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@oromagi
The entire paradoxical state arises from the vagueness of the predicates.
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@oromagi
It reveals the flaws of human ideas, such as definitions.
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@RationalMadman
@Barney
@oromagi
@WaterPhoenix
@User_2006
Tag.
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I'll post these every week or two and let people speculate about them.
SORITES PARADOX.
Ok, first of all, what is the Sorites paradox? It's basically a philosophic paradox that says if you change an object repeatedly, when does that object not become an object anymore?
Let's explore more examples of this:
- Assume you have a heap of grain. Let's say you have 1000 pieces of grain in that heap, and every hour you took one piece of grain from the heap. At what point does it stop becoming a heap?
- Another classic version of the Sorites paradox is the Theseus's sheep paradox
The ship wherein Theseus and the youth of Athens returned from Crete had thirty oars, and was preserved by the Athenians down even to the time of Demetrius Phalereus, for they took away the old planks as they decayed, putting in new and stronger timber in their places, in so much that this ship became a standing example among the philosophers, for the logical question of things that grow; one side holding that the ship remained the same, and the other contending that it was not the same.
So, what do you think? What do you think the solution to the paradox is?
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But do they really?
Of course they do. Taking a literal point at life, you'll find determism is a illusion.
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@RationalMadman
@Dr.Franklin
hol up, wait a minute...
somethin ain't right
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@Speedrace
Is this just MCU, or the entire comics? Because the entire comics would be a lot more interesting due to stronger powers
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I still want to hear the details of how this works given it is the central theme of your whole idea here.
Money is an obstacle between the people getting what they want. People who work hard can get needs from the government without having to pay. They pay with their work.
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@RationalMadman
Free will is not compatible with determinism though. I believe determinism is an illusion and once freed of that illusion you can accomplish free will
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I'm a firm believer of free will.
Determinism, as suggested by countless philosophers suggests that our minds are simply predictable, our behavior is literally determined from the start. But, who determines our behavior in the first place? Philosophers state that there's external and internal forces that we can't possibly interfere with. If we can not interfere with them, that means, to us, they do not exist. We have no way of proving if they do exist or do not. So, why pretend that they have power? Determinism is further contradicted by the legal and moral obligations of a human being. True, parents have control over children. But, do they really? A child has the free will to run away.
Free will is literally mastered by happiness and true justification within a human mind. Once you've achieved a true moral compass, you're free from the philosopher's version of "determinism", and you do have free will. Evil ones are easier to predict that moral ones.
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Calling Capitalism evil for neglecting those that can't work and then saying you yourself would slaughter or chemically torture them for experimentation purposes (which no doubt you'd pay them nothing for as your society has no money and you call them wastes of resources).
Capitalism does not neglect those that can't work, it neglects those that do work and do not get reward. Crocism does not.
Also, by experiment I didn't mean chemically torture them. I meant using them for test subjects for vaccines, and medical research. They could be used for harmless psychological studies and such. Then, they would not be wasteful to society.
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@RationalMadman
I hope you can tell this whole thing is sarcastic and I'm not a sadistic monster. Lmao I'm only slightly left, not extremist.
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@PressF4Respect
More like Plato, Socrates, and Aristotle. I've read some Marx too.
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@Vader
im excited for naruto, can't wait to see roles.
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People work to gain high rewards. In order to do this, you have to convince that person that 3 chickens is worth more than $45 dollars worth of pay. Which is worth more?
The psychological effect of saying 3 chickens is not enough, and that you should work for 6 chickens, is what convinces them. But, 3 chickens is already good! So, they'll work the bare minimum, in there minds. But in reality, the bare minimum is set at a high standard.
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You worked extremely hard. Have 3 chickens instead of 1 chicken. Where's the money? No money! But I worked so hard for that money! All I get is 3 chickens
Exactly no money. But the minimum is set at 3 chickens. Therefore, three chickens wouldn't be considered working hard in the first place. This would maximize output.
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SZA is also on this list too, more proof Chicago is a rap machine, better than potentially NYC and CAL
atlanta?
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@RationalMadman
Creating a serious and reasonable but stupid political ideaology, one step at a time.
I'm not a communist lol.
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Pie loves connecting roles and Ani and Doctor do not connect at all. Ani's role are linked to manipulation roles more, and with such a weak justification, he clearly made it up
Nah.
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@Dr.Franklin
Yes, all of human society had currency. And where is that leading us now? Into a hole of depression and social gaps. Wealth equality can only be achieved by the number 1 workers.
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@RationalMadman
You support the system known as resource-vased economy. The user Type1/Sparrow had a very similar idea of Utopia to you. I'm willing to logically tear you utopia to shreds if you allow me to. It's your choice. You are enabling tyranny by artificial intelligence and naming a Technocratic Oligarchy as Crocism then saying it's going to care for its poor except it won't. If you remove money, you instead measure people by their output alone amd that means all the elderly, mentally/physically vulnerable and the entire fields of the arts become wastes of resources and guess what your system would do with those wastes of resources? You'd get rid of them.
Exactly, we would get rid of them. The entire point of a crocist society is a acceleration towards becoming a superpower. We'd have massive outputs of products which would not only lead us to becoming a good economy, but also a good nation (to those who work, of course). Old people do not necessarily equal to wastes of resources, as they can teach and knit. Mentally troubled people can become test subjects for scientists. But other wastes of resources, yes, we'd get rid of them.
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@zedvictor4
But, the people with begging bowls are there, not because they had poor parents, they are there because they didn't work hard in the first place. Now, we can say they deserved to be there. Or there is always the alternative of killing those who don't work hard enough (after enough warnings).
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If we are all equal, then who has the power to allocate rewards?Extreme socialism always fails because people are just not equal...We rely upon natural hierarchy to bring order to society.Currency or no currency, there will still be people with their begging bowls and others dishing out the rewards.It's perhaps better to have currency, rather of the gun.
You're saying people will not work? Well if they don't work they don't get food, forcing them to work in the first place. They only have to accomplish the bare minimum to get food.
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Crocism- A Far Left Political Ideology
Creating a serious and reasonable but stupid political ideaology, one step at a time.
Political and economical class struggles push the world further and further into ultimate implosion and collapse. Individual rights far overpower the greater good in the world that all of us live in today, which leads humanity into a greed that cannot be cured unless there is a radical and rapid political and economical event that takes down the capitalist and part-communist governments that are in place today. Economic struggles that are in place today are obvious, gaps between social classes are egregious. Hard work in capitalist society is rewarded rarely and that is the problem with society and the economy that is currently in place. The solution to this? Marxism? Leninism? No. The promises that several far-left political ideologies give to us are far fetched and completely impossible. A utopian, classless, stateless, and no socioeconomic class society is improbable and most likely impossible to achieve within the next century. Also, the process of going through a socialist revolution is not inevitable, it completely contradicts the purpose of communist ideologies in the first place. There ought to be a new and different solution for these terrible struggles the average Earth citizen faces. A new political ideology will be born out of the dark shadows of revolution: Crocism.
- The Problem With Currency
- In reality, currency has no actual value, it is a subset of natural human imagination and innovation. But, this innovation and imagination is what is leading us to our ultimate demise. Currency acts as a proxy between humans and their needs and wants. Why should we need a proxy, instead of giving needs directly to humans themselves? Currency is used as a reward, but what exactly is the reward used for, except to spend it on needs and wants? It actually does one thing besides that, it satisfies the natural human greed for power. Money gives people power, economic, and social leverage. But, as in the real world, this is not always good. This leads to the downfall of a capitalist society because, as said before, the economic gaps created by currency creates issues that politicians promise to solve, but never do. Which is why there should be no currency. This will solve all problems, as class struggles will be eliminated. When you work, you get rewarded, not with money but with food and needs This creates a world where everyone gets what they need.
Feel free to add more.
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@Vader
Ok, give me your credit card, social security number, and atm number. We can talk about from there.
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@Vader
Can you do a batman one for me. I would really appreciate your artitstic insight into the dark knight.
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@PressF4Respect
Goddamnit you'll see it in the next round.
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@WaterPhoenix
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@PressF4Respect
I put out fires if they spring up or some shit like that. I keep secrets and shit like that. I'm the doctor.
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@WaterPhoenix
who will you suspect once i get lynched
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@PressF4Respect
bruh it had something to do with fires
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@Vader
@Speedrace
@WaterPhoenix
@PressF4Respect
Who will you suspect when I am lynched and turn up innocent?
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How do you possibly go from you are the police (which follows my guess that she was a cop) to you're a doctor??? Like what?
It used to say something else.
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