FBI conspires with known felons to commit malfeasance.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/27/nyregion/newburgh-four-terrorism-fbi.html

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“A person reading the crimes of conviction in this case would be left with the impression that the offending defendants were sophisticated international terrorists committed to jihad against the United States,” Judge McMahon wrote. “However, they were, in actual reality, hapless, easily manipulated and penurious petty criminals.”

“The F.B.I. invented the conspiracy; identified the targets; manufactured the ordnance,” Judge McMahon wrote, adding that officials had “federalized” the charges — ensuring long prison sentences — by driving several of the men across state lines into Connecticut to “view the ‘bombs.’”

The F.B.I. had no comment on the decision.

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Any comment to the public?

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@Greyparrot

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman."

Oh, you mean something else?

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@FLRW

Interesting. Do you think Jan 6 was a similar FBI action?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHhEwRplV7M

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@Greyparrot

There isn't right-tribe terrorism, but they need there to be right tribe terrorism in order to justify the transition into a police state

So they manufacture terrorists to justify the transformation

...and the irony of it all is that because of their acts of injustice there should be armed resistance against them, I guess they know that which is why they're trying to get ahead of it. Regardless after beating the hope out of enough people someone is going to hit back and then they'll wildly shout "see see, we told you they were violent!"

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It's clear the right tribe was not nearly paranoid enough about what the deep state could do to them.

Jan 6 proved that conclusively. If you go up against the deep state, don't go in with selfies and shaman horns.

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@Greyparrot

Jan 6 proved that conclusively. If you go up against the deep state, don't go in with selfies and shaman horns.

Indeed.

When antifa engaged in insurrection in Seattle they had the forethought to wear black block, and if they hadn't they probably wouldn't have been charged.

As in all wars without veterans and in unprecedented strategic situations the first moves can seem very stupid in retrospect. Humans learn though, and they don't surrender unless overwhelmed with despair or are given an escape path.

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I think it’s good that the courts protect stupid Americans from law enforcement. This is how the system is supposed to work.

I’m sure you feel the same when police go to prison when they kill unarmed black men for no good reason. Right?

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Do you think Jan 6 was a similar FBI action?

Only someone detached from reality would.

Do you think it was Trump appointed FBI Director Shay who organized this massive entrapment sting? But Trump said he only hires the best people.

Did Shay tell everyone to take pictures of themselves and post them to social media? That was brilliant!

I wonder how the FBI got the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers to join in on the scam and then take the fall without even saying in court that they were recruited by the FBI. Or perhaps the FBI used informants to recruit the help of these groups.

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/fbi-proud-boys-jan-6-b2225526.html

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Or perhaps the FBI used informants to recruit for these groups.

Well said.

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So when you cite an article from a British tabloid, do you even bother to note the date it was published? This article is nearly a year old and the legal cases they referenced are already adjudicated and the conspiracy you alluded to was unfounded in the case.

You are a typical conservative, not good at making and supporting a position with facts, or as I said before:

Republican go-to tactics: Fake controversy and the illusion of uncertainty.

Also applies to libertarians

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I’m sure you feel the same when police go to prison when they kill unarmed black men for no good reason. Right?

No response from libertarian GP. I wonder why, lol

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No response from libertarian GP. I wonder why, lol

Race baiting is so 70's. ***yawn***

This article is nearly a year old

So the FBI completely and organically reformed its corruption within a year, on its own, with no external oversight. Nice unicorn.

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@Greyparrot

Trump called for the termination of the Constitution. You agree with him. don't you?

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There is no known record of Donald Trump calling for the termination of the United States Constitution.

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He had it erased?

Former President Trump called for the termination of the Constitution’s rules regarding elections to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election following the release of more detailed information about Twitter’s role in suppressing a story about Hunter Biden.
“A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” Trump said in a Truth Social post.

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“A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,”

The Constitution can be changed. It's also a protected Constitutional right to talk about changing the Constitution because the Constitution is not a death pact.

Also, The United States Constitution has been formally amended 27 times. These amendments include the Bill of Rights (the first ten amendments) and subsequent amendments that address a variety of issues, such as voting rights, the TERMINATON of prohibition law, and the addition of presidential term limits, among others.

Where's the source about elimination?

You didn't fall for a sensational media strawman trap, did you?

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