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@Dr.Franklin

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Vote Reported: Dr.Franklin // Mod Action: Removed

Points awarded: 3 points to pro for arguments, one point to con for conduct

RFD: Yes there was a forfeit but I feel like Con had better arguments. She explained loss of life, threatening peace, etc. Pro did not respond to this nor gave facts.

Reason for mod action: The conduct point is sufficient, though the argument point is not. To award argument points, the voter must (1) survey the main arguments and counterarguments in the debate, (2) weigh those arguments and counterarguments against each other, and (3) explain, based on the weighing process, how they reached their decision.


The voter should review the COC here: https://www.debateart.com/rules
The voter should also review this: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/346?page=1&post_number=4

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@RationalMadman

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Vote Reported: RationalMadman // Mod Action: Not Removed

Reason for mod action: The vote was found to be sufficient per the site voting policy standards.

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@TheAtheist

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Vote Reported: TheAtheist // Mod Action: Removed

Points awarded: 7 points to con

RFD: Pro's argument was flawed and was essentially removing all non-blacks from Africa.

Reason for mod action: In order to be eligible to vote, Accounts must have read the site's COC AND completed at least 2 non-troll debates without any forfeits OR posted 100 forum posts

The voter should review the COC here: https://www.debateart.com/rules
The voter should also review this: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/346?page=1&post_number=4

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@TheAtheist

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Vote Reported: TheAtheist // Mod Action: Removed

Points awarded: 3 points to pro for arguments

RFD: Pro debunked all of Con’s arguments.

Reason for mod action: In order to be eligible to vote, Accounts must have read the site's COC AND completed at least 2 non-troll debates without any forfeits OR posted 100 forum posts

The voter should review the COC here: https://www.debateart.com/rules
The voter should also review this: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/346?page=1&post_number=4

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@K_Michael

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Vote Reported: K_Michael // Mod Action: Removed

Points awarded: 4 points to pro for arguments and conduct

RFD: Con's argument is self-contradictory, stating both that the earth is a circle and that it has four corners, which is geometrically impossible.
Arguments to Pro
Con uses mere insult as defined in the CoC by describing Pro in terms such as "feeble Satanic brain."
Conduct to Pro.

Reason for mod action: To award argument points, the voter must (1) survey the main arguments and counterarguments in the debate, (2) weigh those arguments and counterarguments against each other, and (3) explain, based on the weighing process, how they reached their decision. To award conduct points, the voter must (1) identify specific instances of misconduct, (2) explain how this misconduct was excessive, unfair, or in breach of the debate's rules, and (3) compare each debater's conduct. 
Since these things are not done, the vote is removed.

The voter should review the COC here: https://www.debateart.com/rules
The voter should also review this: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/346?page=1&post_number=4

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@TheAtheist

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Vote Reported: TheAtheist // Mod Action: Removed

Points awarded: 7 points to pro

RFD: All of Con's argument was insulting the Pro and saying how he's "lying about Jesus".

Reason for mod action: In order to be eligible to vote, Accounts must have read the site's COC AND completed at least 2 non-troll debates without any forfeits OR posted 100 forum posts

The voter should review the COC here: https://www.debateart.com/rules
The voter should also review this: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/346?page=1&post_number=4

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@Speedrace

Done. Can i delete the other debate

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Looks like you already got it!

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@Michael_Hastings

OK cool. I can help you fix it if you want.

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@Michael_Hastings

Are you arguing that Aoc is competent or incompetent? The wording and description is rather confusing?

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@Barney

The pro side is arguing she is incompetent and shouldn’t serve while con is defending her and saying she should serve

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Mod note: Troll debates are not moderated

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@RationalMadman

Not a problem. Thank you for your confidence. Mike changed it by mistake while editing the new feature. In my opinion, there should be a designated troll debate when dealing with the right to vote, but they should still affect ELO scores.
That being said, votes can and will still be moderated on non moderated debates

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@RationalMadman

This has been fixed. Found the culprit

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@RationalMadman

Fixed. Will take care of vote when I get home

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@RationalMadman

Fixed

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@RationalMadman

We are working on it

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@RationalMadman

I’ll text Mike. He’ll have to be the one to fix it

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@RationalMadman

Regardless this is gonna be a FF debate and the only
Votes that will be removed are the ones who vote for the FFing side

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@DebateArt.com
@RationalMadman

I’m tagging Mike as he will have to be the one to fix it. Unmoderated debates does not mean the votes can’t be moderated. From what Mike told me, the votes can be reported and removed. The main difference is that unmoderated de ages are not rated. In other words, your ELO score won’t go down if you lose this debate. I told Mike that the wording was awkward and confusing

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@Dr.Franklin

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Vote Reported: Dr.Franklin // Mod Action: Removed

Points awarded: 3 points to pro for arguments

RFD: Con actually made a argument while RM went off topic

Reason for mod action: To award argument points, the voter must (1) survey the main arguments and counterarguments in the debate, (2) weigh those arguments and counterarguments against each other, and (3) explain, based on the weighing process, how they reached their decision.


The voter should review the COC here: https://www.debateart.com/rules
The voter should also review this: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/346?page=1&post_number=4

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@Gatorade

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Vote Reported: Gatorade // Mod Action: Removed

Points awarded: 6 points to pro for arguments, sources, and s/g

RFD: Of course the earth is not flat mo'fu'. Con probably just got mad at Pro for his bullshit arguments.

Reason for mod action: In order to be eligible to vote, Accounts must have read the site's COC AND completed at least 2 non-troll debates without any forfeits OR posted 100 forum posts

The voter should review the COC here: https://www.debateart.com/rules
The voter should also review this: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/346?page=1&post_number=4

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@Pinkfreud08

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Vote Reported: Pinkfreud08 // Mod Action: Not Removed

Reason for mod action: The vote was borderline. By default, borderline votes are ruled to be sufficient.

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@RationalMadman

We'll look into it. Thanks.

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@Ramshutu

less than 40 mins left

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@Ramshutu

Done

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@bsh1

The RFD was already posted below

**PROs responses are rushed and have some/little evidence countered by Ragnar's thorough points that elaborately counter the argument, that go uncontested to the end of the round, there causing me to vote in favor of Rangar**

**Sources go PRO, due to in the argument itself, evidence supports the side and gives validation and proof vs PROs**

There was a poitn about conduct, but forgot to copy it. The conduct was definitely sufficient (somewhere along the lines of "pro ff'd 2 rounds") something like that.

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@bsh1

Hence why I removed the vote. I still stand by my view that the argument point is borderline enough to let it stand.

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@bsh1

I reexamined it myself and felt it should be removed. Bsh you can correct me if I'm wrong. I posted the RFD din the posts below

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@RationalMadman
@Vader

OK I had a chat with bsh on this. Since this isn't FF, arguments and source points still need to be explained. The argument point I think is borderline enough to let it stand, but the source point is not. Therefore, I will remove the vote.

To award sources points, the voter must (1) explain how the debaters' sources impacted the debate, (2) directly assess the strength/utility of at least one source in particular cited in the debate, and (3) explain how and why one debater's use of sources overall was superior to the other's.


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@RationalMadman

What makes this case borderline is the fact that pro forfeited more than 1/2 the rounds. In any other case, this would have been removed.

**PROs responses are rushed and have some/little evidence countered by Ragnar's thorough points that elaborately counter the argument, that go uncontested to the end of the round, there causing me to vote in favor of Rangar**

In debates, all dropped points are considered to be conceded. By the virtue of forfeiting the last two rounds, it is basically a concession.

**Sources go PRO, due to in the argument itself, evidence supports the side and gives validation and proof vs PROs**

This is the tricky point. This is where it would definitely be removed, but given the circumstances of the debate, i'm inclined to let it stand.

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@Barney

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Vote Reported: Ragnar // Mod Action: Not Removed

Reason for mod action: The vote was found to be sufficient per the site voting policy standards.

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@Vader

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Vote Reported: SupaDudz // Mod Action: Not Removed

RFD: The vote was borderline. By default, borderline votes are ruled to be sufficient.


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@Pinkfreud08

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Vote Reported: {Pinkfreud08// Mod Action: Removed

Points awarded: Tie

RFD: I would like to start off by thanking both opponents for this debate
POOR CONDUCT:
Con forfeited the majority of the rounds that's poor conduct!
All other points tied, neither convinced me and both had relatively good spelling and conduct.

Reason for mod action: To justify a no-points awarded vote, the voter must offer some reason specific to the debate itself which explains why they were unable to award points. Because this RFD could've been C/P'd to any debate on the site, it is not sufficiently context-specific.



The voter should review the COC here: https://www.debateart.com/rules
The voter should also review this: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/346?page=1&post_number=4

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@dustryder

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Vote Reported: dustryder // Mod Action: Removed

Points awarded: 1 point to pro for conduct

RFD: Thanks for both opponents for the debate
POOR CONDUCT:
Throughout the entire debate Pro was insulted by Con several times, this includes...
"I think your racist because you said:"All problems in the world is because of the white male""
And also,
"If you think Black people are not mentally ill, then you are racism you think a race is inertially different and worse than one race. Which is textbook racism, just admit you don't like white people. Just admit you are racist. Its not that hard."
And my PERSONAL favorite...
"my opponent ignores arguments and denies statistics."
Additionally Con has maintained an obnoxious, petulant and condescending attitude throughout the entire debate, this includes...
Refering to Colin Kaepernick as Kolin CRAPernick
And also,
"Protesting this on 9/11 WOW GOOD MOVE IDIOTS-"
And my PERSONAL favourite...
"Did you really just say that. Wow,just WOW. "
On the hand, in the face of Con's insults and attitudes which were downright disrespectful and condescending, Pro maintained a calm and logical demeanor.
All other points are tied as neither were particularly convincing and both of their sources and spelling were relatively good

Reason for mod action: Unless a debater forfeited more than half the rounds, one still needs to explain a tied argument point.

The voter should review the COC here: https://www.debateart.com/rules
The voter should also review this: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/346?page=1&post_number=4

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@Pinkfreud08

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Vote Reported: Pinkfreud08 // Mod Action: Removed

Points awarded: 1 point to con for conduct

RFD: I would like to thank both opponents for this debate
POOR CONDUCT:
Throughout the entire debate Pro insulted Con several times, this includes...
" Yet again, let me address the nonsense that my antagonist is spewing."
And also,
" Yeah, that kind of obliterates the nonsense you're spewing."
And my PERSONAL favorite...
" I'm going to try to cover as much of this psycho-babble as I can. If you have to write a full-novel to get your point across, then it shows just how uninformed you truly are. "
Pro's insults were obnoxious and downright disrespectful to Pro who maintained a logical attitude.
All other points tied, neither convinced me and both had relatively good sources and spelling

Reason for mod action: Unless a debater forfeited more than half the rounds, one still needs to explain a tied argument point.

The voter should review the COC here: https://www.debateart.com/rules
The voter should also review this: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/346?page=1&post_number=4

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Votes on conceded debates are not moderated

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@Debaticus

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Vote Reported: Debaticus // Mod Action: Not Removed

Reason for mod action: The vote was found to be sufficient per the site voting policy standards.

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@TheRealNihilist

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Vote Reported: omar2345 // Mod Action: Not Removed

Reason for mod action: The vote was found to be sufficient per the site voting policy standards.

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@King_8

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Vote Reported: King_8 // Mod Action: Removed

Points awarded: 3 to pro for arguments 1 to con for conduct

RFD: Arguments | Pro is the only one who made an argument, which was a solid one.
Sources | Tied as neither opponent used any sources.
S&P | Both has equal spelling and grammar.
Conduct | Conduct goes to Con since Pro forfeited the rest of the debate.

Reason for mod action: Full forfeit debates are not moderated unless the voter voted for the forfeiting side, per the site voting policy guidelines. This vote is thus removed

The voter should review the COC here: https://www.debateart.com/rules
The voter should also review this: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/346?page=1&post_number=4

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Mod note: FF debates are not moderated, even when the vote would otherwise be removed.

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@Debaticus

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Vote Reported: {username} // Mod Action: Removed

Points awarded: 6 points to pro for arguments, sources, s/g

RFD: See below

Reason for mod action: To award argument points, the voter must (1) survey the main arguments and counterarguments in the debate, (2) weigh those arguments and counterarguments against each other, and (3) explain, based on the weighing process, how they reached their decision.
 While the voter seemed to weigh them, they need to explain *how* they got there and how they reached their decision.

To award sources points, the voter must (1) explain how the debaters' sources impacted the debate, (2) directly assess the strength/utility of at least one source in particular cited in the debate, and (3) explain how and why one debater's use of sources overall was superior to the other's.


To award S/G points, the voter must (1) give specific examples of S/G errors, (2) explain how these errors were excessive, and (3) compare each debaters' S/G.
 The key to awarding s/g is *excessiveness* and how it made the debate incomprehensible.

The voter should review the COC here: https://www.debateart.com/rules
The voter should also review this: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/346?page=1&post_number=4

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@Debaticus

Primarily testing if I can vote, lo let's take a look.
Most convincing arguments:
-Isn't natural argument- 1 point con
-Sex is harmful- 1 point pro
-Ignored argument- 1 point con
-Ignored argument (Twice)- 1 point con
-Homosexuals die 20 years younger- 1 point pro
-Heart disease rebuttal- 1 point con
-Adopting argument- 1 point con
-High Bias Rates- 1 point con
-HIV rates and anal tissue- 1 point pro
-Longevity source rebuttal- 1 point con
-Final nail-in-coffin of comparative races- 1 point con
-Divorce argument- 1 point con
-Sources- 1 point pro
-Heart disease rebuttal- 1 point pro
-Kink rebuttal- 1 point pro
-Final Tally: con- 9 points. Pro- 6 points
Sources
Pro provided sources dated at over 20 years for a movement currently gaining speed and safety, therefore, point to con.
Spelling/grammar
Both sides had pretty good spelling, but I saw pro spell dying as dieing (4 times) so point to con.
Counduct
Tie, no swears or over-repetitiveness.

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@Pinkfreud08

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Vote Reported: Pinkfreud08 // Mod Action: Removed

Points awarded: Tie

RFD: Both were very rude towards each-other and the argument didn't go anywhere.
The spelling and grammar for both were also equally as decent, same with sources.
In the end, neither convinced me.

Reason for mod action: To justify a no-points awarded vote, the voter must offer some reason specific to the debate itself which explains why they were unable to award points. Because this RFD could've been C/P'd to any debate on the site, it is not sufficiently context-specific.



The voter should review the COC here: https://www.debateart.com/rules
The voter should also review this: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/346?page=1&post_number=4

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@Pinkfreud08
@Tiwaz

I am off work and will be looking into everything tomorrow. That being said, please stop replying to each other. This is an official moderator restraining order.

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@Ramshutu

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Vote Reported: Ramshutu // Mod Action: Not Removed

Reason for mod action: Full forfeit debates are not moderated unless the voter voted for the forfeiting side, per the site voting policy guidelines. No moderation action is appropriate on this vote.


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@Bazza97125

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Vote Reported: Bazza97125 // Mod Action: Removed

RFD: Eminem is the best

Reason for mod action: In order to be eligible to vote, Accounts must have read the site's COC AND completed at least 2 non-troll debates without any forfeits OR posted 100 forum posts

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@Bazza97125

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Vote Reported: Bazza97125 // Mod Action: Removed

Points awarded: 1 point to pro

RFD: Intense hip-hop music]
[Pounding on door]
Hold on a minute.
MAN IN HALL: What the fuck?
JIMMY: Hold on a fuckin' minute!
[Hip-hop music stops suddenly]
[Hip-hop beat from other room]
[Vomiting]
[Pounding on door]
MAN IN HALL: Yo, what the fuck?
Quit playing with your fucking self!
Open the door!
Fuck, man.
Who the fuck is you, nigga?
Where are you going?
-Backstage. I'm in the battle.
-You can't.
-I got a stamp on my hand
No. I'm at New Detro

Reason for mod action: In order to be eligible to vote, Accounts must have read the site's COC AND completed at least 2 non-troll debates without any forfeits OR posted 100 forum posts

The voter should review the COC here: https://www.debateart.com/rules
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@Bazza97125

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Vote Reported: Bazza97125 // Mod Action: Removed

Points awarded: 2 points to pro for source, 1 point to con for s/g

RFD: Con is cool

Reason for mod action: In order to be eligible to vote, Accounts must have read the site's COC AND completed at least 2 non-troll debates without any forfeits OR posted 100 forum posts

The voter should review the COC here: https://www.debateart.com/rules
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@Bazza97125

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Vote Reported: {username} // Mod Action: Removed

Points awarded: 2 points to pro for source, 1 point to con for s/g

RFD: Your gay and there is nothing you can don

Reason for mod action: In order to be eligible to vote, Accounts must have read the site's COC AND completed at least 2 non-troll debates without any forfeits OR posted 100 forum posts

The voter should review the COC here: https://www.debateart.com/rules
The voter should also review this: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/346?page=1&post_number=4

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