YOUR BIBLE STUPID QUOTE IN YOUR ROUND 1: "In Matthew chapter 19, Jesus is speaking with the Pharisees. I'm not going to use the argument of silence saying because Jesus never spoke on homosexuality that it was dis-approved ."
WRONG BIBLE FOOL!
1. Jesus is God: "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.” (1 Timothy 2:5)
2. When Jesus is God, then He wrote the Bible through through His inspired words: "And we also thank God constantly for this, that when you received the word of God which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the word of God.” (1 Thessalonians 2:13)
3. When Jesus is the ONLY ONE GOD, and that ALL of the Bible, Old and New Testaments, were inspired by Him as written, then the following passages do show Jesus to dis-approve of homosexually, period!
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: THEY SHALL SURELY BE PUT TO DEATH; their blood shall be upon them." (Leviticus 20:13)
"For this cause God gave them up into vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet . . . Who knowing the judgment of God, THAT THEY WHICH COMMIT SUCH THINGS ARE WORTHY OF DEATH, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them" (Romans 1:26-27)
I suggest that you bone up upon Biblical axioms like shown above, before you make another drastic mistake like you've done already shown above!
Your Bible ignorance forgot to say that all ungodly "Trannys" should respect what Jesus, as God, gave their gender to them at birth, and that they are NOT to change it in any way whatsoever!
"But he who is joined to the Lord becomes one spirit with him. Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body." (1 Corinthians 6:17-20)
I really hate dumbfounded pseudo-christians like you. :(
Alleged prophecies to Identify Jesus as the Messiah, which Jesus DOES NOT Fulfill, therefore David wins, period! NEXT DEBATER?
1. Matthew 1:23 says that Jesus (the alleged messiah) would be called Immanuel, which means “God with us.” Yet NO ONE, not even his step parents, called Jesus "Immanuel" at any point in the bible whatsoever, period!
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2. The Messiah must be a PHYSICAL DESCENDANT of David (Romans 1:3 & Acts 2:30). Yet, how could Jesus meet this requirement since his genealogies in Matthew 1 and in Luke 3 show Jesus descended from David through Joseph, who WAS NOT his paternal father because of the Virgin Birth where Mary was celestially impregnated by her own SON Jesus threw spiritual incest! Besides, Mary was from the House of LEVI, and NOT from David, whereas, this prophecy simply fails completely!
TRUE Christians like myself have to accept the following image regarding the Virgin Birth: https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME9ZKOY
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3. Isaiah 7:16 seems to say that before Jesus had reached the age of maturity, both of the Jewish countries would be destroyed. Yet there is no mention of this prophecy being fulfilled in the New Testament with the coming of Jesus, hence this is another Messiah prophecy not fulfilled, duh!
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There is a "plethora" of other narratives in showing Jesus was NOT the Messiah, and was simply a false prophet, but you get the picture without me showing numerous other Bible passages that are equal or more truthful than these!
YOUR CONTINUED STUPIDITY QUOTE OF ISLAM AND THE HEBREW FAITH REGARDING JESUS: "I first must disagree with your definition of Jesus Christ. He is not only the central figure of Christianity; he is the an important prophet in Islam and other offshoots of the Abrahamic faiths. I agree with your definition of what you would consider a false prophet."
OMG, here we go again with your outright, unadulterated, Bible DUMBNESS again! Here are some important sources of disagreement. Among the three Abrahamic faiths, THAT ALL CONTRADICT EACH OTHER, is over the divinity of Jesus. Jews and Muslims reject the triune conception of God and place primacy on belief in One God. Christians contend that Jesus was the incarnate son of God who sacrificed his life for the salvation of others. Then again, the triune sects of Christianity believe that Jesus is GOD!
The hell bound Muslims believe that salvation is to be achieved by the belief in One God, which is the disgusting Allah! Of course, this is barring the PEDOPHILE Muhammed which was the deceiving impetus of the pagan Islamic faith to begin with!
WeaverofFate, you have so much to learn, that at your age, Jesus and I don't think you have that much time left to do so, and at your expense.
You posted a link in comment #1 where we assume you accept Dennis Prager's notion that If There’s No God, Then Murder Isn’t Wrong.
Since Jesus is the God of the Christians, and out of one of many times He committed murder within the scriptures, where in the case of Him murdering His entire creation in His "Great Flood," was Jesus wrong in doing this murderous act where His own inspired words to begin with says; "You shall not murder" (Deuteronomy 5:17) to set an example?
This is especially troublesome because in the Flood scenario, Jesus murdered "INNOCENT" zygotes within women in gestation, and babies treading the ocean waters screaming for their mothers before they went down into the ocean depth and dying a horrific suffocating death. These innocent human life didn't know of man's wickedness and evil, yet Jesus murdered them as well. (Genesis 5:5-6) Therefore, does Jesus’ murderous act upon the innocent as aforementioned described seem correct since He is known to be an all loving and forgiving God?
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Then there is the irony that Jesus is omniscient (1 John 2:20, Psalm 139:1–6 ), then He knew way beforehand that He was going to murder His creation in the Great Flood, where He knew His creation were going to act in the manner that they did in being evil! Therefore, is Jesus guilty of the most ungodly of murders, being “Premeditated Murder” which opens up a large can of worms?
Just running this proposition up the flag pole to see who salutes it! :)
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WeaverofFate, who doesn't know Jack Shyte about how to handle a Biblically 2nd class wife,
I read through your return comment, and used it for a "sleeping aide," thank you. Pertaining to your Sister of Eve wife, how did you meet your 2nd class woman for your future wife? Was it at a Christian Singles event? I met all of my 9 wives in the way Jesus’ inspired words said to do herewith,
I’ll just go over a few of them because there’re too many to list all of them, but an example is forthwith;
1. This was a hard one, no pun intended, but Jesus’ inspired words said if I cut off 200 foreskins of my future father-in-law’s enemies, I got his daughter which she was a beauty for my wife, praise! (1 Samuel 18:27)
2. Go to a party and hide. When the women you like comes out to dance, grab her and carry her off to be your wife, praise! (Judges 21:19-25)
Anyway, you get the picture, and I am sure that you are showing your “2nd Classer” these passages so she can be the biblically correct woman, are you not?” You better be, because Jesus is watching you (Hebrews 4:13)
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You just keep showing this following passage to your Sister of Eve wife lessor vessel, where she is to recite it daily 10 times:
“WIVES SUBMIT YOURSELVES TO YOUR HUSBANDS, as to the Lord. FOR THE HUSBAND IS THE HEAD OF THE WIFE even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, SO WIVES SHOULD SUBMIT IN EVERYTHING TO THEIR HUSBANDS." (Ephesians 5:22-24)
Commentary, I know you saw the key word in this passages, which was "everything," and you know what that relates to, even if she uses the excuse that she has a headache! Understood?
If she gives you lip regarding the passage above, smack said lip as per Proverbs 20:30 to remind her that she is only upon this earth as a helper for you, as per the contradicting Creation Narratives. We superior men over the woman will gain solace in knowing the biblical axiom that there will be NO WOMAN in heaven, apparently because we had to put up with them while upon earth, praise Jesus!
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NEXT PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN LIKE “WEAVEROFFATE” THAT DOESN’T KNOW HIS ASS FROM A WILD GRAPE IN HOW TO DEAL WITH HIS 2ND CLASS WIFE, WILL BE … ?
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WeaverofFate, who doesn't biblically know how to handle his 2nd class woman as his wife,
YOUR ONCE AGAIN CANDY- ASSED QUOTE: "Brother Thomas, with thy divine wisdom, how am I to discipline my wife ........."
Your assumed "divine wisdom" sucks hind teat, because you are still Bible stupid as I have shown the membership in this comment section. You keep showing everyone that you are still a "pseudo-christian" because you have to ask me in how to discipline your 2nd class wife! HELLO? You should have had that knowledge before marriage in conversation with your father in how he disciplined your mother!
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Here is the first rule of thumb in disciplining your wife with this Jesus inspired passage: "Blows that wound cleanse away evil; strokes make clean the innermost parts." (Proverbs 20:30) I assume that you can do the math regarding this verse, yes? Maybe? Do I have to draw you a picture? When you strike your wife with blows it will cleanse her from her wrongdoing, BUT, be very careful on the strokes to her "inner parts!" GET IT? Probably not. :(
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Jesus told me in prayer last night that you are to work on your Bible stupidity and ignorance, as it has been shown by me, and that you have RAN AWAY from as well in the comment section. You don't want that "pseudo-christian" sign hanging over your head on your pointed aluminum foiled hat all the time, do you? Of your you don't, therefore, pray to Jesus tonight in this manner to have said hat removed:
"But when you pray, GO INTO YOUR ROOM AND SHUT THE DOOR and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you." (Matthew 6:6)
Uh, was that a patronizing statement, where you do not want me to show TRUE Christian morals inspired by Jesus the Christ as God anymore, where you in other words can handle your debate? Huh?
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WeaverofFate, who doesn't biblically know how to handle his 2nd class woman as his wife,
YOUR WUSSY PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN MODUS OPERANDI QUOTE: “I am kinda hungry so you may have a good point, how does one properly tell her to get in the kitchen, Brother Thomas?”
Do you see why you are nothing but a pseudo-christian at best? Huh? This is because you were flaunting over the woman in your debate that was totally wrong as I have biblically shown you many times in the comment section! Listen up, don't be a "wuss" because YOU are the controlling man, and your wife is biblically nothing but a 2nd class woman that YOU have the authority over with no questions asked, understood?
Your the superior man for Christ’s sake, therefore whenever you are hungry you agressively tell her to get her ass immediately into the kitchen and get those pots and pans rattling to fix breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and to be silent about it when doing so! GET IT?
“Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.” (1 Timothy 2:11;120)
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Furthermore, remember this Jesus as god inspired passage that shows the woman as weaker than man:
“Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor TO THE WOMAN AS A WEAKER VESSEL, since they are heirs with you of the grace of life, so that your prayers may not be hindered.” (1 Peter 3:7)
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Don’t be a “Candy Ass” pseudo-christian, take the lead in all affairs with your 2nd class woman, and let her read this passage:
“Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body. But as the church is subject to Christ, so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything.” (Ephesians 5:22-24)
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NEXT CANDY-ASS PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN LIKE “WEAVEROFFATE” THAT DOESN’T KNOW HOW TO BIBLICALLY HANDLE HIS 2ND CLASS WOMAN AS HIS WIFE, WILL BE … ?
We need laughable entertainment, therefore when are you two debating comedians going to start, as in, shyte or get off the toilet!
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1. Meantime, the Christian morals allowed me to beat my children with a rod because they were getting out of line, praise Jesus' revenge upon my kids!:
JESUS AS GOD SAID: "Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou BEATEST him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt BEAT HIM with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell." (Proverbs.23:13-14)
2. Another moral Christian teaching was that my wives and I could sell our daughters into slavery, since we had too many mouths to feed in the first place, as this passage states herewith:
JESUS AS GOD SAID: “When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do.” (Exodus 21:7)
Do you two have any other Christian morals that you can add to this list?
YOUR REVEALING QUOTE OF EDITING CONSERVALLECTUAL'S VOTE TO YOU? LOL! "If you want to revote, you can always write a rough draft and run it by me before submitting it."
Seemingly, not only are you wanting the Bible inept pseudo-christian Conservallectual's vote, but you want to edit it in what YOU want him to say! How laughable it that?! Then you wonder why we laugh at your long-winded dissertations in YOU not getting to the point of the topic forthwith because of your non-debating skills. LOL!
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RAYHAN16 IS A NO VOTE SAYS ALLAH BECAUSE HE IS A LIAR!
The dumbfounded of the Qur’an RAYHAN16 deserves NO VOTES because of his blatant LYING about his faith, notwithstanding, that said faith was inspired by a PEDOPHILE named Muhammed in "toying around" with a 6 year old girl named Aisha! (Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234: Narrated Aisha)
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RAYHAN16, YOUR BLATANT MUSLIM LYING QUOTE!: “I have stated that whenever Muslims are commanded to go to war, there is always a case of self defense. A Muslim is only allowed to go to war if the enemy attacks first. In fact, you won't find a single war verse in the Quran that states to go to war and kill innocent people” https://www.debateart.com/debates/4029/comment-links/48964
Rayhan16, you have been RUNNING AWAY from the following 4 passages in the comment section since their inception, that explicitly show you to be the continued LIAR towards your pathetic faith of Islam relating to Muslims only go to war in self-defense, NOT!
In the following links, there was absolutely NO self-defense situations relating to Hell bound Muslims, whereas instead, without being provoked, and in chronological order, Muslims are told to attack others!
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Your initial problem is that you actually think the membership is as dumbfounded as you are regarding your Satanic Qur’an, where you being a LIAR as shown in this post, you are HELL BOUND!
"If they had been true to Allaah, it would have been better for them." [Muhammad 47:21]
The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: You must be truthful, for truthfulness leads to righteousness and righteousness leads to Paradise. A man will keep speaking the truth and striving to speak the truth until he will be recorded with Allaah as a siddeeq (speaker of the truth). BEWARE OF TELLING LIES, for lying leads to immorality AND IMMORALITY LEADS TO HELLFIRE. A man will keep telling lies and striving to tell lies until he is recorded with Allaah as a liar.
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NEXT LYING PSEUDO-MUSLIM LIKE “RAYHAN16” THAT EXPECTS VOTES FOR HIM SUBSEQUENT TO BLATANTLY LYING ABOUT HIS FAITH AS SHOWN IN THIS POST, WILL BE … ?
YOUR QUOTE REGARDING YOUR BIBLICALLY 2ND CLASS WIFE: "By the way, thanks for calling my wife cute"
She can be as cute as she wants, but in the meantime, get her ass back into the kitchen where she belongs!
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WeaverofFate, remember this Jesus, as God, inspired passage regarding your 2nd class wife: "A quarrelsome wife is as annoying as constant dripping on a rainy day. Stopping her complaints is like trying to stop the wind or trying to hold something with greased hands." (Proverbs 27:15-16)
YOUR QUOTE OF CHRISTMAS, WHERE YOU FORGOT "IDOLS": "You can have your Christmas trees and Santa pagans. The Bible doesn't justify any of that."
How many pseudo-christian parents let their offspring get all excited over Santa Claus, where he becomes an idol to them in the true definition of the term. Therefore, these inept parents are going directly against Jesus' inspired words: "Little children, keep yourselves from idols." (John 5:21)
You are correct about the Christmas trees, where at Christmas time the pagan pseudo-christians like WEAVEROFFATE acquire a tree and decorate it with objects that AGAIN, goes against Jesus' inspired words herewith:
"Hear the word that the Lord speaks to you, O house of Israel. Thus says the Lord: “Learn not the way of the nations, nor be dismayed at the signs of the heavens because the nations are dismayed at them, for the customs of the peoples are vanity. A tree from the forest is cut down and worked with an axe by the hands of a craftsman. They decorate it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so that it cannot move. Their idols are like scarecrows in a cucumber field, and they cannot speak; they have to be carried, for they cannot walk. Do not be afraid of them, for they cannot do evil, neither is it in them to do good.” ..." (Jeremiah 10:1-25)
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I wish we could vote for the debater that RAN AWAY from Jesus' true words the most that I presented to them in my comments 9, 10, 16 AND 18, whereas that would be the most dumbfounded of the Bible, hands down, WEAVEROFFATE!
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WeaverofFate, that RUNS away from Jesus' true doctrine,
Listen, I completely understand that you cannot defend yourself in this comment section relative to me Bible Slapping you Silly®️ in my posts directed to you, AND, that you have had to RUNAWAY from because you cannot handle the truth of their content!
Don't worry, Jesus and I are keeping track of all of your Bible Stupidism's®️ that will be shown at the end of your sorrowful debate.
Tell your wife "hi" and then tell her that Jesus' inspired words says the following to her as a 2nd class woman: "The woman Folly is loud; she is seductive and knows nothing.” (Proverbs 9:13)
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NEXT PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN LIKE "WEAVEROFFATE" THAT RUNS AWAY FROM JESUS' TRUE WORDS AS SHOWN IN MY POSTS 9, 10, 16 AND 18 TO HIM, WILL BE ... ?
YOUR SECOND-GRADER STATEMENT AGAIN: "I apologize you had to deal with that fool. He shit-posts everywhere he goes."
Uh, the fool is the one that RUNS away from at least "trying" to defend yourself in what I TRULY said about you, other than to bring forth more 2nd grade comments like your feeble quote above. Every forum has kids like you pretending to be adults. Your inept mental state in your debates doesn't allow you to understand that you should feel embarrassed about your child-like statements! LOL!
I'll add your "2nd grader Stupidism" of your quote above to your other 2nd grader quotes shown below:
1. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Try harder. (comment #19)
2. BrotherD.Thomas is so intelligent that his IQ stats maxed out and went back to zero. (comment #17)
3. Why do you talk like you head-butt walls in your sparetime? (comment #14)
4. Give yourself a break from the tiring mental aerobics. (comment #12)
5. You’re typing too much. (comment #9)
6. The vibes I’m sensing are, “WAAAAAAAAHHH IM TRIGGERED” (comment #7)
7. Not a single person can currently decipher what it is you are rambling about. (comment #6)
8. I apologize you had to deal with that fool. He shit-posts everywhere he goes.
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NEXT MEMBER THAT IS A CHILD LIKE "SIR.LANCELOT" THAT IS PRETENDING TO BE AN ADULT OF WHICH IS SHOWN THAT HE IS NOT BY MAKING GRADE SCHOOL COMMENTS, WILL BE ... ?
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WeaverofFate, who runs away from Jesus' true doctrine,
I am sorry, but Jesus and I have to relive your Bible ignorance again, where in your round 5 needless and long-winded dissertation, barring your CRYBABY PLEADING all the time for the membership to vote for you, your ignorant Bible quote is shown below:
“Jesus was born on December 25th ------> We have Biblical proof to believe he was born on that date -------> People choosing to celebrate that day for his birthday are justified according to the Bible ------> Therefore, Bible believers can and should celebrate Christmas to further honor Christ even more than they normally could.”
What part of my comment #10 didn’t you understand? https://www.debateart.com/debates/3955/comment-links/48692 ... Was it the FACTUAL parts of it in making you the continued Bible fool? Huh?
YOU are ADDING WORDS to Jesus’ inspired words by being Bible dumbfounded in saying that Jesus was EXACTLY born on December 25th, as I had shown you in my comment #10 that is wishful thinking and cannot be true in an absolute sense! Get it? Huh?
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Therefore, because of your Bible ineptness in front of the membership in ADDING WORDS to the Bible, you are guilty of another Jesus inspired passages shown herewith: “I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: IF ANYONE ADDS TO THEM, God will add to him the plagues described in this book,” (Revelation 22:18)
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NEXT PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN LIKE "WEAVEROFFATE" THAT GETS ON HIS KNEES AND PLEADS THE MEMBERSHIP TO VOTE FOR HIM, AND IN ADDITION, UNGODLY ADDS WORDS TO JESUS' INSPIRED BIBLE, WILL BE ... ?
YOUR QUOTE OF REMOVING ONE OF YOUR FEET FROM YOUR MOUTH, TO INSERT THE OTHER: "He lacks the brain cells to hold a discussion and doesn’t have the courage to debate either of us."
Firstly, what part of this comment post to you didn't you understand, whiny little boy that makes grade-school statements?: https://www.debateart.com/debates/4029/comment-links/48891
Secondly, because you didn't understand the content of my post above, then you obviously didn't take advantage of bringing your reading comprehension to a higher 2nd grade level as I proposed you to do in this link: https://www.debateart.com/debates/4029/comment-links/48861
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NEXT PSEUDO-DEBATER LIKE "SIR.LANCELOT" THAT CAN'T UNDERSTAND SIMPLE READING, BUT FAILS TO TAKE CLASSES TO ENHANCE HIS READING SKILLS TO AT LEAST A 2ND GRADE LEVEL, WILL BE ... ?
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rayhan16 and the equally dumbfounded of debate, Sir.Lancelot,
You two kids are like 2 peas in a pod, whereas you are both trying in vain to be worthy in this ADULT Religion forum! But, as shown in the comment section alone, you two fall flat on your Satanic asses when I question you debate fools! LOL
At your expense, Jesus and I will continue to see how the both of you do on rounds 4 and 5 where you will obviously give the membership more laughter in your ineptness upon the topic, and in not getting to the point of the topic faster, but slow working it in your tiresome rhetoric. Sad indeed, but what did we expect from you two kids? :)
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NEXT WANNABE DEBATERS LIKE "SIR.LANCELOT" AND THE LYING MUSLIM "RAYHAN16," WILL BE ... ?
Addressing your continued Qur’an bible stupidity relative to my comment #26:
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In chronological order of Qur'an 9:33
(5:31) Thereupon Allah sent forth a raven who began to scratch the earth to show him how he might cover the corpse of his brother. So seeing he cried: 'Woe unto me! Was I unable even to be like this raven and find a way to cover the corpse of my brother? Then he became full of remorse at his doing
(5:32) Therefore We ordained for the Children of Israel that he who slays a soul unless it be (in punishment) for murder or for spreading mischief on earth shall be as if he had slain all mankind; and he who saves a life shall be as if he had given life to all mankind. And indeed again and again did Our Messengers come to them with clear directives; yet many of them continued to commit excesses on earth.
[5:33] Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam.
HEADS UP LIAR! As shown above, there was NO provoking of others or attacking of Muslims like you erroneously said in your comment #28, understood Muslim LIAR?
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It is being profoundly seen that you think the membership is as dumbfounded as YOU are of your unpeaceful Muslim religion, whereas, we are NOT at your embarrassing expense! ... Get it Muslim Qur'an fool?
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NEXT DUMBFOUNDED MUSLIM LIKE "RAYHAN16," THAT THINKS THEIR RELIGION IS PEACEFUL, WHICH IS SHOWN TO BE A LIE, WILL BE … ?
Addressing your continued Qur’an bible stupidity relative to my comment #26:
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In chronological order of Qur'an 9:30
[9:28] Believers, those who associate others with Allah in His Divinity are unclean. So, after the expiry of this year, let them not even go near the Sacred Mosque. And should you fear poverty, Allah will enrich you out of His bounty, if He wills. Surely Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.
[9:29] Those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day - even though they were given the scriptures, and who do not hold as unlawful that which Allah and His Messenger have declared to be unlawful, and who do not follow the true religion - fight against them until they pay tribute out of their hand and are utterly subdued.28
[9:30] “The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them.”
HEADS UP LIAR! As shown above, there was NO provoking of others or attacking of Muslims like you erroneously said in your comment #28, understood Muslim LIAR?
Addressing your continued Qur’an bible stupidity relative to my comment #26:
In chronological order of Qur'an 9:5
[9:3] This is a public proclamation by Allah and His Messenger to all people on the day of the Great Pilgrimage:4 "Allah is free from all obligation to those who associate others with Allah in His Divinity; and so is His Messenger. If you repent, it shall be for your own good; but if you turn away, then know well that you will not be able to frustrate Allah. So give glad tidings of a painful chastisement to those who disbelieve.
[9:4] In exception to those who associate others with Allah in His Divinity are those with whom you have made treaties and who have not violated their treaties nor have backed up anyone against you. Fulfil your treaties with them till the end of their term. Surely Allah loves the pious.”
[9:5] "When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them”
HEADS UP LIAR! As shown above, there was NO provoking of others or attacking of Muslims like you erroneously said in your comment #28, understood Muslim LIAR?
YOUR LYING QUOTE TO MY COMMENT #26 REGARDING THE 4 QUR'AN PASSAGES IN QUESTION; ''when they attack you"
Wrong LYING Muslim Qur'an fool! ... You are as dumbfounded as the little whiney boy Sir. Lancelot in his lacking debating skills!
Each and every one of the said passages in my comment #26 were NOT provoked by anyone or when the Muslims were attacked, LIAR!
In chronological order proving this FACT above is Qur'an 9:123;
[9:121] Likewise, each amount they spend, be it small or large, and each journey they undertake, shall be recorded in their favour so that Allah may bestow upon them reward for their good deeds.
[9:122] It was not necessary for the believers to go forth all together (to receive religious instruction), but why did not a party of them go forth that they may grow in religious understanding, and that they may warn their people when they return to them, so that they may avoid (erroneous attitudes)?
[9:123] Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood.
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HEADS UP LIAR! As shown above, there was NO provoking of others or attacking of Muslims like you erroneously said in your comment #28, understood Muslim LIAR? Now wipe the egg off of your face!
YOUR QUOTE IN OBVIOUSLY ADMITTING THAT YOU ARE A WHINEY LITTLE BOY DEBATER: "Predicable"
Yes! It was "PREDICABLE" for you to bring forth more "little boy" statements in a debate with you, therefore you understood that it was a waste of my time to delve through even more of your child-like antics in a debate, equal to the ones shown below AGAIN, praise! 2+2=4.
1. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Try harder. (comment #19)
2. BrotherD.Thomas is so intelligent that his IQ stats maxed out and went back to zero. (comment #17)
3. Why do you talk like you head-butt walls in your sparetime? (comment #14)
4. Give yourself a break from the tiring mental aerobics. (comment #12)
5. You’re typing too much. (comment #9)
6. The vibes I’m sensing are, “WAAAAAAAAHHH IM TRIGGERED” (comment #7)
7. Not a single person can currently decipher what it is you are rambling about. (comment #6)
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NEXT DUMBFOUNDED LITTLE BOY DEBATER LIKE "SIR.LANCELOT" THAT ADMITS THAT HE IS NOT WORTHY DEBATING BECAUSE OF HIS GRADE-SCHOOL ANTICS, WILL BE ... ?
I have many instances that explicitly show your hell bound Muslim faith is NOT peaceful, where a few of many are shown below:
1. "Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood" (Qur’an9:123)
2. "When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them" (Qur’an 9:5) (Infidels equal Jews, Christians, and any other religion that don’t believe in Allah)
3. "The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them." (Qur’an 9:30)
4. "Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam." (Qur’an 5:33)
rayhan16, what RUNNING SHOES are you going to wear this time as you once again runaway from the above Qur'an passages where the Muslim faith was invented by a pedophile name Muhammed that had a SIX YEAR OLD GIRL CHILD NAMED AISHA to sexually play with?
YOUR QUOTE: "Yes, I acknowledge you have a very powerful way with words, maybe save it for a debate. Me and you?"
As with the whiney "little boy" mentality of Sir. Lancelot, I am supposed to take my valuable time and debate YOU as well, surely you jest when you specifically stated the following:
YOUR HYPOCRITICAL QUOTE IN COMMENT #16: "You are either new to this site or think you are the main character. Grow up, no one gives a toss what you say, stop wasting your own time typing all of that crap and do something productive, go on a walk, talk to your parents etc. Weirdo."
Since as you stated above, I am to grow up, and you say no one gives a toss in what I say, and I am to stop wasting my time typing stuff that makes you the Muslim religious fool, and do something productive, etc., etc., etc,. and subsequent to what you said to me in your aforementioned comments shown herewith, THEN YOU WANT ME TO DEBATE YOU?! ROFLOL! Can you spell your "C-O-N-T-R-A-D-I-C-T-I-O-N ... I-N ... T-E-R-M-S?" Sure you can. What a dolt you are. :(
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NO, I don't have the time in a debate setting, where you have to do this, you have to do that, the rounds, rating mode, voting, the timing of days, hours and minutes, yada, yada, yada, where I get to the point of the topic in question FAST in a forum setting, understood? Yes? Maybe?
You have two rounds left, where Jesus and I will comment upon at your Hell bound Muslim expense, get it?
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NEXT DUMBFOUNDED MUSLIM OF THE FAITH LIKE "RAYHAN16" THAT IS A HYPOCRITE TO WHAT HE SAID EARLIER TO ME AS SHOWN ABOVE, WILL BE ... ?
What didn't you understand when I told YOU the following in my comment #18 quoted herewith: "Yep, sooner or later the inept of debating like YOU, always has to digress to a grade-school setting as you have done with your "little boy" quote above, it never fails!"
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Therefore, surely you jest in that I am supposed to debate you when you have "little boy" grade-school attributes and tactics that I would have to wade through to decipher your lack of debating skills in getting to the point of the topic at hand, like are shown below:
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The juvenile Sir Lancelot's kiddie statements to me in the comment thread:
1. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Try harder. (comment #19)
2. BrotherD.Thomas is so intelligent that his IQ stats maxed out and went back to zero. (comment #17)
3. Why do you talk like you head-butt walls in your sparetime? (comment #14)
4. Give yourself a break from the tiring mental aerobics. (comment #12)
5. You’re typing too much. (comment #9)
6. The vibes I’m sensing are, “WAAAAAAAAHHH IM TRIGGERED” (comment #7)
7. Not a single person can currently decipher what it is you are rambling about. (comment #6)
Look at your outright "little boy" feeble responses to me ABOVE in making you the debate fool of this forum, and you want me to waste my time in debating you when your mental state is that of a whiny little child? NOT! ROFLOL!!! I only "discuss" religion with adults, and YOU as explicitly shown, are NOT an adult in any way whatsoever because of your 7 inept comments above! Get it little boy debater? Huh?
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NEXT MEMBER OF DEBATEART THAT HAS A CHILD-LIKE MENTALITY LIKE "SIR LANCELOT," AND SHOWS THIS IN THEIR 7 RESPONSES ABOVE, THAT WANTS TO WASTE THE TIME OF BROTHER D. THOMAS IN A DEBATE, WILL BE ... ? LOL!
YOUR QUOTE OF AGREEING WITH ME THAT YOUR DESPICABLE RELIGION OF ISLAM IS NOT PEACEFUL: "Thank you, appreciate it."
I am assuming that you are referencing my comment #2 and #4 where you were made the LYING Muslim Fool! Good boy, you are coming to terms with actual FACTS about your faith as I have shown you AND with back-up material to prove it from Muslim writings!
As the membership can see, you are still SCARED out of your wits to address this passage in your Qur'an: "Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax" (Qur’an 9:29) .......... Remember, Allah is watching YOU run away from defending the faith: Tafsir of Chapter 049 Verse 18: "Verily, Allah knows the hidden things of the heavens and earth and ALLAH SEES WHATEVER YOU DO."
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YOUR QUOTE THAT SHOWS YOU ARE AT RECESS AT A GRADE-SCHOOL: "Why do you talk like you head-butt walls in your sparetime?"
Yep, sooner or later the inept of debating like YOU, always has to digress to a grade-school setting as you have done with your "little boy" quote above, it never fails!
Since you are now resorting to grade-school tactics, I will not bother you anymore to save you from further embarrassment in front of the membership, where again, you can thank me later, okay?
Now, for your sake, you need to have the last word, therefore BEGIN:
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NEXT PSEUDO DEBATER LIKE SIR.LANCELOT WHOSE DEBATE STATEMENTS ARE LAUGHABLE AND TOO LONG TO GET TO THE POINT, WILL BE ... ?
YOUR QUOTE ONCE AGAIN IN NOT STICKING TO THE TOPIC: "Give yourself a break from the tiring mental aerobics. Analyzing debates and writing coherently aren’t your strong points."
First thing, why would I even think of "analyzing" your feeble debate's refutations? You were kidding, correct? LOL!
What I have brought forth in a few statements in the comment section, is irrelative to your rounds of debate to begin with, and far surpasses your fragile statements to the RUNAWAY pseudo Muslim rayfan16! Where are you getting your material of debate on the topic in question, from a Cracker Jack's Box, huh? LOL!
Furthermore, as you can see, the Qur'an inept "rayfan16" would NEVER bring forth what I have in my comments because they would derail his presupposition of Islam not being a peaceful religion, get it? Maybe?
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Heads up, you only have 2 rounds left to "try" and make your position believable with FACTS, therefore, get a good nights sleep so as not to make yourself the fool in this debate, okay? You're welcome!
Jesus H. Christ, kids like YOU have so much to learn in presenting your debates, and the tactics thereof. Sad indeed. :(
YOUR EMBARRASSING ADMITTANCE THAT YOU CAN'T "DECIPHER" THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE: "Not a single person can currently decipher what it is you are rambling about."
Barring your overrun statements in your debate rounds that are way too long, and not getting to the point, and your vacant biography because you are obviously to scared to put the truth within it about your modus operandi, then in you not being able to "decipher" my statements, then you are blatantly in need of an online reading comprehension class!
For your convenance, here are a few "reading comprehension" classes for you to look into, okay? You can thank me later. Good luck!
YOUR QUOTE: "You’re typing too much. Trolling isn’t supposed to require this much effort."
Conversely, then you are typing too much in your rounds of debate, where obviously you're not at the stage yet to deduce your refutations in a more pleasing way to get to the point first and foremost in your debate. We look forward to you accomplishing this feat in your future debates.
Since when is it trolling to correct a dumbfounded Muslim about his own faith, especially since rayhan16 embarrassingly runs away from it as shown? You're funny. :)
YOUR PITIFUL QUOTE IN ONCE AGAIN RUNNING AWAY FROM YOUR ISLAMIC FAITH: "Writing in capital letters does not help your cause. If you really want to comment, challenge me for a debate. If not, good day."
The capital letters are shown for my initial statement, understood? Now, whats your next EXCUSE to run away from your faith in embarrassment? Will it be the following:
"WAIT, you cannot quote scripture from the Qur'an on Wednesday that makes me look like a fool and if you are wearing pants, and it is past 9am in the morning." LOL!
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Why should I take the time in debating you and easily burying your weak refutations, when you are showing the membership that you are RUNNING AWAY from discussion in the first place from my comments to you! In this situation, I would be wasting my time! Get it Muslim RUNAWAY?!
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NEXT PSEUDO MUSLIM LIKE RAYHAN16 THAT HAS TO USE CHILD LIKE EXCUSES TO RUN FROM DISCUSSION REGARDING HIS PRIMITIVE MUSLIM FAITH, WILL BE ... ?
YOUR RUNAWAY QUOTE FROM YOUR DISGUSTING ISLAMIC BELIEF SYSTEM: "Realistically, I don't need to read that, so you have wasted your time in writing."
There is absolutely no time wasted in showing how your despicable belief system is sickening in the 21st century, understood? Therefore, when you tersely ran away from my Islamic embarrassing facts, you went against your Allah in the Qur'an when his inspired words stated that YOU ARE TO DEFEND the faith:
"Then We revealed the Book to you (O Muhammad!) with Truth, confirming whatever of the Book was revealed before, and protecting and guarding over it." (Qur'an 5:48)
Or, are you running away from the discussion because your Allah god says to do so in the first place? LOL!!!
"The Prophet (pbuh) said: I guarantee a house in Paradise for one who leaves arguments even if he is right." (Reference: Sunan Abi Dawud 4800, Book 43, Hadith 28 In-book reference:)
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NEXT MUSLIM LIKE "RAYHAN16" THAT HAS ALREADY LOST THIS DEBATE BECAUSE HE IS TO WEAK TO EVEN TRY TO DEFEND THE MUSLIM DISTURBING FACTS THAT I PRESENTED TO HIM IN MY COMMENT #2 RELATIVE TO ISLAM IS NOT A PEACEFUL RELIGION, WILL BE ... ?
"Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax" (Qur’an 9:29)
YES! Now before you comically turn yourself into a pretzel in spinning yourself into contortions with Islamic apologetics, and go through your many different "translations" of the verse shown above, where what is says literally, is not really what it says, the barbaric Islamic religion seemingly will be peaceful when your pagan belief KILLS all Christians and Jews if they don't convert to Islam!
The sickening part of your Islamic belief is it was founded upon by the PEDOPHILE named Muhammed in keeping a 6 year old girl named Aisha in his possession for "play," and eventually marrying her when she was 9 years old! Can you spell "P-E-D-O-P-H-I-L-E M-U-H-A-M-M-E-D," sure you can! (Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234: Narrated Aisha)
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YOUR INSIDIOUS QUOTE: "I don't understand Con's need to include this quote in because if a person commits a crime, a punishment is there for him."
Oh, oh, then in these passages below there was no crimes met for punishment yet to the Hell bound muslim, therefore the Muslim is to do the following, INCLUDING YOU, and if you don't slay the pagans, aka, Christians and Jews, then Allah will punish YOU! Get it Muslim fool?:
"Fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them and seize them, confine them, and lie in wait for them in every place of ambush." (Surah 9:5)
"If you do not fight, Allah will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men." (Surah 9:37-)
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Rayhan16, as if your primitive Islamic religion being shown NOT to be peaceful throughout history, and in addition, have you ever had to mutilate a young girl of her clitoris because it is ungodly for her to have pleasure in sex acts? https://www.imagebam.com/view/MEHVIFK
To prevent you from further embarrassment towards your Islamic religion, a simple yes or no will suffice.
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Female_Genital_Mutilation
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RAISE YOUR HANDS IF YOU ARE TOTALLY INEPT IN WANTING TO BE A HELL BOUND MUSLIM WITH ITS TRUE HORRIFIC FACTS, NOT!
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YouFound_Lxam, that wants to be "Bible Dumber" than Miss Tradesecret,
PLEASE, do yourself a favor and this forum as well, and tell the moderators to shut down your thread shown in this following link where you said: "God exists, and I can prove it:" https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8271-god-exists-and-i-can-prove-it
You have to shut down your thread above because you were easily made the Bible fool on your said topic, and then to add more insult to your injury at this point, you CONCEDED that you can't even prove; "God most likely exists" in your pathetic debate as shown in your round 2! LOL!
ENOUGH of your "what you think you know" about the Bible, and blatantly don't!
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NEXT PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN LIKE "YOUFOUND_LXAM" THAT FINALLY ACCEPTS THAT HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT BY FINALLY CONCEDING HIS DEBATE OF "GOD MOST LIKELY EXISTS" TO PROVE THIS FACT, WILL BE ... ?
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WeaverofFate, who runs away from Jesus’ true doctrine,
YOUR QUOTE OF DESPAIR AGAIN: “Oh great, I got vote bombed by the same troll from my other debate.”
If you want to equate your Bible ignorance to getting vote bombed by me, okay! But, our esteemed moderator Barney removed said vote of which I disagree with, but so be it because you are still Bible ignorant!
In essence with the definition of a troll, THINK, you are TROLLING this Debate forum with your Bible ignorance and stupidity because you are instigating the astute Bible knowledge of others, over your pre-school knowledge of same, to CORRECT your Bible ineptness! Get it?
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YOUR QUOTE OF EMBARRASSMENT IN “PLEADING” WITH INTELLIGENCE_06 TO VOTE FOR YOU: “Could you do me a favor and vote on this debate please? This guy has been trolling on my other debate, I didn't think he'd follow me. I'd rather an unbiased person vote here.”
What an ungodly “CRYBABY” you are in wanting someone to vote for you, where if they do, they accept your outright Bible stupidity and ignorance as shown by me in your round 1 dissertation in my post numbers 9 and 10!
Why don’t you just insidiously and secretly message Intelligence_06 and tell him you will pay for him to vote for you through PayPal? LOL!
How do you perceive that I am allegedly trolling you, when in fact, I am correcting your Bible stupidity and ignorance? When you stated; “I didn’t think he’d follow me,” relates to the fact that you were embarrassed in your other debate subsequent to me correcting you again Biblically, and you were hopeful that I didn’t follow you to this debate where I have to correct you biblically AGAIN!
WeaverofFate, who runs away from Jesus’ true doctrine,
You are the complete definition of a PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN where you have to RUN AWAY from my biblical posts to you in correcting your Bible ignorance, and wherefore you have to hide from them without discussion! Don’t think that Jesus isn’t watching you (Hebrews 4:13) perform this ungodly act of disrespecting Him!
When you blatantly run away from biblical axioms from me, can you at least tell the membership in what running shoes you wear, are they Adidas, Converse, Nike, or? This video is what you represent when running from Jesus’ words:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI7ni7zL8qU
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Since that is your wife in your pictured moniker, she’s cute even with a mask on, nonetheless, tell her to get back into the kitchen and do her womanly duties of cooking and/or housekeeping as Jesus’ inspired words direct her to do:
“Then they can urge the younger women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled and pure, TO BE BUSY AT HOME, to be kind, AND TO BE SUBJECT TO THEIR HUSBANDS, so that no one will malign the word of God.” (Titus 2:4-5)
Then you propose that woman are to be respected, NOT! When Christian, they are to accept their 2nd class Biblical status and obey their husbands and other Bible axioms that I have presented to you, AND that you have RAN AWAY from, period!
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NEXT PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN EQUAL TO WEAVEROFFATE THAT RUNS AWAY FROM JESUS’ TRUE TEACHINGS, WILL BE … ?
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YouFound_Lxam, that wants to be "Bible Dumber" than Miss Tradesecret,
YOUR QUOTE IN ROUND 1:
A lot of laws and regulations are based in morals.
For instance:
It is illegal to kill someone, because it is morally wrong.
It is illegal to steal, because it is morally wrong.
It is illegal to rape, because it is morally wrong.
In the same way, it should be illegal to get an abortion, because it is morally wrong.
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QUESTION: Is it morally wrong for our Jesus as God, to outright MURDER innocent zygotes, fetus' and babies as He proposes in the book of Hosea, where Jesus as God gave Ephraim women miscarrying wombs and caused abortions, and if said babies were born and survived, Jesus as God would would SLAY their beloved children!
“The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for their children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived. Even if your children survive to grow up, I will take them from you. It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone. I have watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre. But now Israel will bring out her children to be slaughtered oh Lord. what should I request for your people? I will ask for the wombs that don’t give birth and breast that give no milk. The LORD says, "All their wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them. I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions. I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels. The people of Israel are stricken. Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit. And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children. (Hosea 9:11-16)
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You may BEGIN your answer to the above Biblical axiom:
Regarding your round 1 Satanic dissertation in your debate upon the topic: "Bible believers should not engage in or celebrate Christmas December 25th," I feel that I should “school you” once again upon your outright Bible ignorance, okay? Thank you.
YOUR IGNORANT QUOTE OF JESUS’ BIRTHDAY: “However, there are certain Biblical proofs to suggest that Christ may have been born on the 25th of December.”
Key words in your inept statement above; “Christ MAY HAVE BEEN BORN” on the 25th of December, which is NOT an absolute! Understood?
YOUR QUOTE OF MOVING THE GOAL POSTS AT WILL: “While the exact date of his birth is never directly stated in the Bible, we can cross-reference the dates of events happening around the time Mary was pregnant to estimate the rough time of Jesus’ birth.“
Key words in your wishful thinking statement above: “to estimate the ROUGH TIME” of Jesus’ birth. GET IT? Huh?
If it is a “rough time,” meaning not a specific date whatsoever, then how in the hell can you promote that Jesus was born EXACTLY on December 25, and where the gestation of Mary can range drastically, like you ignorantly quoted here: “Assuming she would have a normal nine-month gestation period, THE DATE OF DECEMBER 25 MAKES BIBLICAL SENSE to attribute it to the birth of Christ.” LOL!
NO IT DOES NOT make biblical sense other than you erroneously trying in vain to promote exactly December 25th as Jesus’ birthday! If you knew your religious history, this date was Mithra's birthday, the god of the unconquerable sun, that for Romans, was the most sacred day of the year! True Christians like myself accept that Christianity stole the concept of the pagan God Mithra and made Him into Jesus. READ YOUR HISTORY!
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At least you are giving the membership laughter in your ungodly wishful thinking to this point, thank you! Have you thought of taking this skit of yours to Saturday Night Live comedy show?
YOUR WISHFUL THINKING QUOTE ONCE AGAIN: “Whether you are Christian or simply believe in parts of the Bible, you must believe that it is your duty to spread the Gospel so that other people may be saved.”
Seriously, why take the time to promote our serial killer Jesus in saving anyone, especially when Jesus states the following:
"For many are called, 'but few are chosen," (Matthew. 22:14).
Furthermore, when you say a Christian can believe in “parts of the Bible," NO they can not! Its all or nothing because every word of the Bible is inspired by Jesus as God, understood?! (1 Thessalonians 2:13)
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YOUR QUOTE RELATING TO THE 2ND CLASS WOMAN AS SHOWN THROUGHOUT THE BIBLE: “Take the birthday of your wife for instance ….. However, her birthday is special; you plan out a particular celebration to ensure that she feels special …”
NOT! The many wives that I have had over the years understood their 2nd class biblical position, and where the Bible says they are NOT special, especially when they try and usurp the authority over the superior man as biblically shown below:
“Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, SHE IS TO REMAIN QUIET. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor." (1 Timothy 2:11-14)
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ AND THE HEAD OF EVERY WOMAN IS MAN. For the man is not of the women; but the woman of the man.” (1Corinthians 11: 3,8 )
"The women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church." (1 Corinthians 14:34-35)
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In any event, I thought you were Bible stupid in your ever so wanting responses regarding “Jesus was a false prophet” debate, as I had easily shown you in the comment section, sorry. But, after seeing your Bible ignorance in this debate as well, then you continue to be Bible stupid at your expense in front of the membership. Seriously, have you actually ever read the Bible, or are you like so many other pseudo-christians, you are “spoon-fed” your doctrine at church on Sunday mornings? Sad indeed. :(
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YouFound_Lxam, who wants to be more "Bible Dumber" than Miss Tradesecret,
Just look in how you acquiesced in your two threads below, where the first one you were absolute that Jesus, as God, existed. Then in your debate thread you now say that Jesus as God "Likely Exists" which implies that you are not sure! How pathetic can you get, even as you being a pseudo-christian, where don't think that Jesus isn't watching you back-pedal on His existence! (Hebrews 4:13). You're a joke to this prestigious religion forum AND to Christianity as well!
God exists, and I Can Prove It.
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8271-god-exists-and-i-can-prove-it
God Most Likely Exists
https://www.debateart.com/debates/3993-god-most-likely-exists
NEXT PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN LIKE "YOUFOUND_LXAM" THAT IS NOT REALLY SURE THAT JESUS AS GOD EXISTS AND STILL WANTS TO BE ERRONEOUSLY CALLED A CHRISTIAN, WILL BE ... ?
YOUR HONEST QUOTE TO THE BIBLE FOOL YOUFOUND_LXAM: "I am confused though, you decided to respond to some of my arguments and then conceded at the end, so you're giving up? And if so, why?"
As I stated, "Youfound_lxam" gave up at the onset when his title for the debate was; "God most likely exists" which is NOT an absolute as the Bible states with specificity that Jesus, as the serial killer God, truly exists!
As we all realize, YouFound_Lxam has the reading comprehension of a dead flattened crow on a Texas backroad. :(
YOUR QUOTE OF LYING ONCE AGAIN!: "It's hilarious how you feel so passionate about religion, yet you refuse to accept debates from anyone."
No Bible fool, it is hilarious that I Bible Slapped you Silly®️ in your 2 inane threads of yours, where you had to retreat and run away from me making you the Bible fool when you used your little boy excuse herewith: "Brother D. is a troll, and that is why I have decided to stop replying to him."remember LIAR?
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8377/post-links/363322
Heads up, we are DEBATING in your threads, get it? Huh? LOL!
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YouFound_Lxam, who is easily trying to be bible dumber than Miss Tradesecret,
OMG, YOUR QUOTE LEAVING YOURSELF WIDE OPEN IN YOUR OPENING STATEMENTS!: "I shall prove my case using 6 proofs for why God probably exists:"
You say "probably" God exists, which is NOT an absolute to your argument to begin with, where you have already LOST! ? LOL!
Furthermore, show respect and specifically state that "Jesus exists as God" (1 Timothy 2:5), and not just using his "title" God, understood?
It is totally amazing that you want to be bloodied up again in taking this debate where you were embarrassingly shown in your thread upon this same topic, where you were made the outright Bible fool!
Very simple question, you have to put the "horse before the cart" before your debate that was in the primitive Bronze and Iron Age?! HELLO?
Therefore, pick one of the many gods shown below BEFORE you start to debate said topic of "God is Real!"
Azura Mazda, Angus, Belenos, Brigid, Dana, Lugh, Dagda, Epona, Allah Aphrodite, Apollo, Ares, Artemis, Atehna, Demeter, Dionysus, Eris, Eos, Gaia, Hades, Hekate, Helios, Hephaestus, Hera, Hermes, Hestia, Pan, Poseidon, Selene, Uranus, Zeus, Mathilde, Elves, Eostre, Frigg, Ganesh, Hretha, Saxnot, Shef, Shiva Thuno, Tir, Vishnu, Weyland, Woden, Yahweh, Alfar, Balder, Beyla, Bil, Bragi, Byggvir, Dagr, Disir, Eir, Forseti, Freya, Freyr, Frigga, Heimdall, Hel, Hoenir, Idunn, Jord, Lofn, Loki, Mon, Njord, Norns, Nott, Odin, Ran, Saga, Sif, Siofn, Skadi, Snotra, Sol, Syn, Ull, Thor, Tyr, Var, Vali, Vidar, Vor, Herne, Holda, Nehalennia, Nerthus, Endovelicus, Ataegina, Runesocesius, Bacchus, Ceres, Cupid, Diana, Janus, Juno, Jupiter, Maia, Mars, Mercury, Minerva, Neptune, Pluto, Plutus, Proserpina, Venus, Vesta, Vulcan, Attis, Cybele, Jesus, El-Gabal, Isis, Mithras, Sol Invictus, Endovelicus, Anubis, Aten, Atum, Bast, Bes, Geb, Hapi, Hathor, Heget, Horus, Imhotep, Isis, Khepry, Khnum, Maahes, Ma"at, Menhit, Mont, Naunet, Neith, Nephthys, Nut, Osiris, Ptah, Ra, Sekhmnet, Sobek, Set, Tefnut, Thoth, An, Anshar, Anu, Apsu, Ashur, Damkina, Ea, Enki, Enlil, Yeshua, Ereshkigal, Nunurta, Hadad, Inanna, Ishtar, Kingu, Kishar, Marduk, Mummu, Nabu, Nammu, Nanna, Nergal, Ninhursag, Ninlil, Nintu, Shamash, Sin, Tiamat, Utu, Mitra, Amaterasu, Susanoo, Tsukiyomi, Inari, Tengu, Izanami, Izanagi, Daikoku, Ebisu, Benzaiten, Bishamonten, Fukurokuju, Jurojin, Hotei, Quetzalcoatl, Tlaloc, Inti, Kon, Mama Cocha, Mama Quilla, Manco Capac, Pachacamac and Zaramama, Vera.
You can thank me later for enlightening you upon said topic.
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Mall,
YOUR BIBLE STUPID QUOTE IN YOUR ROUND 1: "In Matthew chapter 19, Jesus is speaking with the Pharisees. I'm not going to use the argument of silence saying because Jesus never spoke on homosexuality that it was dis-approved ."
WRONG BIBLE FOOL!
1. Jesus is God: "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.” (1 Timothy 2:5)
2. When Jesus is God, then He wrote the Bible through through His inspired words: "And we also thank God constantly for this, that when you received the word of God which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the word of God.” (1 Thessalonians 2:13)
3. When Jesus is the ONLY ONE GOD, and that ALL of the Bible, Old and New Testaments, were inspired by Him as written, then the following passages do show Jesus to dis-approve of homosexually, period!
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: THEY SHALL SURELY BE PUT TO DEATH; their blood shall be upon them." (Leviticus 20:13)
"For this cause God gave them up into vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet . . . Who knowing the judgment of God, THAT THEY WHICH COMMIT SUCH THINGS ARE WORTHY OF DEATH, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them" (Romans 1:26-27)
I suggest that you bone up upon Biblical axioms like shown above, before you make another drastic mistake like you've done already shown above!
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Decisively_Conservatist,
Your Bible ignorance forgot to say that all ungodly "Trannys" should respect what Jesus, as God, gave their gender to them at birth, and that they are NOT to change it in any way whatsoever!
"But he who is joined to the Lord becomes one spirit with him. Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body." (1 Corinthians 6:17-20)
I really hate dumbfounded pseudo-christians like you. :(
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WeaverofFate, and the Hell Bound atheist David,
Alleged prophecies to Identify Jesus as the Messiah, which Jesus DOES NOT Fulfill, therefore David wins, period! NEXT DEBATER?
1. Matthew 1:23 says that Jesus (the alleged messiah) would be called Immanuel, which means “God with us.” Yet NO ONE, not even his step parents, called Jesus "Immanuel" at any point in the bible whatsoever, period!
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2. The Messiah must be a PHYSICAL DESCENDANT of David (Romans 1:3 & Acts 2:30). Yet, how could Jesus meet this requirement since his genealogies in Matthew 1 and in Luke 3 show Jesus descended from David through Joseph, who WAS NOT his paternal father because of the Virgin Birth where Mary was celestially impregnated by her own SON Jesus threw spiritual incest! Besides, Mary was from the House of LEVI, and NOT from David, whereas, this prophecy simply fails completely!
TRUE Christians like myself have to accept the following image regarding the Virgin Birth: https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME9ZKOY
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3. Isaiah 7:16 seems to say that before Jesus had reached the age of maturity, both of the Jewish countries would be destroyed. Yet there is no mention of this prophecy being fulfilled in the New Testament with the coming of Jesus, hence this is another Messiah prophecy not fulfilled, duh!
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There is a "plethora" of other narratives in showing Jesus was NOT the Messiah, and was simply a false prophet, but you get the picture without me showing numerous other Bible passages that are equal or more truthful than these!
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WeaverofFate,
YOUR CONTINUED STUPIDITY QUOTE OF ISLAM AND THE HEBREW FAITH REGARDING JESUS: "I first must disagree with your definition of Jesus Christ. He is not only the central figure of Christianity; he is the an important prophet in Islam and other offshoots of the Abrahamic faiths. I agree with your definition of what you would consider a false prophet."
OMG, here we go again with your outright, unadulterated, Bible DUMBNESS again! Here are some important sources of disagreement. Among the three Abrahamic faiths, THAT ALL CONTRADICT EACH OTHER, is over the divinity of Jesus. Jews and Muslims reject the triune conception of God and place primacy on belief in One God. Christians contend that Jesus was the incarnate son of God who sacrificed his life for the salvation of others. Then again, the triune sects of Christianity believe that Jesus is GOD!
The hell bound Muslims believe that salvation is to be achieved by the belief in One God, which is the disgusting Allah! Of course, this is barring the PEDOPHILE Muhammed which was the deceiving impetus of the pagan Islamic faith to begin with!
WeaverofFate, you have so much to learn, that at your age, Jesus and I don't think you have that much time left to do so, and at your expense.
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Barney,
You posted a link in comment #1 where we assume you accept Dennis Prager's notion that If There’s No God, Then Murder Isn’t Wrong.
Since Jesus is the God of the Christians, and out of one of many times He committed murder within the scriptures, where in the case of Him murdering His entire creation in His "Great Flood," was Jesus wrong in doing this murderous act where His own inspired words to begin with says; "You shall not murder" (Deuteronomy 5:17) to set an example?
This is especially troublesome because in the Flood scenario, Jesus murdered "INNOCENT" zygotes within women in gestation, and babies treading the ocean waters screaming for their mothers before they went down into the ocean depth and dying a horrific suffocating death. These innocent human life didn't know of man's wickedness and evil, yet Jesus murdered them as well. (Genesis 5:5-6) Therefore, does Jesus’ murderous act upon the innocent as aforementioned described seem correct since He is known to be an all loving and forgiving God?
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Then there is the irony that Jesus is omniscient (1 John 2:20, Psalm 139:1–6 ), then He knew way beforehand that He was going to murder His creation in the Great Flood, where He knew His creation were going to act in the manner that they did in being evil! Therefore, is Jesus guilty of the most ungodly of murders, being “Premeditated Murder” which opens up a large can of worms?
Just running this proposition up the flag pole to see who salutes it! :)
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WeaverofFate, who doesn't know Jack Shyte about how to handle a Biblically 2nd class wife,
I read through your return comment, and used it for a "sleeping aide," thank you. Pertaining to your Sister of Eve wife, how did you meet your 2nd class woman for your future wife? Was it at a Christian Singles event? I met all of my 9 wives in the way Jesus’ inspired words said to do herewith,
I’ll just go over a few of them because there’re too many to list all of them, but an example is forthwith;
1. This was a hard one, no pun intended, but Jesus’ inspired words said if I cut off 200 foreskins of my future father-in-law’s enemies, I got his daughter which she was a beauty for my wife, praise! (1 Samuel 18:27)
2. Go to a party and hide. When the women you like comes out to dance, grab her and carry her off to be your wife, praise! (Judges 21:19-25)
Anyway, you get the picture, and I am sure that you are showing your “2nd Classer” these passages so she can be the biblically correct woman, are you not?” You better be, because Jesus is watching you (Hebrews 4:13)
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You just keep showing this following passage to your Sister of Eve wife lessor vessel, where she is to recite it daily 10 times:
“WIVES SUBMIT YOURSELVES TO YOUR HUSBANDS, as to the Lord. FOR THE HUSBAND IS THE HEAD OF THE WIFE even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, SO WIVES SHOULD SUBMIT IN EVERYTHING TO THEIR HUSBANDS." (Ephesians 5:22-24)
Commentary, I know you saw the key word in this passages, which was "everything," and you know what that relates to, even if she uses the excuse that she has a headache! Understood?
If she gives you lip regarding the passage above, smack said lip as per Proverbs 20:30 to remind her that she is only upon this earth as a helper for you, as per the contradicting Creation Narratives. We superior men over the woman will gain solace in knowing the biblical axiom that there will be NO WOMAN in heaven, apparently because we had to put up with them while upon earth, praise Jesus!
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NEXT PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN LIKE “WEAVEROFFATE” THAT DOESN’T KNOW HIS ASS FROM A WILD GRAPE IN HOW TO DEAL WITH HIS 2ND CLASS WIFE, WILL BE … ?
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WeaverofFate, who doesn't biblically know how to handle his 2nd class woman as his wife,
YOUR ONCE AGAIN CANDY- ASSED QUOTE: "Brother Thomas, with thy divine wisdom, how am I to discipline my wife ........."
Your assumed "divine wisdom" sucks hind teat, because you are still Bible stupid as I have shown the membership in this comment section. You keep showing everyone that you are still a "pseudo-christian" because you have to ask me in how to discipline your 2nd class wife! HELLO? You should have had that knowledge before marriage in conversation with your father in how he disciplined your mother!
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Here is the first rule of thumb in disciplining your wife with this Jesus inspired passage: "Blows that wound cleanse away evil; strokes make clean the innermost parts." (Proverbs 20:30) I assume that you can do the math regarding this verse, yes? Maybe? Do I have to draw you a picture? When you strike your wife with blows it will cleanse her from her wrongdoing, BUT, be very careful on the strokes to her "inner parts!" GET IT? Probably not. :(
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Jesus told me in prayer last night that you are to work on your Bible stupidity and ignorance, as it has been shown by me, and that you have RAN AWAY from as well in the comment section. You don't want that "pseudo-christian" sign hanging over your head on your pointed aluminum foiled hat all the time, do you? Of your you don't, therefore, pray to Jesus tonight in this manner to have said hat removed:
"But when you pray, GO INTO YOUR ROOM AND SHUT THE DOOR and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you." (Matthew 6:6)
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Intelligence_06,
YOUR QUOTE: "Thanks for helping me."
Uh, was that a patronizing statement, where you do not want me to show TRUE Christian morals inspired by Jesus the Christ as God anymore, where you in other words can handle your debate? Huh?
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WeaverofFate, who doesn't biblically know how to handle his 2nd class woman as his wife,
YOUR WUSSY PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN MODUS OPERANDI QUOTE: “I am kinda hungry so you may have a good point, how does one properly tell her to get in the kitchen, Brother Thomas?”
Do you see why you are nothing but a pseudo-christian at best? Huh? This is because you were flaunting over the woman in your debate that was totally wrong as I have biblically shown you many times in the comment section! Listen up, don't be a "wuss" because YOU are the controlling man, and your wife is biblically nothing but a 2nd class woman that YOU have the authority over with no questions asked, understood?
Your the superior man for Christ’s sake, therefore whenever you are hungry you agressively tell her to get her ass immediately into the kitchen and get those pots and pans rattling to fix breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and to be silent about it when doing so! GET IT?
“Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.” (1 Timothy 2:11;120)
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Furthermore, remember this Jesus as god inspired passage that shows the woman as weaker than man:
“Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor TO THE WOMAN AS A WEAKER VESSEL, since they are heirs with you of the grace of life, so that your prayers may not be hindered.” (1 Peter 3:7)
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Don’t be a “Candy Ass” pseudo-christian, take the lead in all affairs with your 2nd class woman, and let her read this passage:
“Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body. But as the church is subject to Christ, so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything.” (Ephesians 5:22-24)
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NEXT CANDY-ASS PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN LIKE “WEAVEROFFATE” THAT DOESN’T KNOW HOW TO BIBLICALLY HANDLE HIS 2ND CLASS WOMAN AS HIS WIFE, WILL BE … ?
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Intelligence_06, notoaot,
We need laughable entertainment, therefore when are you two debating comedians going to start, as in, shyte or get off the toilet!
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1. Meantime, the Christian morals allowed me to beat my children with a rod because they were getting out of line, praise Jesus' revenge upon my kids!:
JESUS AS GOD SAID: "Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou BEATEST him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt BEAT HIM with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell." (Proverbs.23:13-14)
2. Another moral Christian teaching was that my wives and I could sell our daughters into slavery, since we had too many mouths to feed in the first place, as this passage states herewith:
JESUS AS GOD SAID: “When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do.” (Exodus 21:7)
Do you two have any other Christian morals that you can add to this list?
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Sir.Lancelot,
YOUR REVEALING QUOTE OF EDITING CONSERVALLECTUAL'S VOTE TO YOU? LOL! "If you want to revote, you can always write a rough draft and run it by me before submitting it."
Seemingly, not only are you wanting the Bible inept pseudo-christian Conservallectual's vote, but you want to edit it in what YOU want him to say! How laughable it that?! Then you wonder why we laugh at your long-winded dissertations in YOU not getting to the point of the topic forthwith because of your non-debating skills. LOL!
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RAYHAN16 IS A NO VOTE SAYS ALLAH BECAUSE HE IS A LIAR!
The dumbfounded of the Qur’an RAYHAN16 deserves NO VOTES because of his blatant LYING about his faith, notwithstanding, that said faith was inspired by a PEDOPHILE named Muhammed in "toying around" with a 6 year old girl named Aisha! (Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234: Narrated Aisha)
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RAYHAN16, YOUR BLATANT MUSLIM LYING QUOTE!: “I have stated that whenever Muslims are commanded to go to war, there is always a case of self defense. A Muslim is only allowed to go to war if the enemy attacks first. In fact, you won't find a single war verse in the Quran that states to go to war and kill innocent people” https://www.debateart.com/debates/4029/comment-links/48964
Rayhan16, you have been RUNNING AWAY from the following 4 passages in the comment section since their inception, that explicitly show you to be the continued LIAR towards your pathetic faith of Islam relating to Muslims only go to war in self-defense, NOT!
In the following links, there was absolutely NO self-defense situations relating to Hell bound Muslims, whereas instead, without being provoked, and in chronological order, Muslims are told to attack others!
https://www.debateart.com/debates/4029/comment-links/48899 (Post #32)
https://www.debateart.com/debates/4029/comment-links/48900 (Post #33)
https://www.debateart.com/debates/4029/comment-links/48901 (Post #34)
https://www.debateart.com/debates/4029/comment-links/48902 (Post #35)
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Your initial problem is that you actually think the membership is as dumbfounded as you are regarding your Satanic Qur’an, where you being a LIAR as shown in this post, you are HELL BOUND!
"If they had been true to Allaah, it would have been better for them." [Muhammad 47:21]
The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: You must be truthful, for truthfulness leads to righteousness and righteousness leads to Paradise. A man will keep speaking the truth and striving to speak the truth until he will be recorded with Allaah as a siddeeq (speaker of the truth). BEWARE OF TELLING LIES, for lying leads to immorality AND IMMORALITY LEADS TO HELLFIRE. A man will keep telling lies and striving to tell lies until he is recorded with Allaah as a liar.
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NEXT LYING PSEUDO-MUSLIM LIKE “RAYHAN16” THAT EXPECTS VOTES FOR HIM SUBSEQUENT TO BLATANTLY LYING ABOUT HIS FAITH AS SHOWN IN THIS POST, WILL BE … ?
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WeaverofFate,
YOUR QUOTE REGARDING YOUR BIBLICALLY 2ND CLASS WIFE: "By the way, thanks for calling my wife cute"
She can be as cute as she wants, but in the meantime, get her ass back into the kitchen where she belongs!
https://www.imagebam.com/view/MEHYQIN
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WeaverofFate, remember this Jesus, as God, inspired passage regarding your 2nd class wife: "A quarrelsome wife is as annoying as constant dripping on a rainy day. Stopping her complaints is like trying to stop the wind or trying to hold something with greased hands." (Proverbs 27:15-16)
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Mall,
YOUR QUOTE OF CHRISTMAS, WHERE YOU FORGOT "IDOLS": "You can have your Christmas trees and Santa pagans. The Bible doesn't justify any of that."
How many pseudo-christian parents let their offspring get all excited over Santa Claus, where he becomes an idol to them in the true definition of the term. Therefore, these inept parents are going directly against Jesus' inspired words: "Little children, keep yourselves from idols." (John 5:21)
You are correct about the Christmas trees, where at Christmas time the pagan pseudo-christians like WEAVEROFFATE acquire a tree and decorate it with objects that AGAIN, goes against Jesus' inspired words herewith:
"Hear the word that the Lord speaks to you, O house of Israel. Thus says the Lord: “Learn not the way of the nations, nor be dismayed at the signs of the heavens because the nations are dismayed at them, for the customs of the peoples are vanity. A tree from the forest is cut down and worked with an axe by the hands of a craftsman. They decorate it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so that it cannot move. Their idols are like scarecrows in a cucumber field, and they cannot speak; they have to be carried, for they cannot walk. Do not be afraid of them, for they cannot do evil, neither is it in them to do good.” ..." (Jeremiah 10:1-25)
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I wish we could vote for the debater that RAN AWAY from Jesus' true words the most that I presented to them in my comments 9, 10, 16 AND 18, whereas that would be the most dumbfounded of the Bible, hands down, WEAVEROFFATE!
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WeaverofFate, that RUNS away from Jesus' true doctrine,
Listen, I completely understand that you cannot defend yourself in this comment section relative to me Bible Slapping you Silly®️ in my posts directed to you, AND, that you have had to RUNAWAY from because you cannot handle the truth of their content!
Don't worry, Jesus and I are keeping track of all of your Bible Stupidism's®️ that will be shown at the end of your sorrowful debate.
Tell your wife "hi" and then tell her that Jesus' inspired words says the following to her as a 2nd class woman: "The woman Folly is loud; she is seductive and knows nothing.” (Proverbs 9:13)
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NEXT PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN LIKE "WEAVEROFFATE" THAT RUNS AWAY FROM JESUS' TRUE WORDS AS SHOWN IN MY POSTS 9, 10, 16 AND 18 TO HIM, WILL BE ... ?
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Sir.Lancelot,
YOUR SECOND-GRADER STATEMENT AGAIN: "I apologize you had to deal with that fool. He shit-posts everywhere he goes."
Uh, the fool is the one that RUNS away from at least "trying" to defend yourself in what I TRULY said about you, other than to bring forth more 2nd grade comments like your feeble quote above. Every forum has kids like you pretending to be adults. Your inept mental state in your debates doesn't allow you to understand that you should feel embarrassed about your child-like statements! LOL!
I'll add your "2nd grader Stupidism" of your quote above to your other 2nd grader quotes shown below:
1. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Try harder. (comment #19)
2. BrotherD.Thomas is so intelligent that his IQ stats maxed out and went back to zero. (comment #17)
3. Why do you talk like you head-butt walls in your sparetime? (comment #14)
4. Give yourself a break from the tiring mental aerobics. (comment #12)
5. You’re typing too much. (comment #9)
6. The vibes I’m sensing are, “WAAAAAAAAHHH IM TRIGGERED” (comment #7)
7. Not a single person can currently decipher what it is you are rambling about. (comment #6)
8. I apologize you had to deal with that fool. He shit-posts everywhere he goes.
https://www.debateart.com/debates/4029/comment-links/48889
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NEXT MEMBER THAT IS A CHILD LIKE "SIR.LANCELOT" THAT IS PRETENDING TO BE AN ADULT OF WHICH IS SHOWN THAT HE IS NOT BY MAKING GRADE SCHOOL COMMENTS, WILL BE ... ?
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WeaverofFate, who runs away from Jesus' true doctrine,
I am sorry, but Jesus and I have to relive your Bible ignorance again, where in your round 5 needless and long-winded dissertation, barring your CRYBABY PLEADING all the time for the membership to vote for you, your ignorant Bible quote is shown below:
“Jesus was born on December 25th ------> We have Biblical proof to believe he was born on that date -------> People choosing to celebrate that day for his birthday are justified according to the Bible ------> Therefore, Bible believers can and should celebrate Christmas to further honor Christ even more than they normally could.”
What part of my comment #10 didn’t you understand? https://www.debateart.com/debates/3955/comment-links/48692 ... Was it the FACTUAL parts of it in making you the continued Bible fool? Huh?
YOU are ADDING WORDS to Jesus’ inspired words by being Bible dumbfounded in saying that Jesus was EXACTLY born on December 25th, as I had shown you in my comment #10 that is wishful thinking and cannot be true in an absolute sense! Get it? Huh?
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Therefore, because of your Bible ineptness in front of the membership in ADDING WORDS to the Bible, you are guilty of another Jesus inspired passages shown herewith: “I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: IF ANYONE ADDS TO THEM, God will add to him the plagues described in this book,” (Revelation 22:18)
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NEXT PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN LIKE "WEAVEROFFATE" THAT GETS ON HIS KNEES AND PLEADS THE MEMBERSHIP TO VOTE FOR HIM, AND IN ADDITION, UNGODLY ADDS WORDS TO JESUS' INSPIRED BIBLE, WILL BE ... ?
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Sir.Lancelot,
YOUR QUOTE OF REMOVING ONE OF YOUR FEET FROM YOUR MOUTH, TO INSERT THE OTHER: "He lacks the brain cells to hold a discussion and doesn’t have the courage to debate either of us."
Firstly, what part of this comment post to you didn't you understand, whiny little boy that makes grade-school statements?: https://www.debateart.com/debates/4029/comment-links/48891
Secondly, because you didn't understand the content of my post above, then you obviously didn't take advantage of bringing your reading comprehension to a higher 2nd grade level as I proposed you to do in this link: https://www.debateart.com/debates/4029/comment-links/48861
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NEXT PSEUDO-DEBATER LIKE "SIR.LANCELOT" THAT CAN'T UNDERSTAND SIMPLE READING, BUT FAILS TO TAKE CLASSES TO ENHANCE HIS READING SKILLS TO AT LEAST A 2ND GRADE LEVEL, WILL BE ... ?
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rayhan16 and the equally dumbfounded of debate, Sir.Lancelot,
You two kids are like 2 peas in a pod, whereas you are both trying in vain to be worthy in this ADULT Religion forum! But, as shown in the comment section alone, you two fall flat on your Satanic asses when I question you debate fools! LOL
At your expense, Jesus and I will continue to see how the both of you do on rounds 4 and 5 where you will obviously give the membership more laughter in your ineptness upon the topic, and in not getting to the point of the topic faster, but slow working it in your tiresome rhetoric. Sad indeed, but what did we expect from you two kids? :)
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NEXT WANNABE DEBATERS LIKE "SIR.LANCELOT" AND THE LYING MUSLIM "RAYHAN16," WILL BE ... ?
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rayhan16,
Addressing your continued Qur’an bible stupidity relative to my comment #26:
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In chronological order of Qur'an 9:33
(5:31) Thereupon Allah sent forth a raven who began to scratch the earth to show him how he might cover the corpse of his brother. So seeing he cried: 'Woe unto me! Was I unable even to be like this raven and find a way to cover the corpse of my brother? Then he became full of remorse at his doing
(5:32) Therefore We ordained for the Children of Israel that he who slays a soul unless it be (in punishment) for murder or for spreading mischief on earth shall be as if he had slain all mankind; and he who saves a life shall be as if he had given life to all mankind. And indeed again and again did Our Messengers come to them with clear directives; yet many of them continued to commit excesses on earth.
[5:33] Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam.
HEADS UP LIAR! As shown above, there was NO provoking of others or attacking of Muslims like you erroneously said in your comment #28, understood Muslim LIAR?
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It is being profoundly seen that you think the membership is as dumbfounded as YOU are of your unpeaceful Muslim religion, whereas, we are NOT at your embarrassing expense! ... Get it Muslim Qur'an fool?
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rayhan16,
Addressing your continued Qur’an bible stupidity relative to my comment #26:
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In chronological order of Qur'an 9:30
[9:28] Believers, those who associate others with Allah in His Divinity are unclean. So, after the expiry of this year, let them not even go near the Sacred Mosque. And should you fear poverty, Allah will enrich you out of His bounty, if He wills. Surely Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.
[9:29] Those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day - even though they were given the scriptures, and who do not hold as unlawful that which Allah and His Messenger have declared to be unlawful, and who do not follow the true religion - fight against them until they pay tribute out of their hand and are utterly subdued.28
[9:30] “The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them.”
HEADS UP LIAR! As shown above, there was NO provoking of others or attacking of Muslims like you erroneously said in your comment #28, understood Muslim LIAR?
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rayhan16,
Addressing your continued Qur’an bible stupidity relative to my comment #26:
In chronological order of Qur'an 9:5
[9:3] This is a public proclamation by Allah and His Messenger to all people on the day of the Great Pilgrimage:4 "Allah is free from all obligation to those who associate others with Allah in His Divinity; and so is His Messenger. If you repent, it shall be for your own good; but if you turn away, then know well that you will not be able to frustrate Allah. So give glad tidings of a painful chastisement to those who disbelieve.
[9:4] In exception to those who associate others with Allah in His Divinity are those with whom you have made treaties and who have not violated their treaties nor have backed up anyone against you. Fulfil your treaties with them till the end of their term. Surely Allah loves the pious.”
[9:5] "When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them”
HEADS UP LIAR! As shown above, there was NO provoking of others or attacking of Muslims like you erroneously said in your comment #28, understood Muslim LIAR?
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rayhan16,
YOUR LYING QUOTE TO MY COMMENT #26 REGARDING THE 4 QUR'AN PASSAGES IN QUESTION; ''when they attack you"
Wrong LYING Muslim Qur'an fool! ... You are as dumbfounded as the little whiney boy Sir. Lancelot in his lacking debating skills!
Each and every one of the said passages in my comment #26 were NOT provoked by anyone or when the Muslims were attacked, LIAR!
In chronological order proving this FACT above is Qur'an 9:123;
[9:121] Likewise, each amount they spend, be it small or large, and each journey they undertake, shall be recorded in their favour so that Allah may bestow upon them reward for their good deeds.
[9:122] It was not necessary for the believers to go forth all together (to receive religious instruction), but why did not a party of them go forth that they may grow in religious understanding, and that they may warn their people when they return to them, so that they may avoid (erroneous attitudes)?
[9:123] Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood.
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HEADS UP LIAR! As shown above, there was NO provoking of others or attacking of Muslims like you erroneously said in your comment #28, understood Muslim LIAR? Now wipe the egg off of your face!
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Sir.Lancelot,
YOUR QUOTE IN OBVIOUSLY ADMITTING THAT YOU ARE A WHINEY LITTLE BOY DEBATER: "Predicable"
Yes! It was "PREDICABLE" for you to bring forth more "little boy" statements in a debate with you, therefore you understood that it was a waste of my time to delve through even more of your child-like antics in a debate, equal to the ones shown below AGAIN, praise! 2+2=4.
1. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Try harder. (comment #19)
2. BrotherD.Thomas is so intelligent that his IQ stats maxed out and went back to zero. (comment #17)
3. Why do you talk like you head-butt walls in your sparetime? (comment #14)
4. Give yourself a break from the tiring mental aerobics. (comment #12)
5. You’re typing too much. (comment #9)
6. The vibes I’m sensing are, “WAAAAAAAAHHH IM TRIGGERED” (comment #7)
7. Not a single person can currently decipher what it is you are rambling about. (comment #6)
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NEXT DUMBFOUNDED LITTLE BOY DEBATER LIKE "SIR.LANCELOT" THAT ADMITS THAT HE IS NOT WORTHY DEBATING BECAUSE OF HIS GRADE-SCHOOL ANTICS, WILL BE ... ?
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rayhan16,
I have many instances that explicitly show your hell bound Muslim faith is NOT peaceful, where a few of many are shown below:
1. "Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood" (Qur’an9:123)
2. "When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them" (Qur’an 9:5) (Infidels equal Jews, Christians, and any other religion that don’t believe in Allah)
3. "The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them." (Qur’an 9:30)
4. "Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam." (Qur’an 5:33)
rayhan16, what RUNNING SHOES are you going to wear this time as you once again runaway from the above Qur'an passages where the Muslim faith was invented by a pedophile name Muhammed that had a SIX YEAR OLD GIRL CHILD NAMED AISHA to sexually play with?
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rayhan16,
YOUR QUOTE: "Yes, I acknowledge you have a very powerful way with words, maybe save it for a debate. Me and you?"
As with the whiney "little boy" mentality of Sir. Lancelot, I am supposed to take my valuable time and debate YOU as well, surely you jest when you specifically stated the following:
YOUR HYPOCRITICAL QUOTE IN COMMENT #16: "You are either new to this site or think you are the main character. Grow up, no one gives a toss what you say, stop wasting your own time typing all of that crap and do something productive, go on a walk, talk to your parents etc. Weirdo."
Since as you stated above, I am to grow up, and you say no one gives a toss in what I say, and I am to stop wasting my time typing stuff that makes you the Muslim religious fool, and do something productive, etc., etc., etc,. and subsequent to what you said to me in your aforementioned comments shown herewith, THEN YOU WANT ME TO DEBATE YOU?! ROFLOL! Can you spell your "C-O-N-T-R-A-D-I-C-T-I-O-N ... I-N ... T-E-R-M-S?" Sure you can. What a dolt you are. :(
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NO, I don't have the time in a debate setting, where you have to do this, you have to do that, the rounds, rating mode, voting, the timing of days, hours and minutes, yada, yada, yada, where I get to the point of the topic in question FAST in a forum setting, understood? Yes? Maybe?
You have two rounds left, where Jesus and I will comment upon at your Hell bound Muslim expense, get it?
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NEXT DUMBFOUNDED MUSLIM OF THE FAITH LIKE "RAYHAN16" THAT IS A HYPOCRITE TO WHAT HE SAID EARLIER TO ME AS SHOWN ABOVE, WILL BE ... ?
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Sir.Lancelot,
What didn't you understand when I told YOU the following in my comment #18 quoted herewith: "Yep, sooner or later the inept of debating like YOU, always has to digress to a grade-school setting as you have done with your "little boy" quote above, it never fails!"
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Therefore, surely you jest in that I am supposed to debate you when you have "little boy" grade-school attributes and tactics that I would have to wade through to decipher your lack of debating skills in getting to the point of the topic at hand, like are shown below:
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The juvenile Sir Lancelot's kiddie statements to me in the comment thread:
1. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Try harder. (comment #19)
2. BrotherD.Thomas is so intelligent that his IQ stats maxed out and went back to zero. (comment #17)
3. Why do you talk like you head-butt walls in your sparetime? (comment #14)
4. Give yourself a break from the tiring mental aerobics. (comment #12)
5. You’re typing too much. (comment #9)
6. The vibes I’m sensing are, “WAAAAAAAAHHH IM TRIGGERED” (comment #7)
7. Not a single person can currently decipher what it is you are rambling about. (comment #6)
Look at your outright "little boy" feeble responses to me ABOVE in making you the debate fool of this forum, and you want me to waste my time in debating you when your mental state is that of a whiny little child? NOT! ROFLOL!!! I only "discuss" religion with adults, and YOU as explicitly shown, are NOT an adult in any way whatsoever because of your 7 inept comments above! Get it little boy debater? Huh?
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NEXT MEMBER OF DEBATEART THAT HAS A CHILD-LIKE MENTALITY LIKE "SIR LANCELOT," AND SHOWS THIS IN THEIR 7 RESPONSES ABOVE, THAT WANTS TO WASTE THE TIME OF BROTHER D. THOMAS IN A DEBATE, WILL BE ... ? LOL!
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rayhan16,
YOUR QUOTE OF AGREEING WITH ME THAT YOUR DESPICABLE RELIGION OF ISLAM IS NOT PEACEFUL: "Thank you, appreciate it."
I am assuming that you are referencing my comment #2 and #4 where you were made the LYING Muslim Fool! Good boy, you are coming to terms with actual FACTS about your faith as I have shown you AND with back-up material to prove it from Muslim writings!
As the membership can see, you are still SCARED out of your wits to address this passage in your Qur'an: "Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax" (Qur’an 9:29) .......... Remember, Allah is watching YOU run away from defending the faith: Tafsir of Chapter 049 Verse 18: "Verily, Allah knows the hidden things of the heavens and earth and ALLAH SEES WHATEVER YOU DO."
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YOUR QUOTE THAT SHOWS YOU ARE AT RECESS AT A GRADE-SCHOOL: "Why do you talk like you head-butt walls in your sparetime?"
Yep, sooner or later the inept of debating like YOU, always has to digress to a grade-school setting as you have done with your "little boy" quote above, it never fails!
Since you are now resorting to grade-school tactics, I will not bother you anymore to save you from further embarrassment in front of the membership, where again, you can thank me later, okay?
Now, for your sake, you need to have the last word, therefore BEGIN:
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NEXT PSEUDO DEBATER LIKE SIR.LANCELOT WHOSE DEBATE STATEMENTS ARE LAUGHABLE AND TOO LONG TO GET TO THE POINT, WILL BE ... ?
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Sir.Lancelot,
YOUR QUOTE ONCE AGAIN IN NOT STICKING TO THE TOPIC: "Give yourself a break from the tiring mental aerobics. Analyzing debates and writing coherently aren’t your strong points."
First thing, why would I even think of "analyzing" your feeble debate's refutations? You were kidding, correct? LOL!
What I have brought forth in a few statements in the comment section, is irrelative to your rounds of debate to begin with, and far surpasses your fragile statements to the RUNAWAY pseudo Muslim rayfan16! Where are you getting your material of debate on the topic in question, from a Cracker Jack's Box, huh? LOL!
Furthermore, as you can see, the Qur'an inept "rayfan16" would NEVER bring forth what I have in my comments because they would derail his presupposition of Islam not being a peaceful religion, get it? Maybe?
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Heads up, you only have 2 rounds left to "try" and make your position believable with FACTS, therefore, get a good nights sleep so as not to make yourself the fool in this debate, okay? You're welcome!
Jesus H. Christ, kids like YOU have so much to learn in presenting your debates, and the tactics thereof. Sad indeed. :(
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Sir.Lancelot,
YOUR EMBARRASSING ADMITTANCE THAT YOU CAN'T "DECIPHER" THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE: "Not a single person can currently decipher what it is you are rambling about."
Barring your overrun statements in your debate rounds that are way too long, and not getting to the point, and your vacant biography because you are obviously to scared to put the truth within it about your modus operandi, then in you not being able to "decipher" my statements, then you are blatantly in need of an online reading comprehension class!
For your convenance, here are a few "reading comprehension" classes for you to look into, okay? You can thank me later. Good luck!
https://www.universalclass.com/i/course/reading-comprehension-101.htm?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkJjz6Pau_AIVXhOtBh2UgAhwEAAYAyAAEgJ17PD_BwE
https://www.udemy.com/topic/reading-comprehension/
https://www.time4learning.com/homeschool-curriculum/reading-comprehension.html
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Sir.Lancelot,
YOUR QUOTE: "You’re typing too much. Trolling isn’t supposed to require this much effort."
Conversely, then you are typing too much in your rounds of debate, where obviously you're not at the stage yet to deduce your refutations in a more pleasing way to get to the point first and foremost in your debate. We look forward to you accomplishing this feat in your future debates.
Since when is it trolling to correct a dumbfounded Muslim about his own faith, especially since rayhan16 embarrassingly runs away from it as shown? You're funny. :)
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rayhan16,
YOUR PITIFUL QUOTE IN ONCE AGAIN RUNNING AWAY FROM YOUR ISLAMIC FAITH: "Writing in capital letters does not help your cause. If you really want to comment, challenge me for a debate. If not, good day."
The capital letters are shown for my initial statement, understood? Now, whats your next EXCUSE to run away from your faith in embarrassment? Will it be the following:
"WAIT, you cannot quote scripture from the Qur'an on Wednesday that makes me look like a fool and if you are wearing pants, and it is past 9am in the morning." LOL!
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Why should I take the time in debating you and easily burying your weak refutations, when you are showing the membership that you are RUNNING AWAY from discussion in the first place from my comments to you! In this situation, I would be wasting my time! Get it Muslim RUNAWAY?!
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NEXT PSEUDO MUSLIM LIKE RAYHAN16 THAT HAS TO USE CHILD LIKE EXCUSES TO RUN FROM DISCUSSION REGARDING HIS PRIMITIVE MUSLIM FAITH, WILL BE ... ?
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rayhan16,
YOUR RUNAWAY QUOTE FROM YOUR DISGUSTING ISLAMIC BELIEF SYSTEM: "Realistically, I don't need to read that, so you have wasted your time in writing."
There is absolutely no time wasted in showing how your despicable belief system is sickening in the 21st century, understood? Therefore, when you tersely ran away from my Islamic embarrassing facts, you went against your Allah in the Qur'an when his inspired words stated that YOU ARE TO DEFEND the faith:
"Then We revealed the Book to you (O Muhammad!) with Truth, confirming whatever of the Book was revealed before, and protecting and guarding over it." (Qur'an 5:48)
Or, are you running away from the discussion because your Allah god says to do so in the first place? LOL!!!
"The Prophet (pbuh) said: I guarantee a house in Paradise for one who leaves arguments even if he is right." (Reference: Sunan Abi Dawud 4800, Book 43, Hadith 28 In-book reference:)
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NEXT MUSLIM LIKE "RAYHAN16" THAT HAS ALREADY LOST THIS DEBATE BECAUSE HE IS TO WEAK TO EVEN TRY TO DEFEND THE MUSLIM DISTURBING FACTS THAT I PRESENTED TO HIM IN MY COMMENT #2 RELATIVE TO ISLAM IS NOT A PEACEFUL RELIGION, WILL BE ... ?
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rayhan16,
"Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax" (Qur’an 9:29)
YES! Now before you comically turn yourself into a pretzel in spinning yourself into contortions with Islamic apologetics, and go through your many different "translations" of the verse shown above, where what is says literally, is not really what it says, the barbaric Islamic religion seemingly will be peaceful when your pagan belief KILLS all Christians and Jews if they don't convert to Islam!
The sickening part of your Islamic belief is it was founded upon by the PEDOPHILE named Muhammed in keeping a 6 year old girl named Aisha in his possession for "play," and eventually marrying her when she was 9 years old! Can you spell "P-E-D-O-P-H-I-L-E M-U-H-A-M-M-E-D," sure you can! (Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234: Narrated Aisha)
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YOUR INSIDIOUS QUOTE: "I don't understand Con's need to include this quote in because if a person commits a crime, a punishment is there for him."
Oh, oh, then in these passages below there was no crimes met for punishment yet to the Hell bound muslim, therefore the Muslim is to do the following, INCLUDING YOU, and if you don't slay the pagans, aka, Christians and Jews, then Allah will punish YOU! Get it Muslim fool?:
"Fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them and seize them, confine them, and lie in wait for them in every place of ambush." (Surah 9:5)
"If you do not fight, Allah will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men." (Surah 9:37-)
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Rayhan16, as if your primitive Islamic religion being shown NOT to be peaceful throughout history, and in addition, have you ever had to mutilate a young girl of her clitoris because it is ungodly for her to have pleasure in sex acts? https://www.imagebam.com/view/MEHVIFK
To prevent you from further embarrassment towards your Islamic religion, a simple yes or no will suffice.
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Female_Genital_Mutilation
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RAISE YOUR HANDS IF YOU ARE TOTALLY INEPT IN WANTING TO BE A HELL BOUND MUSLIM WITH ITS TRUE HORRIFIC FACTS, NOT!
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YouFound_Lxam, that wants to be "Bible Dumber" than Miss Tradesecret,
PLEASE, do yourself a favor and this forum as well, and tell the moderators to shut down your thread shown in this following link where you said: "God exists, and I can prove it:" https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8271-god-exists-and-i-can-prove-it
You have to shut down your thread above because you were easily made the Bible fool on your said topic, and then to add more insult to your injury at this point, you CONCEDED that you can't even prove; "God most likely exists" in your pathetic debate as shown in your round 2! LOL!
ENOUGH of your "what you think you know" about the Bible, and blatantly don't!
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NEXT PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN LIKE "YOUFOUND_LXAM" THAT FINALLY ACCEPTS THAT HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT BY FINALLY CONCEDING HIS DEBATE OF "GOD MOST LIKELY EXISTS" TO PROVE THIS FACT, WILL BE ... ?
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WeaverofFate, who runs away from Jesus’ true doctrine,
YOUR QUOTE OF DESPAIR AGAIN: “Oh great, I got vote bombed by the same troll from my other debate.”
If you want to equate your Bible ignorance to getting vote bombed by me, okay! But, our esteemed moderator Barney removed said vote of which I disagree with, but so be it because you are still Bible ignorant!
In essence with the definition of a troll, THINK, you are TROLLING this Debate forum with your Bible ignorance and stupidity because you are instigating the astute Bible knowledge of others, over your pre-school knowledge of same, to CORRECT your Bible ineptness! Get it?
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YOUR QUOTE OF EMBARRASSMENT IN “PLEADING” WITH INTELLIGENCE_06 TO VOTE FOR YOU: “Could you do me a favor and vote on this debate please? This guy has been trolling on my other debate, I didn't think he'd follow me. I'd rather an unbiased person vote here.”
What an ungodly “CRYBABY” you are in wanting someone to vote for you, where if they do, they accept your outright Bible stupidity and ignorance as shown by me in your round 1 dissertation in my post numbers 9 and 10!
Why don’t you just insidiously and secretly message Intelligence_06 and tell him you will pay for him to vote for you through PayPal? LOL!
How do you perceive that I am allegedly trolling you, when in fact, I am correcting your Bible stupidity and ignorance? When you stated; “I didn’t think he’d follow me,” relates to the fact that you were embarrassed in your other debate subsequent to me correcting you again Biblically, and you were hopeful that I didn’t follow you to this debate where I have to correct you biblically AGAIN!
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WeaverofFate, who runs away from Jesus’ true doctrine,
You are the complete definition of a PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN where you have to RUN AWAY from my biblical posts to you in correcting your Bible ignorance, and wherefore you have to hide from them without discussion! Don’t think that Jesus isn’t watching you (Hebrews 4:13) perform this ungodly act of disrespecting Him!
When you blatantly run away from biblical axioms from me, can you at least tell the membership in what running shoes you wear, are they Adidas, Converse, Nike, or? This video is what you represent when running from Jesus’ words:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI7ni7zL8qU
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Since that is your wife in your pictured moniker, she’s cute even with a mask on, nonetheless, tell her to get back into the kitchen and do her womanly duties of cooking and/or housekeeping as Jesus’ inspired words direct her to do:
“Then they can urge the younger women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled and pure, TO BE BUSY AT HOME, to be kind, AND TO BE SUBJECT TO THEIR HUSBANDS, so that no one will malign the word of God.” (Titus 2:4-5)
Then you propose that woman are to be respected, NOT! When Christian, they are to accept their 2nd class Biblical status and obey their husbands and other Bible axioms that I have presented to you, AND that you have RAN AWAY from, period!
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NEXT PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN EQUAL TO WEAVEROFFATE THAT RUNS AWAY FROM JESUS’ TRUE TEACHINGS, WILL BE … ?
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YouFound_Lxam, that wants to be "Bible Dumber" than Miss Tradesecret,
YOUR QUOTE IN ROUND 1:
A lot of laws and regulations are based in morals.
For instance:
It is illegal to kill someone, because it is morally wrong.
It is illegal to steal, because it is morally wrong.
It is illegal to rape, because it is morally wrong.
In the same way, it should be illegal to get an abortion, because it is morally wrong.
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QUESTION: Is it morally wrong for our Jesus as God, to outright MURDER innocent zygotes, fetus' and babies as He proposes in the book of Hosea, where Jesus as God gave Ephraim women miscarrying wombs and caused abortions, and if said babies were born and survived, Jesus as God would would SLAY their beloved children!
“The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for their children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived. Even if your children survive to grow up, I will take them from you. It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone. I have watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre. But now Israel will bring out her children to be slaughtered oh Lord. what should I request for your people? I will ask for the wombs that don’t give birth and breast that give no milk. The LORD says, "All their wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them. I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions. I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels. The people of Israel are stricken. Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit. And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children. (Hosea 9:11-16)
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You may BEGIN your answer to the above Biblical axiom:
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Regarding your round 1 Satanic dissertation in your debate upon the topic: "Bible believers should not engage in or celebrate Christmas December 25th," I feel that I should “school you” once again upon your outright Bible ignorance, okay? Thank you.
YOUR IGNORANT QUOTE OF JESUS’ BIRTHDAY: “However, there are certain Biblical proofs to suggest that Christ may have been born on the 25th of December.”
Key words in your inept statement above; “Christ MAY HAVE BEEN BORN” on the 25th of December, which is NOT an absolute! Understood?
YOUR QUOTE OF MOVING THE GOAL POSTS AT WILL: “While the exact date of his birth is never directly stated in the Bible, we can cross-reference the dates of events happening around the time Mary was pregnant to estimate the rough time of Jesus’ birth.“
Key words in your wishful thinking statement above: “to estimate the ROUGH TIME” of Jesus’ birth. GET IT? Huh?
If it is a “rough time,” meaning not a specific date whatsoever, then how in the hell can you promote that Jesus was born EXACTLY on December 25, and where the gestation of Mary can range drastically, like you ignorantly quoted here: “Assuming she would have a normal nine-month gestation period, THE DATE OF DECEMBER 25 MAKES BIBLICAL SENSE to attribute it to the birth of Christ.” LOL!
NO IT DOES NOT make biblical sense other than you erroneously trying in vain to promote exactly December 25th as Jesus’ birthday! If you knew your religious history, this date was Mithra's birthday, the god of the unconquerable sun, that for Romans, was the most sacred day of the year! True Christians like myself accept that Christianity stole the concept of the pagan God Mithra and made Him into Jesus. READ YOUR HISTORY!
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At least you are giving the membership laughter in your ungodly wishful thinking to this point, thank you! Have you thought of taking this skit of yours to Saturday Night Live comedy show?
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WeaverofFate,
YOUR WISHFUL THINKING QUOTE ONCE AGAIN: “Whether you are Christian or simply believe in parts of the Bible, you must believe that it is your duty to spread the Gospel so that other people may be saved.”
Seriously, why take the time to promote our serial killer Jesus in saving anyone, especially when Jesus states the following:
"For many are called, 'but few are chosen," (Matthew. 22:14).
Furthermore, when you say a Christian can believe in “parts of the Bible," NO they can not! Its all or nothing because every word of the Bible is inspired by Jesus as God, understood?! (1 Thessalonians 2:13)
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YOUR QUOTE RELATING TO THE 2ND CLASS WOMAN AS SHOWN THROUGHOUT THE BIBLE: “Take the birthday of your wife for instance ….. However, her birthday is special; you plan out a particular celebration to ensure that she feels special …”
NOT! The many wives that I have had over the years understood their 2nd class biblical position, and where the Bible says they are NOT special, especially when they try and usurp the authority over the superior man as biblically shown below:
“Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, SHE IS TO REMAIN QUIET. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor." (1 Timothy 2:11-14)
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ AND THE HEAD OF EVERY WOMAN IS MAN. For the man is not of the women; but the woman of the man.” (1Corinthians 11: 3,8 )
"The women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church." (1 Corinthians 14:34-35)
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In any event, I thought you were Bible stupid in your ever so wanting responses regarding “Jesus was a false prophet” debate, as I had easily shown you in the comment section, sorry. But, after seeing your Bible ignorance in this debate as well, then you continue to be Bible stupid at your expense in front of the membership. Seriously, have you actually ever read the Bible, or are you like so many other pseudo-christians, you are “spoon-fed” your doctrine at church on Sunday mornings? Sad indeed. :(
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YouFound_Lxam, who wants to be more "Bible Dumber" than Miss Tradesecret,
Just look in how you acquiesced in your two threads below, where the first one you were absolute that Jesus, as God, existed. Then in your debate thread you now say that Jesus as God "Likely Exists" which implies that you are not sure! How pathetic can you get, even as you being a pseudo-christian, where don't think that Jesus isn't watching you back-pedal on His existence! (Hebrews 4:13). You're a joke to this prestigious religion forum AND to Christianity as well!
God exists, and I Can Prove It.
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8271-god-exists-and-i-can-prove-it
God Most Likely Exists
https://www.debateart.com/debates/3993-god-most-likely-exists
NEXT PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN LIKE "YOUFOUND_LXAM" THAT IS NOT REALLY SURE THAT JESUS AS GOD EXISTS AND STILL WANTS TO BE ERRONEOUSLY CALLED A CHRISTIAN, WILL BE ... ?
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YouFound_Lxam, who wants to be more "Bible Dumber" than Miss Tradesecret,
YOUR WANTING QUOTES ONCE AGAIN: "A civilized one Brother D. Not just spewing facts about random crap."
Listen up Bible fool, Jesus and I OWN your Bible stupidity in both of your pathetic threads, as shown! Get used to it!
NEXT?
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Double_R
YOUR HONEST QUOTE TO THE BIBLE FOOL YOUFOUND_LXAM: "I am confused though, you decided to respond to some of my arguments and then conceded at the end, so you're giving up? And if so, why?"
As I stated, "Youfound_lxam" gave up at the onset when his title for the debate was; "God most likely exists" which is NOT an absolute as the Bible states with specificity that Jesus, as the serial killer God, truly exists!
As we all realize, YouFound_Lxam has the reading comprehension of a dead flattened crow on a Texas backroad. :(
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YouFound_Lxam,
YOUR QUOTE OF LYING ONCE AGAIN!: "It's hilarious how you feel so passionate about religion, yet you refuse to accept debates from anyone."
No Bible fool, it is hilarious that I Bible Slapped you Silly®️ in your 2 inane threads of yours, where you had to retreat and run away from me making you the Bible fool when you used your little boy excuse herewith: "Brother D. is a troll, and that is why I have decided to stop replying to him."remember LIAR?
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8377/post-links/363322
Heads up, we are DEBATING in your threads, get it? Huh? LOL!
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YouFound_Lxam, who is easily trying to be bible dumber than Miss Tradesecret,
OMG, YOUR QUOTE LEAVING YOURSELF WIDE OPEN IN YOUR OPENING STATEMENTS!: "I shall prove my case using 6 proofs for why God probably exists:"
You say "probably" God exists, which is NOT an absolute to your argument to begin with, where you have already LOST! ? LOL!
Furthermore, show respect and specifically state that "Jesus exists as God" (1 Timothy 2:5), and not just using his "title" God, understood?
It is totally amazing that you want to be bloodied up again in taking this debate where you were embarrassingly shown in your thread upon this same topic, where you were made the outright Bible fool!
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