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@RationalMadman
Now you're taking a suggestion, not a statement of fact, and assuming it was a statement of fact. Hint: "Wouldn't it be a hoot" is supposed to be taken as a wild-haired idea. Who's saddled with fantasy?
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@oromagi
Stream of consciousness. It's what happens with virtually all threads.
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@BrotherDThomas
I have an idea. Let's amass the whole of Christians and put them all in the same bucket; maybe even the bucket you occupy, since you're so sure of your assessment of all Christians, might as well be closely associated with them.
Oh, did someone say everyone is the same, even the finite number of all Christians?
Nope, no one ever said that but our BrotherD, so he must think it's true. Welcome to your bucket. It might be lonelier than you think.
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@Wylted
I don't do youtube, so I will not watch the video, but youtube is hardly a credible source, so I'm wondering why you think Blacks are so weak that they would succumb to rap as a weapon against them? They have more backbone than youtube, probably stronger than yours, so maybe youtube ought to assess its own strength and you, yours. Hint: a 90 pounder comes to mind.
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@RationalMadman
There are highly intelligent psychopaths
Joe Biden is not one of them
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@FLRW
humanism: an outlook or system of thought attaching prime importance to human rather than divine or supernatural matters. Humanist beliefs stress the potential value and goodness of human beings, emphasize common human needs, and seek solely rational ways of solving human problems.
The discovery of truth can be obtained by empirical means, which would align with humanist philosophy, but it is also obtained direct from God by revelation by strictly ultra-human effort. Got to know how to prepare for, and make the sincere effort to ask without doubting an answer is forthcoming.
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@janesix
As said to Sum1hugme in my #7
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@Sum1hugme
By following the advice of James, as cited. Act of faith, which is not the complete synonym of belief. It is much more, and depends on much more dedication than mere belief, as James describes. James 1, the entire chapter, is a worthy read to understand all the implications of applying faith to what is not currently known. Don't knock it without trying it. And keep trying, God wants to know you really want to know. It isn't a casual conversation.
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@Tradesecret
To say that God speaks by frequency of an assurance is also unhelpful. It reveals that God is unable to speak to me in my language.
What does the one, approaching God frequently, and having response, have to do with, and necessarily imply that God cannot speak in any language he chooses to do so.
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@janesix
You cant know even from analyzing the creation, because we have no idea why things were created...How could you?
How? Simple. The set-up is given in the very account of the creation [Genesis], and is concluded by the purpose in Matthew.
Genesis 1: 26. And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Matthew 25: 20 And so he that had received five talents came and brought other five talents, saying, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me five talents: behold, I have gained beside them five talents more.
Matt 25: 21. His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
Earth was created to give us dominion for a wise purpose to allow our growth in understanding how that dominion ought to be practiced - a talent to be gained in a literal sense. Having learned how proper dominion is practiced by investing our time, energy, and talents [yes, that could be, as is demonstrated by the parable of the talents, an investment of money in addition to time and energy], the Creator invites our participation with him in dominion over many more things; not just Earth.
The knowledge of these things is acquired by reading, studying, pondering, and the prayer of faith. Faith is not merely belief, but is an act performed to demonstrate to God our willingness to learn from him. James 1: 2-8 describes the dedication to faith required. Without the application of faith, we are, as said, tossed and not expected to learn anything from the Lord.
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@ebuc
Won't it be a hoot when it is discovered [it will be] that the real insurrectionists of Jan 6 were agents of the FBI and Capitol Police.
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@FLRW
The question is, can a CEO justify his 320-1 advantage, or whatever it may be, given the very real responsibility for the continued success of the company that is on the CEO's shoulders, so they have to be able to justify their income. That you or I may disagree with his assessment is mostly conjecture on our part, because we don't know the details of a given company. But most typical workers have no knowledge of what their contribution is actually worth, because it may have no comparison to what they are paid. It, id, often, a guess by employer and employee. They can; it is knowable information, and I taught my employees how to calculate their worth to the company. How many mangers do that? Not many. I found it easier to counsel with employees when they know how to calculate their contribution to the gross and net bottom line, so the education was worthwhile.
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@dfss9788
You, of course, have the right to your opinion, but I'll tell you for nothing that you read me completely wrong, and always have. I don't think any segregation of races is a prudent ideal for society and I see no purpose in it whatsoever but to foment ignorance and prejudice. IUt is not a matter, to me, of there being a racial reality; I just don 't care about it because it accomplishes noting fruitful to harp about it. The ideal, to me, would be to celebrate our obvious visual diversity, because that is all it should be: visual.
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@BrotherDThomas
“The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found difficult; and left untried.” - G.K. Chesterton
Until it is honestly tried, in total, your accusation of humanism is, itself, incomplete an premature.
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@oromagi
Yes, I get the point, but, given my lefthandedness, I keep the left and right in a proper Jesus perspective, but I swap them, by choice. The strip of TP at the commode is in my right hand, with purpose. Not to mention than in my house [my design], all five bathrooms have the roll at my right hand - again, with purpose.
I'm just saying Biden neither has purpose, nor knows which hand is which, just that the legs are hairy.
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@RationalMadman
That assumes I am manipulated. No, I buy what I want based on my analysis of product/service and seldom by another's influence, though I am aware of the attempt. I read "The Sale Begins When the Customer Says No," and I categorically disagree. When I say no, the conversation has ended at my end. I am a rude hang-up, but that's the truth of it.
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@oromagi
This windsock is full of information, but not the germane point: AZ election officials and Dominion refused subpoena to turn over election equipment and tally results to the AZ Senate. What other con conclusion could be drawn from the lack of that evidence?
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@dfss9788
Facts are used to support policies.
Just as you, yourself, later confirmed, just because we say a thing is a fact does not make it so. So, all that followed this claim is virtually nonsense. On occasion, facts support policies, but it isn't a given. And assuming facts support policy when they are not facts can also derail actions that are assumed to be policy, but are not. A double failure.
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It is often said of people and policies that don't quite gel that the left hand knows not what the right hand does.
Mayorkas declaring that the Haitians under the International Bridge in Del Rio, TX, when they were there, and not dispersed around the country, were not tested for Covid, let alone vaccinated. Doesn't that just typify the incompetence of the Biden administration - it's more than just Biden.
What am I to think of Biden's vaccine mandate if, on the one hand, US citizens must do a thing, and illegal immigrants - nay, occupiers of our sovereignty - on the other hand, need not even be tested, let alone vaccinated. Didn't know all one had to do to have right of exception was to enter the country illegally. Wanna bet we don't have the same right if we choose to occupy some other country?
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@FLRW
Yes, but the meaning of that is that one who is never charged with a crime need not expect to be exonerated. Simple logic, yet progressives all use that thought as a weapon , as if the ordinary guy walking down the street must have committed some crime or other. Nope, not necessarily. But progs hjave a problem dealing with reality. Woke is a joke; an elite fantasy. It's anything, but.
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@Intelligence_06
Does not dismiss their responsibility, and it does not behoove the State to take over.
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@oromagi
I can copy & paste too:
Oh, yes, but I did read the Mueller Report - every word, including the two conclusions of each section that,
"Further, the evidence was not sufficient to charge that any member of the Trump Campaign conspired with representatives of the Russian government to interfere in the 2016 election." - Mueller Report, "Executive Summary to Vol 1," pg. 9
"…this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime" - Mueller Report, "Conclusion," Vol. 2, pg 182
Beyond this, Mueller documented 11 specific cases of felony obstruction of Justice committed by Donald Trump personally. Mueller made it clear that he would have indicted any other American for these many, many crimes but since the Constitution specifies that Congress is the instrument of Presidential justice, Mueller deferred the right of indictment to Congress. As we all know, the Republican Senate corruptly refused to review Mueller's findings.
Too bad Mueller does not read the proper intent of the Constitution, specifically, Article I, section 3, clause 7 [as most who read this don't get it, such as by DOJ, whose current policy on indicting a President is based on Nixon's AG, John Mitchell's policy he put in place to try to protect Nixon, Mitchell being a co-conspirator trying also to protect himself. The clause:
"Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law."
Mueller ignored that the Senate cannot convict beyond removal of office, but the articles of impeachment never raised Mueller's intended indictments, and the clause stipulates by "nevertheless" that in spite of convicting on impeachment, a sitting President can still be indicted. That's Mueller's conspiracy of ignorance.
To say that Mueller did not indict Trump is a lie.
Cite the indictments. Trump was never indicted by Mueller. That Mueller talked around it does not imply that he, in his position, could have easily pulled that trigger, but he did not, and to say he did is poppycock. He smashed against Mitchell's DOJ policy, and died on that rocky shore.
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@Greyparrot
Right, about 5 or 6 months' worth is all, even at 100%. At current spending, all other tax rates will have to be increased.
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@Intelligence_06
children of middle school age "indicate that age at initiation of sexual intercourse may vary by gender, ethnicity, setting and other unknown factors." And at that, it affects less than 20% of all children. That's not a high enough percentage. Not at the risk of losing education in more essential subjects, because there are, after all, limited hours of education, and there's already wasted time taken. Besides, this is the parents' responsibility more than public/private education.
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@Greyparrot
Politically, they share the same dysfunction. It appears normal to them. That's because every policy progressives have has its dissociative counter-policy, such as the fact that every electric car makes use of petroleum for lubrication, or that abortion, taking the ultimate in innocence, is considered rational, but the death penalty, taking the ultimate in guilt, is not. Money is demanded to clean the environment, but it cannot clean the clouds.
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@Theweakeredge
I'm looking at the clear majority of students who do not question gender or sexual activity as relevant in their lives in grade school. I think it's why we don't teach them quantum physics, either.
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Just when I've perfected a recipe for chicken soup
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@Greyparrot
That's a loser on both counts.
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@Greyparrot
Yes, and Michelangelo painted it in its fleshed glory [a mooning, as it were] on the Sistine Chapel ceiling. It is said it was a specific message to Pope Julius.
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@sadolite
what is a fair share
Not my job to determine. The highest tax rate is 37%, which affects everyone [married, filing jointly] with a taxable income above $622k [not including deductions], which is $233k. That is an annual income greater than 89% of US population earns, so, yeah, that it at least a fair share, and the fair share is probably less. The lowest tax rate is 10%, which affects everyone with a taxable income up to $19,000 [not including deductions] which is $1,900. That is an annual income less than 90% of US population earns, so that's probably fair for them, too. Note, however, that the average low income earner pays a volume that is 0.008% less than the average high income earner.
But, the way Democrats think, the rich need to pay higher taxes because there is no way the rich pay for all the Democrats want to spend. It is they who want to upset the applecart, not to pay only for what is essential government spending, but for elaborate government spending.
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@oromagi
Non-sequitur. You asked if Trump was the target of this particular case of espionage investigation
No, I did not ask that specific question; you read that detail into words not existing in my post #8; offering you the hint that he was the former president, not the current. I'm surprised at you; you don't usually ignore that much.
Mueller documented at least 170 contacts between Trump or 18 of his associates with Russian nationals during the 2016 campaign, a time when loyal Americans minimize foreign contacts
Oh, yes, but I did read the Mueller Report - every word, including the two conclusions of each section that,
"Further, the evidence was not sufficient to charge that any member of the Trump Campaign conspired with representatives of the Russian government to interfere in the 2016 election." - Mueller Report, "Executive Summary to Vol 1," pg. 9
"…this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime" - Mueller Report, "Conclusion," Vol. 2, pg 182
Beyond this, Mueller documented 11 specific cases of felony obstruction of Justice committed by Donald Trump personally. Mueller made it clear that he would have indicted any other American for these many, many crimes but since the Constitution specifies that Congress is the instrument of Presidential justice, Mueller deferred the right of indictment to Congress. As we all know, the Republican Senate corruptly refused to review Mueller's findings.
Too bad Mueller does not read the proper intent of the Constitution, specifically, Article I, section 3, clause 7 [as most who read this don't get it, such as by DOJ, whose current policy on indicting a President is based on Nixon's AG, John Mitchell's policy he put in place to try to protect Nixon, Mitchell being a co-conspirator trying also to protect himself. The clause:
"Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law."
Mueller ignored that the Senate cannot convict beyond removal of office, but the articles of impeachment never raised Mueller's intended indictments, and the clause stipulates by "nevertheless" that in spite of convicting on impeachment, a sitting President can still be indicted. That's Mueller's conspiracy of ignorance.
To say that Mueller did not indict Trump is a lie.
Cite the indictments. Trump was never indicted by Mueller. That Mueller talked around it does not imply that he, in his position, could have easily pulled that trigger, but he did not, and to say he did is poppycock. He smashed against Mitchell's DOJ policy, and died on that rocky shore.
Why would anybody vote for an asshole who is so litigious that he's had 500 lawsuits dismissed?
Oh, I don't know, maybe because the judges thought the lawsuits were absurd? Face it, your Trump animus slip is showing, and it's passes Labor Day. It's my turn to be animated about Biden.
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"My job as president is to protect all Americans." - Joe Biden
Says Joe, again - a continuous refrain, as if to convince himself, because we already know that's his job - to pull the national conversation away from his failure to do just that in Afghanistan, just to lay down his gauntlet, once again, to mandate Covid vaccines. Sorry, Joe, I'll take the advice of my personal physician, because, even though Jill is a doctor, the degree is in education, not medicine. Not that Joe knows the difference. Hell, he can't even tell his wife from his sister, which has all kinds of kink involved there. And y'all accuse Trump of playing the field. What President hasn't?
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@Double_R
How do you not understand the point?
What's not to understand? Constitutional requirements to be the President:
1. Be a natural-born citizen
2. Be at least 35 years of age
3. Reside in the US the last 14 years
That I have additional personal requirements, notwithstanding, by what actions has Trump acted fraudulently in these three requirements? Maybe you're the fraud?
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Mueller found 30+ different people to indict during his extended investigation into Trump incompetencies over 1,460 days, but nary a Trump among them. And these are considered more serious offenses than all the failures Biden has accumulated in a mere 250 days, as rendered in https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/6818-biden-falls-victim-to-fake-media?page=1&post_number=2 in my post #2; an incomplete list.
So, you guys achieved auto-orgasmic counting of lies. Somebody's smokin' the same stuff that Biden was selling as a lifeguard encouraging kids to rub his hairy legs.
Good for for you. I'm counting incompetences.
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@ludofl3x
Oh, now I get it. Leave the invention of stories to MSM; they're the only ones allowed to speculate instead of telling real facts. Excuse me, I'll remember in the future to warn you that I'm just passing gas.
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@FLRW
What's your point? Fred Trump was rich? And that's bad? Get a life.
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@oromagi
Not really,
Not accurate. Trump was the target from the time he announced his candidacy in June 2015, and you know it. The powers that be of the Demo party were terrified of him and only played at claiming it was a publicity stunt.
A deeply ignorant claim.
Is it? Didn't your bumkin investigator, Mueller, have some 30 indictments; not a one named Trump? Look it it. No Trump on the list.
Not to mention:
About 3,500 lawsuits have been filed against Trump or Trump org. About 1,300 completed cases according to USA Today, June 2, 2016
36 cases lost. 3%
175 settled out of court. 13%
450 cases won 34%
137 cases ended with other outcome than guilt or acquittal. 11%
500 cases dismissed by judge. 39%
73% ended completely in Trump's favor.
16% ended against Trump.
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@FLRW
Trump did not go to Harvard. He went to U of Penn Business School.
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@ludofl3x
Workshop it, bro.
Have to know how my mind works - called stream of consciousness. I know many are left behind in the process.
Spoons.
They relate to the lame effort to ban guns because spoons can kill, too, so why not ban them? Of course, thumbs can also kill, so let's ban them, too? Where are libs going to stop? Let's decaptiate everyone because, after all, it isn't guns, or spoons, or thumbs, alone, that kill, is it? It's the brain that does the killing; the thought before the act.
How does all that relate to border agents on horses? It's people using tools, and y'all think tools ought to be banned. You're all looney toons, and that ain't woke in my book. That's just broke.
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@oromagi
@Double_R
just curious, but wasn't the target Trump? Hint: he's a former, not the current. Seems hit pieces hit on associates, but none of them wear the Trump name. No wonder libs lack focus; can't hit the broad side of a barn, but are happy to hit indiscriminately. Like killing a bunch of kids when the target was allegedly a Taliban? Peas in a pod.
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@Intelligence_06
And the horses are obviously willing to cooperate with their manipulation of them by border agents. So why does Biden have to shut them down? Because he and others totally misread the video? Typical Biden blunder. No whips in evidence. Biden & Co obviously seeing what isn't there.
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According to https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/taxes/joe-biden-could-owe-up-to-dollar500000-in-back-taxes-to-the-irs/ar-AAOLafj
Joe Biden my owe $500k in 'S' corp taxes. Joe complains all the time that the rich must pay their fair share, but it appears his 2020 released tax return is lacking compliance with his own mantra. Exempt? Or just contemptible?
What is the rich fair share, by the way? They're in the highest tax bracket, and they already contribute more in taxes, by volume, than any other group, so, what isn't fair about their current contributions? That it's still not enough to fund the government? Should the federal government operate on a smaller budget? Do we really need to duplicate every state agency at a federal level, since most activity in government is mandated at state level? By the Constitution?
Cough it up, joe, The rest of us do, cash on the barrel; your frequent phlegm notwithstanding.
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@FLRW
Tesla shook the poop out of Twain. Good book title, but the movie might be graphic. However, you might enjoy [or be revolted] this personal composition:
Ode on a Commode: A Toilet Subtlty
There comes more frequently undone,
A mean and cruel and flatted course,
Such bubbling rumbles from the source,
The sphincter terminus of digestion
To interrupt all else and seek refuge
In porcelain; clean and white, refined;
Receptive. Oh, this may be huge!
Explosion splatters just in time.
And then once more into the breach,
Taken once more by soap and bleach,
One is reminded: ingratitude of age
That eat what may, seasoned by sage
Advice, the vice of culinary art:
Old age can never trust a fart.
There comes more frequently undone,
A mean and cruel and flatted course,
Such bubbling rumbles from the source,
The sphincter terminus of digestion
To interrupt all else and seek refuge
In porcelain; clean and white, refined;
Receptive. Oh, this may be huge!
Explosion splatters just in time.
And then once more into the breach,
Taken once more by soap and bleach,
One is reminded: ingratitude of age
That eat what may, seasoned by sage
Advice, the vice of culinary art:
Old age can never trust a fart.
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@Tradesecret
Thanks for your commentary. I admit to a certain ignorance of the WCF; I've read from it, but admit not all of it. I shall endeavor to do so. There is, however, an early item mentioned in it, "Since God no longer reveals himself to his people in those earlier ways,[5] Holy Scripture is absolutely essential.[6]". The [5] reference is Hebrews 1: 1-2, which. does not imply that at all. It acknowledges God speaking to prophets [OT] and that the Word was given directly by Christ "in these last days" speaking of their current, first century. But those "last days" are not ours; we are different days, altogether. It appears first-century Christians, particularly during Christ's ministry, believed the coming of the kingdom of heave would occur in their lifetimes, thus use of the "last days" verbiage. B?ut that was not the case at all. We're two thousand years distanced from then, and we're still waiting. it does not say that God stopped speaking to man, so why is it interpreted that way? I believe he still reveals to us today [I should have mentiojned that in my #1], and not just by historic scripture, which, I agree, is essential.
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@EtrnlVw
Please tell me you're not that dunce?Reincarnation emphasizes the immortality of the soul, having mortal lives is of no relevance to the eternal soul that occupies temporal bodies.
Please tell me you're not that dunce.
Re-read my #1 posit. With the exception if then Holy Spirit, who is, himself, a spirit child of God as are the rest of us, including Jesus Christ, gods are physical beings having immortal physical bodies, just as Jesus Christ demonstrated upon his resurrection. The physical body is essential in eternity, and all of us will eventually resurrect in like manner. The physical body is, then, incorruptible and will never die again. Like I said, my beliefs cause havoc with most Christians, because you're somehow locked into this idea that resurrection into a perfect physical body is somehow only a temporary condition, that Jesus had a physically resurrected body while he spent a few days on Earth that people could feel and confirm was solid flesh, then when he rose into heaven he became a spirit again? Absurd.
Like I said, understand the root etymology of reincarnation. Yes, the concept does recognize the eternal nature of the soul, as does resurrection, but the difference is that reincarnation requires that the soul occupies a succession of mortal, corruptible physical bodies. I have indicated in #s 2, 3, 4, that we have one pass in one physical, corruptible body in mortality, and that the power of the atonement allows us to learn to be obedient to God's commands, necessary in just one pass through mortality, and achieve forgiveness of our sins by proper, sincere repentance by choice to to change our carnal nature - the change of heart.
You don't understand me at all, but I understand you implicitly, Face it, we disagree on this matter of reincarnation and its effects. Reincarnate: as the etymology suggests, repeated possessions of physical bodies. To what purpose that is not accomplished in one pass with use of the power of the atonement of
Jesus Christ, which reincarnation does not even consider.
Jesus Christ, which reincarnation does not even consider.
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@ILikePie5
Yup. It's why one of my personal qualifiers for a US presidential hopeful is that they must have executive private industry experience under their belt, or I'm a pass.
joe Biden has never run a lemonade stand, let alone any serious private industry experience as a service counter cleaner. Standing puddles of lemonade are sticky, after all. Hope somebody is wiping down the Resolute in the Oval, because I know Slo Joe uses a sloppy straw.
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