America should not thrive on diversity.

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If super intelligent AI robots are white what does that tell you?
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The issue with this is that "freedom" is just an abstract principle. It can't suddenly unite different peoples who have real, concrete differences.
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The problem with the word “diversity” is that it is loaded language. The definition being:

“the practice or quality of including or involving people from a range of different social and ethnic backgrounds and of different genders, sexual orientations, etc.”

Sounds nice enough. But what exactly is “including or involving”? Inviting them to cocktail parties? It really means to institute preferences in job and university selection based upon certain underrepresented immutable characteristics rather than merit. It means doing away with the concept of meritocracy, calling it a myth, not just in the past, but impossible to attain in the future as well. 

Rather than doing away with social hierarchies as it purports to do, it merely seeks to create a different one— one where heterosexual, cisgender white males (especially older ones, aka “male, pale, and stale”) are at the bottom, and a black Muslim lesbian in a wheelchair might be at the top.

Now, it’s bad enough when selection based on immutable group identity is used in university faculties and government hiring for various administrative work, but it is much more dangerous in the near term when it creeps into health and safety capacities.

When combined with the concept of equity as it often is, it pushes not for equality, not for equal opportunity, but for equality of outcome based on immutable characteristics.

The result of all this? Our current vice president.

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The result of all this? Our current vice president.
Plus the current presidential cabinet. The most diverse in all of history.
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@YouFound_Lxam
What do you do in your ever day life to "celebrate diversity"?

Or do you just yell at politicians, and people online to do it, while you sit around living your normal life?
Youins remember when you was learning us about Christianity Bubba?

Well, turns out it ain't just for braggin, I hear tell it also is about how to treat others and what not, check it out.

Leviticus 19:18, Matthew 22:39, Mark 12:31, Luke 10:27, James 2:8

And theys more Bubba, ya'll should read the Bible and see.
In case you done got confused, when I says Bible, I ain't talking The Turner Diaries, I was meanin the other Bible.
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If super intelligent AI robots are white what does that tell you?
No, AI bots do not wear Klan robes.
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Diversity means hire less qualified people to appease other peoples sense of virtue  be damned the result or outcome.
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you said they were white
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@Dr.Franklin
The issue with this is that "freedom" is just an abstract principle. It can't suddenly unite different peoples who have real, concrete differences.
Especially because he isn't talking about freedom uniting different peoples, he's talking about the freedom to exclude and oppress people who are different.
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No he isn't. His idea of freedom is a liberal utopian idea that can never work
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Simply put, when nations base themselves on diversity, they open the doors for "tribal" like groups of people with different beliefs, races, and ethnicities to separate and not work together, therefore creating a society where no one gets along. 
Kid, you are a moron.

Couldn’t prove his factually accurate statement wrong, so you throw an ad hominem at him. 🙄

What he said is factually accurate. We’ve been witnessing for more than a decade; and it’s precisely why blacks (and other minorities) self-segregate from anyone and everyone outside of their racial group. 
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he's talking about the freedom to exclude and oppress people who are different.
If you force people to be free, it isn't freedom. If you force people to be diverse, it isn't diversity.

It's oppression in both cases.
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ad hominem
Greatest hits on the moron parade!

China built a Great Wall and shunned diversity.

Rome embraced and encouraged new ideas and people. They welcomed diversity and adopted the best ideas and practices when they came across them

Which empire was more successful?

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china.
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😂 You just proved the kids point. 🤣
Now who is the “moron”!!! 
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They welcomed diversity...
Lol, no they didn't Rome conquered the barbarian cultures, established military outposts, and forced them to learn Latin and use Roman Numerals if they wanted to trade with them..https://antigonejournal.com/2021/05/short-history-roman-currency/

When they finally did welcome the Barbarians at the gates at the end, it was because their Empire was already de-unified and weak with no common purpose.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Division is not something we should be promoting, and instead we should be uniting as one nation, under the basic believe and right that we all hold dear. Freedom.
Libetarians hold freedom dear; liberals and conservatives do not.
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@Greyparrot
They welcomed diversity so long as those taken in could be effectively forced into Roman culture. 
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Amen.
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As usual your clueless OGP.

King Cyrus created the first great empire, the Persian Empire, and united many religions in peace and harmony, LINK  and remained that way until Alexander the Great destroyed the unification of peace and harmony. .."The Persian Empire, also known as the Achaemenid Empire, lasted from approximately 559 B.C.E. to 331 B.C.E."...

..."In the most widely-known example of benevolence ever recorded, … after conquering Babylon Cyrus allowed the Judeans to return to Jerusalem – along with the sacred relics the Babylonians had stolen – and (even) encouraged them to rebuild the temple King Nebuchadnezzar had destroyed.”....

I watched this most interesting utube today called ' Mcgegor: 2600 years of One Object'. A cylindrical tablet with carvings of King Cyrus declaration. McGregor explains this history of interpretations very clearly. Smart man.
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There is no comparison between the Roman Empire and the Chinese … well, just China.
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COVID was an excellent chance to bring everyone together but the left wanted to use it to hurt Trump and unfortunately the right behaved in a reactionary way which also drove division. COVID was supposed to be the next generation's 9/11
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@Sidewalker
Youins remember when you was learning us about Christianity Bubba?

Well, turns out it ain't just for braggin, I hear tell it also is about how to treat others and what not, check it out.

Leviticus 19:18, Matthew 22:39, Mark 12:31, Luke 10:27, James 2:8

And theys more Bubba, ya'll should read the Bible and see.
Good, you quoted scripture.

That doesn't explain what you do to "celebrate diversity."
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If you hadn't noticed, we are now in the techno-age.

Wherein the Earth has a singular global community.

You have to move quickly to keep up these days, or loose touch.

And so, old people go to war to fight old peoples wars.
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Simply put, when nations base themselves on diversity, they open the doors for "tribal" like groups of people with different beliefs, races, and ethnicities to separate and not work together, therefore creating a society where no one gets along. 
Kid, you are a moron.

Couldn’t prove his factually accurate statement wrong, so you throw an ad hominem at him. 🙄

What he said is factually accurate. We’ve been witnessing for more than a decade; and it’s precisely why blacks (and other minorities) self-segregate from anyone and everyone outside of their racial group. 
 Maybe this sentence is some kind of code that only racists understand.  The manchild couldn't explain, maybe you can translate, what exactly did we start doing differently ten years ago that is referred to with "nations base themselves on diversity".   What actions would we be doing differently is westopped being a nation based on diversity?  Please don't just say diversity, or define diversity, the country was diverse 20 years ago, and it's still diverse today.  What we need to know is what are talking about when you say our big mistake of basing the nation on diversity, what did we start doing differently ten years ago, and since you guys see it as the source of out problems, what would you have us do to stop being a country that bases itself on diversity.
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COVID was an excellent chance to bring everyone together but the left wanted to use it to hurt Trump and unfortunately 
We should have listened to Trump and cleaned the lungs with disinfectant 

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 COVID was supposed to be the next generation's 9/11

Well it was. People banded together and gave Big Pharma a ton of money, like they donated to the rich after 9/11 in Iraq.