities pool funds together that would result in a type of disaster insurance that would kind of replace that and do the same thing. 
  • In other words, you'd rather most communities lie rotting in ruins


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Yes, we know you miss slavery but that institution is dangerously unstable and morally reprehensible.
Actually it would result in more workers rights and virtually eradicate poverty. 

No but we'd be a little poorer and a little less safe, which you would be the first to bitch about.
We would not be less safe, why do people think this. If you keep to yourself than nobody has any reason to attack you at all. If anything it makes us more safe and no I couldn't possibly be more poor.

In other words, you'd rather most communities lie rotting in ruins
How would dedicating a portion of everyone in a communities paycheck to disaster relief harm their ability to respond to disasters? Especially when you are pooling money from multiple communities who want to benefit from disaster relief? 

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How would dedicating a portion of everyone in a communities paycheck to disaster relief harm their ability to respond to disasters? Especially when you are pooling money from multiple communities who want to benefit from disaster relief? 
Logically, no person would willingly donate to the Red Cross voluntarily if FEMA could do the exact same job with extorted taxes.
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If you keep to yourself than nobody has any reason to attack you at all. 
  • Tell that to the Abenaki, the Japanese, the Aborigines
How would dedicating a portion of everyone in a communities paycheck to disaster relief harm their ability to respond to disasters? Especially when you are pooling money from multiple communities who want to benefit from disaster relief? 
  • collecting funds is difficult since funds don't usually have eviction or enforcement powers, the best they can do is sue which quickly becomes a negative drain on fund.  Adding to property tax is usually most efficient.  Eventually all the Republicans don't pay thier dues and the Feds bail them out anyway.
  • major target for fraud, abuse.  Tend to have little state/fed regulation oversight
  • distributions tend to be subjective and inequitable favoring trustees and board members' interests.  Year-round residents favored over seasonal residents, etc.
  • Hard to predict specific cases.  Say,  a beach house gets burned down by a forest fire and wants access to a disaster fun intended for hurricanes.  
  • Funds like this tend to get spent in courtrooms rather than rebuilding.  
  • A lot of disaster insurance funding tends to get wasted in the same way.  BIg govt disaster funding tends to be more efficient, objective, equitable, and intelligently spent.  Small govt tends to be very good at local response to repeated problems and mostly poorly prepared for unexpected events.


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All problems easily solved by removing money from the human social system.

Money and it's distribution, is the problem.

Well, actually humans are the major drawback of the human social system.

Money and it's distribution is nothing more than a metaphor for human nature.
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Hope government fund my education and leisure. Definitely one of the things the government spending can do.
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If a person is worth less than $300 million why would they even want to live?
If you can't afford a Bugatti La Voiture Noire what is the point of life?
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  BIg govt disaster funding tends to be more efficient, objective, equitable, and intelligently spent.
Big government has big brain. Small government has small brain. We are dealing with oromagii's great logic here. Origami didnt make this up in desperation of not having an argument. It is the truth. We should give orogami a medal. He will make us all rich through government funding. I just hope it happens in the next 50 years. Help us orimagi please help us!
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Laissez-faire capitalism would do a superior job of it. Economic intervention often has negative effects
In a country with LF capitalism, blue collar workers would likely end up half starved and living in a rented trailer home.

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What do you think of my suggestion above to replace government spending with some sort of grouped citizen fund for natural disaster relief? 
How would you protect this fund from misappropriation?

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How would you protect this fund from misappropriation?
Every fund managed by the government gets misappropriated at some point.

Every time. 

Misappropriation is a feature of government spending, not a bug.