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You know that I'm Schrödinger, don't you?
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Are you two dimensional?

Are thoughts two dimensional?

Or just a dimension?

One of many perhaps.
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@EbucI've never stated that triangles are not more stable than squares, after all I'm a keen cyclist.
Huh? WTF? Of course its not you stating that 3 as triangle represents structural integrity, and squares the non-structural integrity.  It has beem me making these repeated comments.

Your confused at best Zed, and at worse, just playing mind games to avoid the obivous truths of my comments as presented to save face/ego.

It was you who put forward the concept of exotic transformations.

Yeah so what? When you going to read what Ive stated and restated for clarity in regards to VE { squares vanish and triangle } remain when the VE transforms into 7 or more exotic shapes/geometries/patterns?

You missing the boat of comments and presentation by about 10 miles or more Zed. You must be too busy to actually read with any attempt at comprehensive understandinig.  Your shorts are as bad as Debs long and uneccessary rehtoric is.

You both remain clueless to most of what ive presented
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Number 7 is combination of 3 { prime cosmic number of structural integrity ex a 2D area of a triangle is three diagonals ---that encloses and area of space--- and the minimal 2D diagonalzied structural integrity }, and number 4 { square area } is representative of systemic integrity, since it is as a square, it has no diagonals and is allowed a no structural integrity yet allows for high degree of transformability with geometric setting. See jitterbug LINK

And whereas I my Cosmic Trinary Set  and subsets is based on 3, Arthur Young who begain with counting number #1, to arrive at his seven level Reflexive Universe,

I began with non-counting number #0 and the inverted the four line levels. Arthur never did that. Here again is LINK to Arthurs Reflexive Universe and his Theory of Process
https://arthuryoung.com/books/the-reflexive-universe/
Here is LINK to Arthurs thoughts and XYZ-time using his 7 color coded torus


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It is an area which we call . . . the Twilight Zone.
Or its called something else that involves hexagonal patterning in the brain, ergo, a frequency of brain cell events. Go 4:34 in the vid.

There is another vid on this some discovery hexagonal patterning celluar events, on a torus --similar to my quantum space-time torus---   that Ive posted a few times at DArt and elsewhere for last 6 months.  Here it is. These two people one nobel prize for there discoveries.

"Time is the only dimension........in synergetics time is frequency " B Fuller.

All of occupied space is time/motion/frequency of events, that, come in three primary types:

1} Spirit-2 physical reality ergo observed{ quantised } time ergo fermionic matter and bosonic forces, --with sine-wave pattering associations /\/\/

2} Spirit-3, Meta-physical Gravity, ---mass-attractive/contractive and positive shaped patterning (  )---,

3} Spirit-4, Meta-phyiscal Dark Energy, ---expansive/dissassociative and negative shaped patterning )( --.

The positive and negative shaped patterings of Spirit-2 and Spirit-3 are the diametric opposite outer and inner surfaces of a torus. (   )(   )via a bisected view of a torus.

My numerical explorations of prime numbers led me to the above tororidal conclusions via the same four level/line process Arthur Young used, but I started with non-counting number 0, and then inverted the four lines/levels.

1} the original pattern was regular symmeterical,

2} the inverted pattern was irregular and asymetrical,

3} led to the internal body of a torus --not just outer and inner surface set of events---  , that defines a sine-wave pattterning ergo physical reality /\/\/ or as ^v^v^v.
....this latter is associated with a triangulated set of numbers that began with 0, then 3p, 6 { hexagonal }, 9, 12, 15, 18 { 18 quarks and 18 anti-quarks of Universe }....


First below is the inverted irregular asymmetrical pattern I discovered and there is repeating pattern of overlapping hexagonal patterning
0,1,5p,6,4,2p - nucleus 3, then 3p, 5p,7p,9,8,4 - nucleus 6 so and so on

....1.........................5p..........7p.......................11p....Gravity
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0......................................6.......................................observed time reality
.................3p......................................9....................observed time reality
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...........2p.........4............................8..........1o...............Dark Energy

2nd below is the original regular symmetrical pattern I discovered in my exploration of prime number and similar to Arthur Youngs approach, except I begin with non-counting 0

0............................................6.............................................12..................
......1..............................5p...........7p...........................11p........13p............
............2p..............4............................8.............10...........................14....
.....................3p.........................................9.............................................15
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Humans arrived at the conclusion that two tringles was the best bicycle frame design.

Obviously with circular wheels.
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So, the three-dimensional space we experience could have formed from 10 dimensions, just as superstring theory predicts.
When XYZ is is abc, then d is the 45 degree volumetric/body diagonal { /  } of 90 degree cube, aka as the first dimension of hyper-space. See Micho Kaku's Hyper-space book. ..."We call these ripples gravity and light"...Micho Kaku https://mkaku.org/home/articles/hyperspace-and-a-theory-of-everything/

This d diagonal intersects to vertexial corner of a cube inside the outer cube.  [    [  ]    ] i.e is  texticonic version of cube inside of cube.
{#4}....that there are 10 dimensions. That’s nine of space and one of time.......

Hyper-dimensions at best, is just ultra-micro scales of existence. Gravity  and Dark Energy

If we ake 8 diagonals from the 8 corners of  the outer cube, to the inner cube, then we have eight, 45 degree hyper-dimensions and the three XYZ,  90 degree dimensions. That totals 11 spatial dimensions plus 1 of time is 12, ergo, it is obvious my approach here above does that match with those in line #4 and the above link.

If Meta-space time { abstract frequency }  is the only dimension via occupied space motion ex spin, torque, expansion-contraction, inside-outing, precession, orbit, then may we say that observed  { quantised } time is a 3D vector having magnitude and a direction?

I think so, and that vector is 3D trajectory of varying pulsations with the tube of a quantum space-time torus, as found below in its semi-2D lattice format/patterning:

...1.........................5p..........7p.......................11p.........13p.....................17p.......Gravity
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0......................................6.......................................12.....................................18..observed { quantised } time reality
.................3p......................................9.......................................15.........................observed { quantised } time reality
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...........2p.........4............................8..........10.........................14........16.....................Dark Energy

I take note of the 18 on top peak of sine-wave { 0, 3, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18 } associated physical reality, and there exists 18 combinations of quark and 18 combinations of anti-quark in Universe.

The minimal quantum pulse is ...' The quantum of Gravity is the graviton and it co-existentlycomplementarity with Dark Energies quantum darkEon i.e. they are thetwo sides of the same torus. Together they are comprised of fourteen, 2Dnodal events, and a total of 91 lines-of-relationship.
14^2 = 196……196 - 14 = 182……182 / 2 = 91lines-of-relationship '.....

This fourteen nodal events associated with a definition of a truncated --truncated graphic not shown--- on two ends, a  triangular, di-pyramid i.e. to tetrahedra sharing a common triangular face/hedra/opening, that has 5 vertexes. LINK

Once the triangular di-pyramid is truncated, we have defined a tube, via three triangular openings and that is nine vertexial events. In the four level/line lattice pattern above on this page, we define this tube with a set of three surface nodal events ----1 - 2p - 4.....5p - 7p - 8......10 - 11p - 13p -----and that leaves 5 nuclear nodal events inside  the tube { 0, 3, 6, 9, 12 ], defined by those three sets { totals 9 } of surface { 4-inner and 5-outer } nodal events, ergo a total of 14 nodal events as a single, 3D quantum of space and time as a pulsation.

However, this ultra-micro { hyper } scale of existence, cannot ever be isolated out as a quantum, because, the level/line that 13p is on does not curve around to synch the initiaing-nodal-event of zero { 0 }.  We have  to go to the nodal event 18, in order to have a synching of 18/0 and that is the our first sychcing that includes the 13p set of which is 14 nodal events of the truncated di-pyramid with nuclear set of 5 nodal events.

And again, that is 91 lines-of-relationship to define the ultra-micro, and minimal graviton-darkEon, quantum of space { outer and inner surface set } and time { inside body sine-wave } set.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&sxsrf=APwXEdcZ64_ilg5hPrS_6mByIJuLIlCDFg:1683551097511&q=triangular+dipyramid&tbm=isch&source=univ&fir=70OtvMN7lpAWFM%252CK4-dIuw4_JCnBM%252C_%253BQ9Fu972I7kd_6M%252CVQKxabdry76ZvM%252C_%253BUMaXWQHu2QMecM%252CK4-dIuw4_JCnBM%252C_%253BVJ-BMXRILYuNbM%252CMTIx9NOvB9_VtM%252C_%253BMoWqPBxnYgLn3M%252CnIeY60ya2KqRXM%252C_%253BXfyOYh4nkl9e5M%252CBNmBp5nWTpxTNM%252C_%253BVUjkr2Scw_wXhM%252CBgVdLk-I4Lz1HM%252C_%253BDc3plD3_ETfJkM%252CWUlYOLZpcMLG2M%252C_%253BsyEMtGYLpI58EM%252Ck7Ep3XdOQZ-NvM%252C_%253BzrTIrUyI2nWR5M%252C29vO672DGCuxmM%252C_%253BdnViHm-UsTvLxM%252CihQAyGLPepKTgM%252C_%253BpB_gJYzlr2FmvM%252CBaebv4nOnNeKAM%252C_%253Bex4fM2rjemx1oM%252C_aAhSXZf8Z1aKM%252C_%253BWWDOwsSRpJT2pM%252CnIeY60ya2KqRXM%252C_%253B-_LquTs5NfIegM%252Chq_20v9AsB8-IM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kR9NSR6cE-dFyXJSqXQbFvi-3RaRg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj2-4LJ5OX-AhVslIkEHdeICW0QjJkEegQICBAC&biw=1313&bih=586&dpr=1

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FLRW, since my approach in post 68 is obviously not proper accounting of 10 dimensional hyper-cube. I thought of another way that appears to make more logical sense.

We 3D, cartesian 90 degree,  XYZ cube or as Kaku presents in his book Hypers-space replaces XYZ with abc-d.  The d being the 45 degree volumetric/body diagonal { / } between outer abc cube in inner cube vertex to vertex.  Putting aside that some graphics of this move the inner cube so as it is also has a 45 degree skewed orientation to the outer cube, I want to keep it more simple than that.

Please try and follow this rather simple approach to a 9 spatial hyper cube, that  concludes with us being at ultra-micro scales of existence of the planck legnth 20^-33 or perhaps less for the graviton { 10^-36 }. This latter being close to 36 zeros on negative side of base-line zero ex:

0.00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 is ultra-micro existence

So I again begin with the, 3D { abc } 90 degree caratesian cube, then the first section of the d diagonal { / } goes to the first inner cube and let us say that is at 1/6th distance of 10^-36. Since 6 * 6 =s 36, we may say that, our first d diagonal is has 6 zeros on negative side associated with it. 0.0000001

So from first inner cube, we follow the same d diagonal to the next inner cube. Now we double the number of zeros to 12. {  0.000000... 000000...1 } were now at 10^-12th or there abouts.

So next we go the third section ---ergo the third inner hyper-cube--- of d diagonal and the 4th cube has, another 6 zeroes added to it, to total as 18 zeros. 0.00 00 00... 00 00 00... 00 00 00   and were at 10^-18th of micro-existence.

Next the 4th d diagonal and inner hyper-cube at 10^-24th scales of existence.  0.000.... 000......000.... 000.......000... 000.....000... 000...1

Next the fifth section of the same d diagonal to the fifth inner hyper-cube and 30 zeroes i.e. 10^-30.   0.00 00 00.....00 00 00......00 00 00.......00 00 00.......00 00 00...1

So we began with outer cube abc { 3D }, and were now adding the 6th additional d diagonal section to the ultra-micro hyper-cube at 10^-36 and this means we now have abc { 3D } plus 6 dimensions of hyper-space via 6 sections and 6 inner hyper-cubes ex:

outer 3D cube >[      >      [       >     [     >     [    >    [  >   [  >  []  <   ]   <   ]    <   ]     <       ]    <     ]     <     ]< outer 3D cube

[] = ultra-micro { 10^-36 ] dimension of hyper-space i.e. 35 zeros and then 1. Approximately, I'm not much of mathematician so I get confused how many zeros it is each side of the base-line. 10^36 is followed by 36 zeroes ergo, 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

10^-36 = ultra-micro and perhaps gravitonic scales of existence we now go six sections of the d diagonal

0.00 00 00....00 00 00.....00 00 00.....00 00 00.....00 00 00 .....00 00 00..1 

And this means, that any 3D torus i'm referencing for depicting the 14 nodal graviton, is going to have a frequency of cycles beginning   with number 1 to 5p, then around again to 11p, then 17p as the cyclic frequency this spiraling toroidal tube is probably no less than 10^33 cycles as frequency, since that is a proposed in some areas of physics with the smallest value fermionic matter a specific neutrino.

...1.........................5p..........7p.......................11p.........13p.....................17p.......Gravity
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0......................................6.......................................12.....................................18..observed { quantised } time reality
.................3p......................................9.......................................15.........................observed { quantised } time reality
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...........2p.........4............................8..........10.........................14........16.....................Dark Energy





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Can you speak in laymen terms what you mean by time being the only dimension? And are you talking about quantum gravity? I’m unable to distinguish between truth and nonsense with you.
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Can you speak in laymen terms what you mean by time being the only dimension? And are you talking about quantum gravity? I’m unable to distinguish between truth and nonsense with you.
The topic is based on B Fullers words, not mine.  It makes logical common sense if use critical thinking also.

All of finite, eternally existent, occupied space Universe is in motion and  transformation. This is time and physical reality being specific to observed { quantised } time.

If there is a non-layman term Ive used you dont grasp please be specific.
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Why can’t you say space is the only dimension?  
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Why can’t you say space is the only dimension?

Because,  there exists two primary kinds of Space:

1} the eternally existent, macro-infinite, and truly non-occupied space, that, embraces the following set,

2} the eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe and it has three primary sub-catagories,

.........Spirit-2 physical reality is composed of fermions and bosons that are both quantised by humans,

..........Spirit-3 is Meta-physical { not quantised } Gravity (   ),

...........Spirit-4 is Meta-physical { not quantised }

--------------conceptual line-of-demarcation----------------------------

Spirit-1 is Met-space i.e. abstract mind/intellect/concepts and ego { i } i.e. concepts of Space, Time, God, Pigs, etc and not an actual space, occupied or truly non-occupied. Understand the above Reece? 
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I find it interesting that all  of my givens in this topic are similar to the findings of the brain cell relationships found below, that, Ive been posting for some  months now.
Nobel winning scientist discover torus and hexagonal aspects of brain

.." where abstract mathematics meets neurons...brain uses a torus to navigate physical systems "

Go to 3:21 for the first rereferenc hexagonal grids in the brain.

There is also another LINk regarding these above findings and others involved with the research. Go to 4;50 or just before for the first references.

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Do you yourself even understand what you’ve been posting? Are you sure it’s because there are multiple kinds of space? it’s like saying fish aren't true because there are multiple kinds of fish. Are you sure it’s not because you’re thinking under a specific framework when it comes to time?
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Do you yourself even understand what you’ve been posting?
If there is something you dont grasp, you can be specific and ask.

Are you sure it’s because there are multiple kinds of space?

Read my lips/text as presented. Can you do that? Two primary kinds of space.  Then I went on to three primary  sub-catories of occupied space. Re-read and make attempt to grasp what is clearly presented. Simple not complex to grasp.

it’s like saying fish aren't true because there are multiple kinds of fish.

Huhh? Your confused and not addressing the specific of what I stated clearly. Place ego to side and address specifics. If invalid then offer logical common sense critical thinking why. If you have something that adds to my givens, then again offer logical common sense critical thinking. Please place ego to side, and search for truth.

Are you sure it’s not because you’re thinking under a specific framework when it comes to time?

Huhh? Read my lips/text as presented and address those specifics.  You have yet to do that. PLease share when you have something that does that invalidates or adds to my givens as presented. Few ever have and even fewer did so with logical common sense critical thinking.
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......So we began with outer cube abc { 3D }, and were now adding the 6th additional d diagonal section to the ultra-micro hyper-cube at 10^-36 and this means we now have abc { 3D } plus 6 dimensions of hyper-space via 6 sections and 6 inner hyper-cubes ex:

outer 3D cube >[      >      [       >     [     >     [    >    [  >   [  >  []  <   ]   <   ]    <   ]     <       ]    <     ]     <     ]< outer 3D cube


To clarify in the above for those slow to comprehend the givens. Were going from observed 3D to non-observed ultra-micro cube with these 9 spatial dimensions that FLRW posted regarding superstrings etc.

3D observed [............[..........[.........[......varing scales  [] ultra-micro ......].............].............]......]........]

Abstract hyper-space,  ---in occupied space Universe---, is at best,  ultra-micro scales of existence. With Gravity  (  ) and Dark Energy )(  the most likely candidates to be the smallest scales of occupied space existence. Simple, not complex to grasp
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Did i mention.
Time dimension 
Fit well together  .

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Did i mention. Time dimension  Fit well together 
You do have some creative stuff, and this not a lot of unnecessary rehtoric. Good job Deb!

I mention, that  ti-mension is a di-mension of ti-me and occupied space.







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Yessssssssssssssssssssssssss. 


I did that for a good 3 hours the other night cube.  . 
Did i mention  being in a time dimension  and shit like that.  . 
Hours of fun . 
For me . 

A shout out to the people of the (did i) 
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The reason why one cannot say space is the only dimension is that there are different types of space. One type is the eternally existent, macro-infinite, and truly non-occupied space that embraces all other types of space. The other type is the eternally existent, finite, and occupied space, which has three primary sub-categories. The first sub-category, Spirit-2, is physical reality composed of fermions and bosons that are both quantized by humans. The second sub-category, Spirit-3, is Meta-physical { not quantized } Gravity ( ). The third sub-category, Spirit-4, is Meta-physical { not quantized }. The conceptual line-of-demarcation separates the occupied space from the non-occupied space. Spirit-1 is Met-space, which is an abstract mind/intellect/concept and ego { i } that is not an actual space, occupied or truly non-occupied.

The brain cell relationships found in the torus and hexagonal aspects of the brain suggest that the brain uses a torus to navigate physical systems, and there are hexagonal grids in the brain. These findings are similar to the givens in this topic.
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I believe what ebuc is trying to say is to imagine a 3D cube with sides labeled abc. Now, imagine we add a sixth dimension to the cube, which creates a diagonal section. This sixth dimension is incredibly small, at 10^-36, and is part of hyper-space. This means we now have a cube with 9 spatial dimensions, including the 3D observed dimensions and the 6 dimensions of hyper-space.

This hyper-space exists at an ultra-micro scale, meaning it's incredibly tiny. It's believed that Gravity ( ) and Dark Energy )( are the smallest scales of occupied space existence. Essentially, we're moving from what we can observe in three dimensions to a much smaller scale of existence with nine spatial dimensions, including hyper-space.
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In his book "Hyperspace," Michio Kaku discusses the concept of time in the context of higher dimensions. He argues that time is not a fundamental dimension, but rather an emergent property of the universe. According to Kaku, time emerges as a consequence of the way matter is organized in space.

Kaku also explores the possibility of time travel, which he believes is theoretically possible in higher dimensions. He suggests that by traveling through a higher dimension, one could effectively bypass the limitations of time as we experience it in our three-dimensional world.

Overall, Kaku's view on time is that it is a complex and multifaceted concept that is intimately connected to the structure of the universe. He sees time as an emergent property of the universe that is intimately tied to the way matter is organized in space, and he explores the implications of this idea in his work on hyperspace and higher dimensions.
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For sure, everything might be completely different to how we think it is.

But that is questioning our version of knowledge so far, in comparison to that of a hypothetical reality.

Why should we doubt what we know, in favour of Kaku's hypothesis.

Perhaps thinks are as they seem.
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Perhaps thinks are as they seem.
Einstiens " god doesnt play dice " i.e. no pure randomness, vs Bohrs quantum entanglement { pure randomness }.  The margin for some unknown affect is still there, but much less with latest cosmic Bell test.

I would recommend starting at 32:00 in vid

Spooky-action-at-distance aka quantum entangelment aka super-position of a qubit being both a binary 1 and a 0 at the same time follows in Bells test of 1964 with a new more cosmic test.

My answer has always been that the two entangled particles are precessed -- at 90 degrees + --- to each other ie if particle A-photon is this position, then particle B-photon is always at 90 degrees to the others position.

Precesssion is vertical and horiszontal to each ergo, |--|--|--|---|--|

Visualizing this with my quantum space { (   )(   )  } and time { /\/\/\/ } tori we have the following set of tori, that each set of two tori is at 90 degrees to each other, and were only considering the outer Gravity and inner Dark Energy geodesics and the the sine-wave reality inside:

(  A )( A  )---b---( a )(  a )---b---( a )( a )---B--- the small a and b are the entanglement before measurement at either particle A-photon or B-photon.

There is a seeming problem with my above solution and involves the fact that a photon has a double-set of sine-waves electric { /\/\/ } and magnetic { ---- } that is 90 degrees { + } to each other.  To understand the potential problem and solution we first have to grasp what is single photon is composed of in my cosmic quantum space and time tori scenarios.

This was originally defined by me as my geometric version of the Standard Model of particle physicss using Fullers 73 primary 2D great circles,  that, are consider to be 73 primary, 3D great tori. My quantum space and time tori are composed of 10 { great circles via 10 axis spins } or 4 great tori, as found in the 5-fold icosahedron here LINK

In the above at the 6th set of graphics we see in bold the four of these and they define the 4-fold vector equilibriums four great circles i.e. the 5-fold icosahedrons 10 great circles define 5 overlayed set of the VE defining 4 great circles { tori in my scenarios }

To keep it simple let us say the photon is composed of only 2 or even 4 of the 5 overlayed sets of four { as 3D tori }.  Here is the thing, if you go to the 6th set of graphics we can see the blue vertex of the icosahedron and the blue lines of five of the overlayed VE great circles and they are all at 60 degree orientation to each other, as is normal for the 4-fold VE.

However, we know that the electro-magnetic set of sine-waves are at 90 degrees to each other. There-in lies the problem with my scenario, ergo, I have to adjust by saying that, that the one of the two are dynamicall skewed off from that pure { static ] Euclidean 60 degree orientation, i.e. two of them become locked in at 90 degrees to each other.

To see this entanglement via my set of two 3D tori, we take two tori --that share the same common center of orientation--- and they are at 90 degrees to each other.

Ex (----)(----) so that is the only two tori --as a single photon--  of the potential set of 5, VE tori in the icosahedron. One is vertical one is horizontal. And in this graphic the ----- graphic is also the geodesic curvature of the outer Gravity and inner Dark Energy. I just dont have computing graphic ability to show this clearly. 






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Einstiens " god doesnt play dice " i.e. no pure randomness, vs Bohrs quantum entanglement { pure randomness }.  The margin for some unknown affect is still there, but much less with latest cosmic Bell test.
Well stated.
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Well stated.
I agree. This is has to do with cosmic unknowns that could still effect the latest Bell test in the vid I supplied, that uses photons from quasars that are billion of years old.

A and B are exist in super-position yes, yet that super-position is in fluctuation { 0 and 1 } and the fluctuation ends when the of the two or more particles are quantised { measured/Ping }.

However, there is  never less than one existent in Universe at entropic heat death/beginning. Fuller would have us believe this has to do with there is no ever pure equilibrium of Universe, i.e. Universe can never be less than one positive or one negative tetrahedron existing, in eternally regenerative Universe.

Universe abhors a vacuum and Fuller like to state, that, ..' Universe abhors equilibrium '....


The dynamic and fluctuation is eternally existent in Universe, irrespective of how close it approaches equlibrium, it can only pass through such a phase/state on its way to the next phase/state of its eternally regenerative existence.

/\/\/\/*\/\/\/\_/\/\/\/*\/\/\ etc or as _______^__________v_________^____etc and these latter texticons are associated with invaginations from the ultra-micro, Gravity and Dark Energy geodesics (><)(><).
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If you can't explain it to a six-year-old, then you don't understand it yourself” — Albert Einstein.


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If you can't explain it to a six-year-old, then you don't understand it yourself” — Albert Einstein.
I'm still waiting for you to offer in specific words or phrase by me you dont understand.  You want to play mind games, not have logical, common sense critical thinking disscussion.

Show me the mathematics of general or special relativity that a 6 year can understand? Please show me. None of you quotes is to  invalidate any lack of logical common sense critical thinking on your part.  Please try again with a little more effort on your part. Can you do that? No? I didnt think so

The simplest explaination is the Zen phrase IS.  Well yeah, but if truly want to understand more one has to use more words and eventually complex  mathematics.

Fuller tried to use some simple geometry to explain IS. He also used couple of simple short phrases.

..' all that exists is moderation/modification of angle and frequency '...

..alll that exists appear to be interfering and non-interfering patterns operating in pure principle '....
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Put your ego aside.

Edit: I posted this before I read your edited post.
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Why should we doubt what we know, in favour of Kaku's hypothesis.

My point is that we should recognize that our understanding of the world is limited and subject to interpretation. There may be more to discover, or what we believe to be true could be accurate, but we can never be completely certain. Therefore, it's important to acknowledge that there is always room for further learning and refinement of our understanding.
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I agree with ebuc that some things cannot be simplified for a six-year-old, as I have mentioned before. However, I believe that the level of detail in mathematics can sometimes seem excessive and unnecessary. I have also said, if you don't understand something, how can you claim it's unnecessary.
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What Ebuc discusses is the relationship between Einstein's belief in no pure randomness and Bohr's theory of quantum entanglement in regards to time being a dimension. The author proposes a solution to the problem of a photon having a double-set of sine-waves that are 90 degrees to each other in their scenario involving quantum space and time tori. The latest cosmic Bell test involving photons from billion-year-old quasars has reduced the margin for unknown effects that could still impact the test. It explains that A and B particles exist in superposition, but the superposition is in a state of fluctuation between 0 and 1, which ends when the particles are measured. Furthermore, the passage explains that there is never less than one entity in the universe, even at the entropic heat death or beginning, as the universe can never be in pure equilibrium. Finally, it discusses how dynamic fluctuations are eternally existent in the universe and are associated with invaginations from the ultra-micro, Gravity and Dark Energy geodesics.