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@Bella3sp

Very good argument though

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@Sir.Lancelot
@Bella3sp

I apologise I forgot about this

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@K_Michael

I don't actually have an opinion but I can argue for it both ways

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@K_Michael
@Decisively_Conservatist

First of no hate it meant towards you so if I come across rude that is an accident.

Let me start by something my global perspectives teacher told me. 'Never deal in absolutes,' the irony is that statement is an absolute. If you don't know what I am talking about you saying since ALL feminists, all is the absolute
Also its wrong I am a feminist and a women and don't believe that

Also we can't all be man-haters many feminists are straight and will choose to marry and (unless divorce) spend the rest of the time they are both alive together. Very random fact about marriage. Traditionally a husband asking the brides father if he can marry her is another way of asking for a transfer of ownership;the
father walking the bride down the isle is transferring ownership. Also I am friends with more guys then girls so I can't be a man hater if I choose to be friends with them. Also if it wasn't for my male teacher I would never of gotten an ADHD diagnosis.

And I don't have that common belief: There is a patriarchy aimed at benefiting men and subjugating women. That statement doesn't make sense. According the the oxford English dictionary the definition of patriarchy is (and I have copied and pasted this)
noun: patriarchy
a system of society or government in which the father or eldest male is head of the family and descent is reckoned through the male line.
"the thematic relationships of the ballad are worked out according to the conventional archetypes of the patriarchy"
a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it.
"the dominant ideology of patriarchy"
a society or community organized on patriarchal lines.
plural noun: patriarchies
"we live in a patriarchy"
https://www.google.com/search?q=patriachy&rlz=1CADRLH_enGB1037&oq=patriachy+&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i10i433i512j0i10i512l4j46i10i512l2j0i10i512l2.1759j1j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
(that will take you to google and the first text that comes up is what I copied and pasted above)

So your statement is saying there is a system in which men hold power that women do not is aimed at benefiting men and subjugating women. So what I think you are saying is we are men haters because the system designed to put men in power is aimed at benefiting men more.
Now I am not a man hater nor do I think there is a system aimed to benefit men yet I am a feminist. Outcome and aim are different. I believe that the system benefits men more then women but that it was not aimed to. I also think it is getting better however things can't be perfect.

Feminism is about having equal rights for everyone, if we had equal rights we wouldn't still have feminism. There are still many countries in which women don't have equal rights and even in the UK (where I live) there is still a gender pay gap.

I will stop there because long comments are boring to read

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