AdaptableRatman

What did OT and Peter tell us to do to our Emperor as long as the Emperor is not very unjust?

I do not agree to this. I used to think like this because everybody points to Hitler or Stalin, they forget the fantastic emperors or monarchs of the past and it isnt always about the top one alone. How do the knights treat the peasants?

We did not elect God, nor the angels, nor the clergy. God presumably did not intend us to be democratic, he did intend us to be respectful of rights.

Yeah I am not the same type of conservative as you are. I am not a free market capitalist. I support strong regulation.

The solution is benevolent dictatorship with feudalistic leadership. That way everyone gets guaranteed jobs and the system benefits all. I did not say equally, I said benefits all.

This current system of democracy and liberalism means left wing becomes too concerned with nihilism and hedonism while right wing becomes concerned with ironically individualism and tribalism rather than holy collectivism.

Problem is, to be a dictatorship means democracies alienate you. That ruins your shots at international trade and good relationships. I admit idk the solution to how to get to the end goal.

It comes down to the Emperor's character, the way the Empire rubs and thus how the peasants are treated and rewarded.

I do not think democracy is short of masked feudalism. The masking has led to nihilism, hedonism and needing a lot of pills to stay sane and happy.

I am a flat earther who think if there was an 'asteroid' it was sent by God.

Even if round earth theory is true, Father decides if massive natural disasters are permitted to occur or not, at times he even does them.

Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do and die.

P.S. lying is a sin so I do worry how to balance that with my kids (if/when I have 🙏 and theyre lets say 11+ asking this) who will have to lie to ace biology and physics exams especially if they specialise in that. I am sure it is venial rather than mortal lying. I will quietly mention it to the Priest to make sure. Catholics have for a long time worked  better with science than Prots have. I will be careful how I go about telling.

Hence why I see Catholicism as actually left wing on balance. I see right wing as evil and atheistic no matter how much the religious vs atheist divide tells otherwise.

Yes is all up to the individual. Definitely. Totally. Daddys and mommys inheritance and going to a good school having good tutors and having a caring non toxic environment at home to study in is all on us, as well as being neurotypical enough to find school enjoyable and not a nightmare that affects our ability to learn... Duh, it is all on the individual.

Duh. Like come on... Obviously.

Oh so we are just here to entertain you.

Idc the logic of how exists. It is am axiom. Metapgorically I am Super Mario, he runs Nintendo. I am focused on the stars and resisting Bowser.

How he came to exist is not my concern. I am certain of him. Allah is the other truly viable option but Allah is a demonic distortion to the point Allah treats his adherent akin to how Satant treats the demons.

Judaism has a viable alternative and Judaism only understood Father properly, not the other 2.

Solely lurking and reading after making an OP means you are a spectator or alternatively a student, not a debater.

Term is 'mystical' and only 1 of the 3 is okay to call a man as Christ is fully Man still (up there) and also fully God.

I did heresy, I apologise. He begot them via the same Yhwh essence of himself. Be did not create them as a subentity thus they were unmade, only begotten.

Zed, are you a god? If not, do you admit you need to be created?

I think I commited heresy... It says the Father did not exist before the Son by logic in our Catholic doctrine. But what I think it means by that is all 3 existed first before time itself or angels existed. On a fundamental level Father had to exist first.

I am confused.

Valid point. I had left him unblocked but it is valid. His disrespect is too far, he must reform or stay blocked. I blocked him now.

So how do you react to a sinner repeatedly abusing you?

So, I must be very careful here so I don't describe him in the Eastern Orthodox manner.

All Orthos and Caths agree that on a fundamental level, Father existed first.

Where the hugest Trinity disagreement (not sure on OOs) between EO and Cath is to do with a concept called Filioque.

For Caths, instantaneously the Son person was begotten. It is theorised his form and name in Old Testament is the unnamed Angel of the Lord who claimed to be equal to the Lord and was contextually was described as the Lord multiple times as well. In other words a subset of Caths including me theorise that inside Kudaism the Son persona, not yrt born as boy Yeshua, was in Angel Form as the apex Arch-archangel that even Michael was not equal to.

This is not confirmed biblically. It is strongly implied. What is also implied is The Son did not originate as angel at all but as god itself in another 'Person'.

Then from both as a unified way to experience the will, love and guidance (and more) of both camre/begot Holy Spirit. This is the most huye disagreement between EO and Catholics. EO insist this is severe heresy, to them HS is solely from and by Father's leadership and will, to Catholics HS is from a unified will of Father and Son.

Your question then, is who made Father. Father did not get made as such. Father is unedited Yhwh in a way but he instantly begot the Son persona so he could lean into role as leader, punisher, protector etc. most likely and also because Son can visit us here, Father has no form (yes I am.disagreeing with Catholics painting father as an.old man with white hair etc this is just wrong). Father is absolutely formless. He was unmade, uncreated and unbegotten. He always was is and will be but because he somehow needs the Son as the loving, forgiving side of him and the speaker and HS represents the will, aura, love, courage etc of both, he instantly made both, foreseeing the need to.

Smart man. Best continent on Earth. We welcome you, Greek Ortho right?

I recommend asking a mod to edit that post or delete.

But my actions are my fault and I did the right thing sort of but I did do some wrong things including an in-vain usage of the Lord's name(s). We don't talk about what will be or was said in confession ever. You can assume all my mortal sins will end up confessed. Whatever Priest tells I will take into account and obey. That is also complex to explain because you don't know if I am confirmed or not yet. You are only meant to confess your whole life after both a valid baptism and also after doing decent amount of RCIA. There is reasoning behind this. 

Isnt that doxxing what you said about Vader? Where did you learn that?

I will admit, it is confusing to me too.

For instance how did he limit himself as Jesus to a baby brain experience and limited knowledge until he got resurrected? Actually even then, whike resurected but not yet in heaven it is not 100% clear to me whether or not he was again fully omniscient or not.

What I know is that as humans, for instance, we know many things that at 1 given moment we are not paying full attention to. If God can ignore things while creating, then pay the full attention after, it is also plausible but I am not sure that makes sense for 1 main reason: that father is truly different to the other 2 when it comes to how he is operating, as far as I know.

Father is 24/7 omniscient, omnipotent and all. Only Jesus and HS were.proven able to restrict tbemselves to specific forms/realms etc. for instance in Hell, Jesus and HS have zero presence at all, or we at least presume so. Father is watching it 24/7 maintaining it, running the punishments (no, Satan is not, pagans and Protestants invented that idea).

Could not have done this any better imo without skirting around the issue. Focus is on appreciating David.

Not ashamed. Not sorry.

I am sorry for that at the very end I bothered trying to get through to FC. 

Slightly so, yes. In that he is capable of somehow having a randomness element to souls and brains that he does not dictate at all unless they allow him to via accepting Holy Spirit, welcoming his grace, Christ's guidance etc. (dictate is probably a heretical word there but it fits your context)

He knows after initiating creation, what will occur. He adapts that at times plausibly. He does not create with full predestination.

At a time when the site lacked backbone and others were cowering to depraved evil, you returned.

Fishchaser banned 30 days, good riddance shame it is so short.

Wylted has no Hitler pic anymore and if anything has a holy one. 🙏

Also well done to Sir Lancelot for noticing David's return which led to some events.

Fishchaser abused me and other even brand new users relentlessly+severely and leaders here let him do it freely. Barney did help. Less decisively but definitely so.

It is obvious who I didnt name or thank. I shall let silence speak volumes.

Thank you sincerely David. Also appreciation to Barney.

No, it means God wilfully creates all not just deterministically but with predetermined intent.

If he randomises the souls and brains to some degree in a way we cannot figure out as we are not on his level of operating, he then can be omniscient but have non-predetermined outcomes he foresees. This is the only realistic non atheistic way it even can work, if we are intellectually honest and justifies the Catholic God.

What is the definition of predestination?

He can leave randomised some elements of the soul and brain.; not all, some.

What happens is after he has created and left random, he can foresee it all, yes.

That means he does not predetermine it all yet he foresees it all. He will at times intervene hence miracles or even terrors like Noah's flood.

He has reasoning we cannot perceive as mortals, behind when he does and doesn't intervene because he perceives ALL butterfly effects.

He is plausibly creating with randomisation then foreseeing where it ends up and adapting it to fit his overall plan. These do not contradict.

Yes. So for instance he knows all that would unexist as their parents would never have met to have had sex if the butterfly effects if Hiter and Stalin etc didn't happen.

He has to unexist every single one of them to make it so Hitler unexists. Or he has to violate the core principle of free will and rig Hitler's life, which still makes it so that the butterfly effext mean he unexisted many many subseauent deaxendants of parents who wouldn't have met or sperm donors that dont make it to ivf (Catholics are against ivf but it seems sin is inherent to humankins and we cannot deny all lives matter so ivf babies are valid treasured lives but as a core principle we stand against it being normalised, encouraged etc).

The reality is also this, God makes with free will but he foresees the usage of free will and adapts to prayers most likely too at times, else prayers of the sort that beg for things wouldn't have any effect. He is also wise enough to foresee far ahead any prayer he answers, the butterfly effect consequences. He has reasons he denies some prayer and I am heretical in saying this as Catholic scholars and saints say denied prayer are just you having too little hope and faith. I don't think it is solely that. God must surely actively decline some prayers even if you fully have faith and hope. Surely.

God allows tragedy because he wants to test all in a free will environment. He was able to randomise certain elements of souls and maybe even brains. This is very plausible as at the quantum level, God even has made electrons able to be at 2 places at once, meaning random between the 2 and it is random, irrational chaos, yet at the zoomed out level we have consistent laws of biology, physics, chemistry and psychology.

Can God make randomness aspects, yes or no

I don't support that truck mass murder obviously. It is ashame liberals dont want cops everywhere and Id even make it eaiser to become one qualification wise if I ran a nation but have cop-military crossover training as a norm (cops that good at fighting they can compete with brown belts at BJJ). In exchange for it being less qualifications, you would as a cop need to have less privacy but that is already the case.

We would need every single school they ever went to etc and investigate their past 4 years on all devices owned.

Simpler. That doesn't mean I hold Cops as superior, it means not everyone suits it. They cannot demand as much privacy as a citizen and be a cop.

If you don't understand God why do you deny God could possibly generate aouls and brains that operate in ways he leaves partly random?

Then he may even intervene at times from a sevedre nuclear event etc but generally is hands off to rig anything like that and goes where he sees the grain of savung the most goes, without destroying free will.

There are multiple claims in your OP, make 1 thread per claim/issue. I will tackle one by one when I have time.

So you don't know yet claim you do know in the OP

So who made the other gods in your understanding of reality?

I do not think anyone wants this setup.

Adding a gunned townie or a vengeance townie makes far more sense.

God alone is singular. Are you a monotheist?

Cool stick to your place, Europe will be fine.

8:4, is 2:1.

However I feel 5:2 is fairer as well as 9:4. If it is truly 2:1 an armed Towny or invulnerable towny to vengeance (but not eliminations) makes sense.

5 vanil town 2 vengeance?

7 person setup

Nightless games only properly favour town if Mafia are not having a group chat during dp, btw

It may make sense to have a sheriff/deputy or whatever role gets gun dp1. That way Town has 1 thing counteracting the 4 vengeance.

Putting female on your profile while being a cisgender male that wants people to call you he/him makes it a sin and I think it may be mortal not venial the reason being you both do it lmowing it is wrong and don't even identify as it, thus you ridicule both God and genuine gender dysphoric people (or maybe it is the gender euphoric trans you mock but that does not make it better and it comes across as mocking both).

It is all well and good claiming to be Christian. Christ would not be fake trans ever, it would defy his traits of honesty and refusing to sadistically ridicule.

You claim to be Christian and preach to me to show love to all faitbs and people. Then you proceed to co tinuously degrade other members and go hardest on your own God in ridicule by what you just said.

Remind me of the Apostle's creed, read the last few lines.

No brother, you be careful as the real God is who we serve and he can do far more than put monsters under beds, read Old Testament.

For clarity, I am a sinner by nature.

My claim is not that I am good. My claim is in this series of events I was ovjectively tbe victim amd not doing any evil until arguably the very end but it was to get through to him and show how evil he is when the mask comes off to others too

I reckon he has a demon possessing him.

Literal spam

I may have sinned in what I replied to him, I didnt know how else to get through to the guy he is so delusional he thinks the victim of his systematic, harassment and abuse is the abuser.

You cannot even admit you were wrong. Mediating how you did was sympathising with sheer evil. where did you mediate on my end? 0 empathy. 0 loyalty.

Get lost or be my friend. Don't play middle between good and evil and expect good side not to care.