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@TheUnderdog
But some of the millions of people who listened to this song (including myself) thought he said the N word here
source?
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@Ramshutu
pointless responding anymore it wont go anywhere.
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@Dr.Franklin
no, i blocked you for being clearly in bad faith all the time with nothing to offer as an argument.
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@Tarik
moral standard is not something we changeBut morality isn’t consistent… it keeps changingContradiction at its finest 🥱.
You took him out of context
Excellent - so you’re agreeing that in a subjective morality - your moral decisions are not youe choice; our moral standard is not something we change on whim, we cannot simply decide to think murder is okay tomorrow.
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@949havoc
You can show numerous citations where academic, political, and journalist people charge systemic racism, but none of them can point to a currently documented, in-force policy or statute.
doesnt have to be in force.
What happened yesterday affects today
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@949havoc
does not have to be explicit to be racist.
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China is currently the closest thing to this
hilarious.
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You called me a 'fucking retard' in PMs and expect me to unblock you.
lol
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I don't need CRT to know that the KKK was bad for their racist beliefs and actions.
thats not what CRT is for.. nor anything else you said.
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@Fruit_Inspector
For example, if we give equal access to schools regardless of skin color, we have eliminated the racist action of segregation, and we have addressed the inequality.
not even remotely eliminated it.
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@Fruit_Inspector
Please explain democrats marxist like tendencies.
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@Fruit_Inspector
joe biden is most definitely not a communist revolutionary nor any other democrat in congress.
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@ludofl3x
no he wont he blocks or ignores everyone that challenges his beliefs.
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93% of the 10,000 blacks murdered are killed annually by Thugs
post this data please.........
(by thugs i assume you mean black people)
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@Fruit_Inspector
what of people that cant work (disabled, etc)
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@secularmerlin
What exactly do you mean by thug? What is a thug in the context of this conversation?
Its often used as a dog whistle for black people.
(why is blm in the title?)
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@secularmerlin
answer the question he asked.
What happens when no one wants to volunteer to pick up trash and clean up sewage? We can't pay anyone to do it so...
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Yeah, that's what I was trying to ask.
thats been answered about 10 times now.
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@bmdrocks21
Or look at average behavior and understand that the difference is logical, as with gender.....
you mean whites and blacks are different biologically I assume?
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@Lemming
there are always costs in revolutions (many deaths in american revolution aswell No complaints though)
Thats not to say i dont think castro is evil
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@fauxlaw
What's your point? HB5 doesn't specify "evil" either, but does indicate a requirement to teach communism and totalitarianism:“A student must earn one credit in United States History; one credit in World History; one-half credit in economics; and one-half credit in United States Government, which must include a comparative discussion of political ideologies, such as communism and totalitarianism, that conflict with the principles of freedom and democracy essential to the founding principles of the United States.”
thats essentially the same thing as saying its evil bro.
Just because something is evil doesn't mean it should be stricken from instruction. Good to know about the enemy, yeah? Sun Tsu's Art of War was in my high school curriculum. As was Marx's Communist Manifesto and Chairman Mao's Little Red Book. People then were not afraid of stuff. Not like today. Today, we coddle our children. I had to tach my children this stuff, myself, and I did. I wanted them to know the face of the enemy.
that is entirely subjective.
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@Intelligence_06
Equality is actually anarcho-communism
anarcho communism is not where everyone is treated the same
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@gp
Why do they commit more crime?
Also little tip before you spout your bullshit your gonna need your proof...Sorry you dont have an argument.
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Murder victims are people murdered.
yea no shit.
And yeah, you totally skipped post #41.
wasn't even in the discussion during post 41.
I'm officially done with you, you don't really want to discuss anything in good faith, so have a nice day.
Please explain how I have been in bad fucking faith (because I didn't see post 41?).
You, my sir are the fucking king of bad faith; this entire discussion you have been making logical fallacies and when asked for evidence you cant even bring relevant data.
You are a troll.
You want the amount killed by police? sure.241 out of 9913 Black murders were done by cops in 2020.Lets run that percentage...that comes out to 2.43% A tiny source of all murders of Blacks. Most of the 241 justified against armed and dangerous mostly male assailants vs the 9300 killed by other blacks...victims which include many Black women and Black kids.That's the main reason 81% of Blacks polled want more police, not less. The major oppressor of blacks is overwhelmingly other blacks.That's a real problem and ignored by most of America for what reason exactly? Why do you think 81% of Blacks think this way about police?
pivottt..................
(maybe you need to reread How to Debate Leftists and Destroy Them for Winning again to refresh your memory)
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@Greyparrot
Dude that's just murder victims as secularmerlin asked
The number of people of color killed by police versus the number of white victims adjusted by population.
Not how many people are murdered.
To be clear that's the same source I posted earlier, you were just too uninterested to actually read as usual.
this one? https://www.newsweek.com/81-black-americans-dont-want-less-police-presence-despite-protestssome-want-more-cops-poll-1523093 sorry i didnt read the whole article if its on there.
you were just too uninterested to actually read as usual.
Well your just to uninterested to make a sound argument..... obviously.
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@Greyparrot
Don't care about a poll.
I have the stats of the sheer number of POC killed in 2020 to show you the massive cultural problem going on within the ethnic community itself.
Provide this source
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@Greyparrot
About what?
Jee I wonder..............
Are are you trolling and looking for validation like a teen girl who just lost their subscribers?
oddly specific but okay.
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@Greyparrot
Stop making bare assertions.....
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@Greyparrot
@greyparrot
Who are these central planners elaborate on what power they have.....?
@ rationboy
greyparrot won this debate
I disagree (duh)
Hes dropped majority of my argument.
After i wrote
All needs are met and there's no tension due to inequality.
communism is not equality.
From each according to their ability is equity not equality.
A prison is nowhere near equal nor equity; Prisoners get paid 15 cents to 2 dollars an hour for working for hours.
Also note that the prisoners are literally working for companies; its basically slavery.
There's no private property and no inequality among the prisoners
Wrong some prisoners have higher sentences than others that not equal if it was that's still not communism.
The prison they are in is a private property that they aren't allowed to leave.
The parts of the prison prisoners arent allowed can be called private property.
All work is orchestrated by central planners and performed by prisoners.
This can be a case made for prisons being capitalist.
The bourgeoisie elite do nothing while the proletariat prisoners give them their labour in exchange for 15 cents an hour.
Also the prison is literally filled with police in other words the state.
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he only responded with
communism is not equality.From each according to their ability is equity not equality.
When I said "no tension due to inequality," I meant due to wealth inequality as prisoners are not allowed to own anything.
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He completely dropped what i wrote about it being more similar to capitalism.
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@Greyparrot
Now imagine this work prison is on an island and has to provide for itself.
but that's not how prisons work do they?
And if they did; my other points still remain.
When I said "no tension due to inequality," I meant due to wealth inequality as prisoners are not allowed to own anything.
People can own things in communism....... its called personal property
Karl Marx even mentioned that in the communist manifesto
"When, therefore, capital is converted into common property, into the property of all members of
society, personal property is not thereby transformed into social property. It is only the social
character of the property that is changed. It loses its class character.
Let us now take wage-labour.
The average price of wage-labour is the minimum wage, i.e., that quantum of the means of
subsistence which is absolutely requisite to keep the labourer in bare existence as a labourer.
What, therefore, the wage-labourer appropriates by means of his labour, merely suffices to
prolong and reproduce a bare existence. We by no means intend to abolish this personal
appropriation of the products of labour, an appropriation that is made for the maintenance and
reproduction of human life, and that leaves no surplus wherewith to command the labour of
others. All that we want to do away with is the miserable character of this appropriation, under
which the labourer lives merely to increase capital, and is allowed to live only in so far as the
interest of the ruling class requires it"
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@Greyparrot
Communism: a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs; a stateless, classless moneyless society.
All needs are met and there's no tension due to inequality.
communism is not equality.
From each according to their ability is equity not equality.
A prison is nowhere near equal nor equity; Prisoners get paid 15 cents to 2 dollars an hour for working for hours.
Also note that the prisoners are literally working for companies; its basically slavery.
There's no private property and no inequality among the prisoners
Wrong some prisoners have higher sentences than others that not equal if it was that's still not communism.
The prison they are in is a private property that they aren't allowed to leave.
The parts of the prison prisoners arent allowed can be called private property.
All work is orchestrated by central planners and performed by prisoners.
This can be a case made for prisons being capitalist.
The bourgeoisie elite do nothing while the proletariat prisoners give them their labour in exchange for 15 cents an hour.
Also the prison is literally filled with police in other words the state.
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@Greyparrot
I said elaborate not write something super vague in a single sentence.
It would be great if you would explain
What the commune central planners are; or like actually try to engage in debate.....?
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