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@DebateArt.com
We'd still prefer a site transfer if you're not afk. It's out in public now but my offer of $1500 for the site stands. I have several members to vouch for me.
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Just hit me up for live mafia. I'm open probably about half of friday or saturday nights. I can leave the discord bot running on nights I'm not here.
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@David
Last I was able to contact him was 2024-01-12. 12 days later I made an offer to buy the site. However it's been radio silence since then.
I don't have his telegram.
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@Lunatic
@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
@WyIted
@Moozer325
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Town wins
Town
Mikal - MiG-21 - First introduced in 1959, the MiG-21 operated during a period in which the Soviets may have had the both a quantitative and qualitative advantage in air combat. MiG-21 is the most widely built jet fighter ever, at over 13000 built (including license built variants), and widely exported. The MiG-21 was cheap and easy to maintain, and was able to fly at over Mach 2, though it had poor range and reliability. You were frequently used as in an interceptor role in addition to a fighter. You are the follower.
iamanabanana - F-16 Fighting Falcon - The American F-16 is a well-rounded late-cold war air superiority fighter. It's reliable, maneuverable, well-armed, has great electronics, and has good range for its size. It is the most widely operated aircraft in current day. "F-16 Fighting Falcon" is also the username of a skilled former DDO mafia player - for this reason you are the double voter.
Lunatic - Saab 37 Viggen - The Viggen is a Swedish fighter introduced in 1971. It was the first fighter produced in quantity to feature canards - stabilizers placed in front of the main wing. The canards on the Viggen allowed it to have better low-speed maneuverability and short-takeoff capability. The Viggen was also the first fighter to feature on onboard digital computer with a heads-up display, to aid the pilot in flight and combat tasks - because of the enhanced information, you are 1x journalist. Once per game you may target another player, and if they receive a role message that night, you will also receive a copy.
Mharman - Harrier - The Harrier "jump jet" is a British aircraft, design to operate off of small aircraft carriers and helicopter carriers. It is one of the few operational VTOL jet aircraft, meaning it can take off and land vertically. The Harrier is able to operate with no runway - for this reason you are 1x hider; you are compulsive, you are required to use your role on NP1.
ILikePie5 - F-2 - This Japanese aircraft was the result of collaboration between Mitsubishi Heavy Industries and Lockheed Martin, as such it is very similar to the US F-16. Notably it was the first combat aircraft to integrate an AESA radar. AESA radars are several times more effective at detecting enemies while simultaneously being lower observable and harder to jam. You are 2x cop.
Moozer325 - Tejas - Tejas is India's first attempt at an indigenous modern 4th gen fighter. It features a single-engine, delta-wing configuration. Its development was plagued with problems and overruns, and to this day very few have been manufactured. However, it represents an important step in India's military hardware indigenization effort. You are vanilla.
WyIted - Me 262 - The Me 262 was a late WWII Nazi jet aircraft. It was the first jet fighter produced in quantity. Like many Nazi weapons at the time, the Me 262 was a bit too advanced for its time. Although 1000 were produced, it was not enough to change the results of the war. Because of your Nazi origins, you are the Miller.
Mafia
That2User - F-117 Nighthawk - The American F-117 fighter-bomber was the first aircraft be designed for all-aspect stealth. The F-117 was developed as secretive project and was highly advanced for its time. Its low radar cross section and reduced heat signature allowed it to evade both enemy radar and anti-air missiles. Low-observability is the foundation of air superiority doctrine to this day - You are godfather.
whtieflame - J-36 - The J-36 prototype was first spotted flying in Chengdu, China, late 2024. It is the first of the next-gen fighters in development that has been captured on video. Notable features of the J-36 include 3 engines, massive size, and the lack of a vertical stabilizer, suggesting that it's focused on electronics power generation, range, and stealth - You are JOAT; your abilities are 1x commuter (on nights you commute, you may not perform the NK), 1x roleblocker, 2x ninja.
Theme hint - the mafia is stealth fighters. If only one of you claim your real character, you probably won't be sussed too much. Here's a list of jet-fighters you might fake claim: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fighter_aircraft anything after 1948 would fit in the theme.
Actions
DP1
that2 lynched
NP1
pie cop moozer
mharman hide behind pie
Mikal follow whiteflame
whiteflame NK Mikal, RB mharman
lunatic journalist mharman
DP2
WyIted lynched
NP2
pie cop lunatic
whiteflame ninja kill pie
DP2
whiteflame lynched
Commentary
Bad luck with the fake claim.
I made a PM error at the beginning, I sent out a PM for Rafale - ascetic to both WyIted and Moozer:
This role was removed and replaced with Me 262 - miller, and Tejas - vanilla. Mafia was given some info to compensate for this.
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Official Vote Count
whiteflame (2/3) - whiteflame, banana
Not voting: Moozer, lunatic, Mharman
whiteflame has been lynched. He was mafia.
whiteflame - J-36 - The J-36 prototype was first spotted flying in Chengdu, China, late 2024. It is the first of the next-gen fighters in development that has been captured on video. Notable features of the J-36 include 3 engines, massive size, and the lack of a vertical stabilizer, suggesting that it's focused on electronics power generation, range, and stealth - You are JOAT; your abilities are 1x commuter (on nights you commute, you may not perform the NK), 1x roleblocker, 2x ninja.
Town wins!
Game's over, endgame coming up.
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@Mharman
Does a journalist get results from a cop the same night a cop dies?
yes
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Official Vote Count
whiteflame (1/3) - whiteflame
Not voting: Moozer, banana, lunatic, Mharman
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@Lunatic
@whiteflame
@Mharman
@Moozer325
@iamanabanana
gaem
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Jet Fighters Mafia - DP3
Died last DP:
WyIted (town) - Me 262 - The Me 262 was a late WWII Nazi jet aircraft. It was the first jet fighter produced in quantity. Like many Nazi weapons at the time, the Me 262 was a bit too advanced for its time. Although 1000 were produced, it was not enough to change the results of the war. Because of your Nazi origins, you are the Miller.
Died in the night:
ILikePie5 (town) - F-2 - This Japanese aircraft was the result of collaboration between Mitsubishi Heavy Industries and Lockheed Martin, as such it is very similar to the US F-16. Notably it was the first combat aircraft to integrate an AESA radar. AESA radars are several times more effective at detecting enemies while simultaneously being lower observable and harder to jam. You are 2x cop.
Graveyard
1. That2User (mafia) - F-117 Nighthawk - godfather
2. Mikal (town) - MiG-21 - follower
Living players:
1. whiteflame
2. Lunatic
3. Moozer325
4. iamanabanana
5. Mharman
With 5 players alive, it takes 3 votes to lynch.
This DP lasts ~72 hours. DP2 ends 05/18 20:30 EDT.
This DP lasts ~72 hours. DP2 ends 05/18 20:30 EDT.
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Official Vote Count
WyIted (4/4) - lunatic, WyIted, pie, banana
whiteflame (1/4) - whiteflame
Not voting: Moozer, Mharman
WyIted has been lynched. He was town.
WyIted - Me 262 - The Me 262 was a late WWII Nazi jet aircraft. It was the first jet fighter produced in quantity. Like many Nazi weapons at the time, the Me 262 was a bit too advanced for its time. Although 1000 were produced, it was not enough to change the results of the war. Because of your Nazi origins, you are the Miller.
The NP lasts ~24 hours. NP1 ends 05/16 15:00 EDT.
Submit night actions!
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@ILikePie5
Does Roleblocker come before Bus Drive in order of Ops?
Yes. That said, if actions are non-conflicting, they all resolve. What this means practically is if a roleblocker targets a bus driver, then the bus driver's action is blocked; however, if the roleblocker targets bus-driven player A, then bus-driven player B will be roleblocked.
If the bus driver drives himself, and the roleblocker targets the other bus driven player, There is now a resolution conflict, in this case the roleblocker resolves first.
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@ILikePie5
Are there any roles in the list where if Player A who is the roleblocker uses their action on Player B, player B could still use their action?
Typically I wouldn't answer speculative questions like this. But since all the roles are open I will answer this time.
Yes, there are multiple scenarios where this would be possible. Non-exhaustive list of possibilities:
- If the roleblocker was roleblocked/jailkept
- If the roleblocker was redirected
- if a rolestopper also targeted player B
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Official Vote Count
Mharman (1/4) - pie
pie (1/4) - Mharman
Not voting: Moozer, banana, whiteflame, WyIted, lunatic,
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@ILikePie5
Can Bus Drivers choose themselves and a another player or does it have to be two players besides themselves
Bus driver can self target in my version.
If a Roleblocker blocked a Redirector and the Redirector redirected the Roleblocker to someone else, what would happen.
Roleblocker resolves first.
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@iamanabanana
What is the difference between a hider and a commuter?
Both hider and commuter are untargetable. The hider dies if the person they hide behind dies.
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@Mharman
Strongman does not bypass roleblocker. Strongman only bypasses roles which protect the target.
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@Mharman
Would a town double voter's double vote show up in vote counts?
No.
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Official Vote Count
Mharman (1/4) - pie
pie (1/4) - Mharman
Not voting: Moozer, banana, whiteflame, WyIted, lunatic,
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Jet Fighters Mafia - DP2
Died last DP:
That2User (mafia) - F-117 Nighthawk - The American F-117 fighter-bomber was the first aircraft be designed for all-aspect stealth. The F-117 was developed as secretive project and was highly advanced for its time. Its low radar cross section and reduced heat signature allowed it to evade both enemy radar and anti-air missiles. Low-observability is the foundation of air superiority doctrine to this day - You are godfather.
Died in the night:
Mikal (town) - MiG-21 - First introduced in 1959, the MiG-21 operated during a period in which the Soviets may have had the both a quantitative and qualitative advantage in air combat. MiG-21 is the most widely built jet fighter ever, at over 13000 built (including license built variants), and widely exported. The MiG-21 was cheap and easy to maintain, and was able to fly at over Mach 2, though it had poor range and reliability. You were frequently used as in an interceptor role in addition to a fighter. You are the follower.
Living players:
1. ILikePie5
2. whiteflame
3. Lunatic
4. WyIted
5. Moozer325
6. iamanabanana
7. Mharman
With 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.
This DP lasts ~72 hours. DP2 ends 05/17 20:00 EDT.
This DP lasts ~72 hours. DP2 ends 05/17 20:00 EDT.
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Official Vote Count
that2 (5/5) - lunatic, pie, whiteflame, WyIted, Mikal,
whiteflame (1/5) - that2,
Not voting: Moozer, Mharman, banana,
That2User has been lynched. He was mafia.
That2User - F-117 Nighthawk - The American F-117 fighter-bomber was the first aircraft be designed for all-aspect stealth. The F-117 was developed as secretive project and was highly advanced for its time. Its low radar cross section and reduced heat signature allowed it to evade both enemy radar and anti-air missiles. Low-observability is the foundation of air superiority doctrine to this day - You are godfather.
The NP lasts ~24 hours. NP1 ends 05/15 15:00 EDT.
Send night actions!
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@Mikal
The roles that exist in the game were chosen by me.
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Official Vote Count
whiteflame (3/5) - Mikal, that2, WyIted,
that2 (2/5) - lunatic, pie,
Not voting: whiteflame, Moozer, Mharman, banana
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Official Vote Count
that2 (1/5) - lunatic,
whiteflame (2/5) - Mikal, that2,
Not voting: pie, whiteflame, WyIted, Moozer, Mharman, banana
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@ILikePie5
Would abilities that are part of the JOAT be the same for both scum and town?
Town JOAT can have any ability town can have. Scum JOAT can have any ability that scum can have.
In addition, a JOAT can have an ability that another player has.
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Official Vote Count
whiteflame (2/5) - Mikal, that2,
Not voting: pie, whiteflame, lunatic, WyIted, Moozer, Mharman, banana
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Official Vote Count
Mikal (1/5) - banana
whiteflame (1/5) - Mikal
Not voting: pie, whiteflame, lunatic, WyIted, Moozer, that2, Mharman
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Current Mafia:
Bullish - Jet fighters semi-open
Sign ups:
None.
In the Hopper:
Lunatic - Theme choice
Wylted - Lulsec
Whiteflame - Microbiology
Casey Risk - Deltarune Mafia
Earth - Tales of Symphonia/Xenogears/Skyrim Mafia
iLikePie5
On hold
Mharman
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@Lunatic
@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
@WyIted
@Moozer325
start
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Jet Fighters Mafia - DP1
Setup info can be seen in the sign-ups thread: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/12648-jet-fighters-mafia-sign-ups
As a reminder:
- 9 players, 7 town vs 2 mafia.
- The setup is semi-open, all possible roles listed in the set up.
- I will answer any questions about role mechanics publicly.
Living players
1. ILikePie5
2. whiteflame
3. Lunatic
4. WyIted
5. Moozer325
6. That2User
7. iamanabanana
8. Mikal
9. Mharman
With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.
This DP lasts ~72 hours. DP1 ends 05/16 17:30 EDT.
This DP lasts ~72 hours. DP1 ends 05/16 17:30 EDT.
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Player list is locked, PMs will go out through the course of today.
1. ILikePie5
2. whiteflame
3. Lunatic
4. WyIted
5. Moozer325
6. That2User
7. iamanabanana
8. Mikal
9. Mharman
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@Lunatic
@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
@WyIted
@Moozer325
I will rebalance the game for 7. I'll keep sign ups open for 2 more days and send out PMs by the end of 5/13.
1. ILikePie5
2. whiteflame
3. Lunatic
4. WyIted
5. Moozer325
6. That2User
7. iamanabanana
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1. ILikePie5
2. whiteflame
3. Lunatic
4. WyIted
5. Moozer325
6. That2User
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@ILikePie5
Yeah scum vig is possible. Not every role has an equal chance of appearing though, and balance is obviously a consideration, so analyze that as you will.
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@vi_777
Forum mafia is pretty fun if you like debating, here's the guide: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/21-guide-to-forum-mafia
To play on DART you should play to be active for about an hour a day for about 2 weeks.
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Recent fighter news:
A F/A-18 fell off the USS Truman in the Red Sea, in operation against the Houthis. This was the 2nd F/A-18 lost in a week. A third F/A-18 was also lost to friendly fire December last year, also in the Truman carrier group.
An Indian operated Rafale was shot down in a mission in Pakistani Kashmir. Reports are unclear at the moment, but an Indian Mig-29 or Su-30, and a helicopter, were also shot down or crashed. The attacker may have been a Pakistan operated JF-17 or J-10.
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