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I dont care about their taxes themselves but they should pay their employees more money, we fund the welfare of amazon workers who cant make a living wage
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@Ramshutu
its interesting you point that out, Im glad im not the only one who saw the massive drop in Creationism vs evolution now. I dont think its attributed to trump only though
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@FLRW
this is exactly what im talking about
and no, it isnt a klan robe
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@zedvictor4
interesting zed
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@949havoc
its a good document but useless today
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@949havoc
its worthless because it doenst mean shit anymore, any law in america can get passed and the Constitution is 100% useless, thats why blind worship of this piece of paper cant go on in the year 2021
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@bmdrocks21
i've never understood the slavery argument, 95% of white people come from humble beginnings. My family come from inner-city working class Catholics who have literally zero connection to slavery but it doesnt matter to these people.
Additionally, the love to say that white people have no culture. Which makes no sense because we absolutely do have a culture(or at least did before it was eroded into mindless consumerism).
There extremely direct. That hate white people. They absolutely hate them yet nobody wants to say this?
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@949havoc
no he didnt, he proved nothing
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@zedvictor4
all i saw was truth
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@bmdrocks21
yeah i see what your saying, its just because the west is white, everything else is just noise
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@thett3
@Wylted
"Leftists tend to hate anything that has an image of being strong, good and successful. They hate America, they hate Western civilization, they hate white males, they hate rationality. The reasons that leftists give for hating the West, etc. clearly do not correspond with their real motives. They SAY they hate the West because it is warlike, imperialistic, sexist, ethnocentric and so forth, but where these same faults appear in socialist countries or in primitive cultures, the leftist finds excuses for them, or at best he GRUDGINGLY admits that they exist; whereas he ENTHUSIASTICALLY points out (and often greatly exaggerates) these faults where they appear in Western civilization. Thus it is clear that these faults are not the leftist’s real motive for hating America and the West. He hates America and the West because they are strong and successful."
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@949havoc
no he doesnt spell it out, how does the referendum go against the Constitution? Ramhustu is trying to argue that America is inheritably bureaucratic and doesnt fall into the will of the people
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@949havoc
how did they not abide by the law?
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@949havoc
i will because the Constitution has zero right to be used against Americans, wouldnt you agree?
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@Double_R
how about the voters? this was a referendum,not a bill
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@Ramshutu
you say that the judge needs to be there by the senate but then say that the senate represents a minority of the US population
why is democracy not present in the US? What part of the proposition 187 was illegal
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@oromagi
have they? how is this law unconstituional
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@Double_R
these rules are dumb, a judge should have this power
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@949havoc
true, so why do we allow 21st century interpretations of it?
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@949havoc
um no it shouldnt be the law of the land that a proper proposition was denied by a judge for bullshit reasons
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@949havoc
The Supreme court is a little different, explain to me why a judge can shut down a proposition that people voted for?
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@949havoc
your not quite getting it, yes laws can be reversed over time and even amendments can be voided within the Constitution but requires a major amount of political capital for that to happen, however a single judge can shut down a vote she doesnt like and claim it was "unconstitutional" out of nowhere.
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@oromagi
orry, but that's just a label you are tagging yourself with. No genuine American Conservative would ever argue that "The Constitution is Utterly Worthless."You are just demonstrating that you don't understand the fundamentals of Conservativism.
The Constitution is useless in application to Courts not in principle.
Anti-Conservative as well as anti-Liberal. You are arguing that the most stable and prosperous instrument of government devised by humankind means "absolutely nothing." Do you have an alternative form of government that you'd like to suggest?
How is this the best government in mankind? Every single country today has a Constitution but not all of them allow it to be "up for interpretation" when it comes to courts.
Shall we agree that the majority of all Americans holds and by rights ought to hold the ultimate reigns of power- of the people, by the people, for the people?
Yes they do hold rights, do you think they have a right to make a democratic statewide decision where the Consitition does not make a point on?
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@949havoc
do you understand the function of a Constitution. It is suppose to be the fundamental law of the land yet the rulings and interpretations of it can be reversed?? why
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@oromagi
those are opinion polls nationwide, these are legislatures who were elected who made laws in their own state
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@Ramshutu
Im going to assume not because it is an official amendment. The amendments require a vast majority of elected officials to get passed. Nowhere in the Constitution did it note on the issue of immigration meaning that the non-elected and lifetime appointed judge struck down a decision on zero constitutional basis. See the difference?
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@Double_R
i suppose so, but this judge was not elected and serves a lifetime appointment and they went against the will of an entire state. Is that concerning?
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Last time i checked I literally never mentioned the specific amendments themselves but only the Constitution's application when used in courts
please try and keep up.
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@oromagi
ok pal
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@lebronski
you realize that literally the exact opposite could happen too? a judge could keep slavery legal against the will of the people too
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@oromagi
please answer the thread, The constitution is set up in a way so that judges can go directly against the will of the people.
Why is it like this, how can we prevent this?
and yes im a conservative and i know they worship the constitution but they dont realize that the Constitution means absolutely nothing because what is "constitutional" in the first place is decided by regular people like me and you who have opinions
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The fact that 9 men in robes can pull some bullshit reason and claim it to "constitutional" in order to enact their own agenda means that the Constitution is utterly worthless.
Heres another example- in 1994 the people of California VOTED to stop the massive immigration and demographic change that was present there BUT a judge pulled some bullshit reason and declared it "unconstitutional", meaning it was voided, thats right in the United States of America a judge can declare something VIA THE CONSTITUTION to shut down something that WAS DEMOCRATICALLY DECIDED ON. This means that in effect-the Constitution actively worked against the will of the American people.
Something needs to change. The judges have too much power.
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@oromagi
where u get that
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@TheUnderdog
wrong, most conservatives just take it as a meme for joe rogan
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no conservative is taking ivermectin, its just joe rogan
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@zedvictor4
yes but those were small numbers
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@Double_R
if you cant understand it then thats not my problem
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Based on the second sentence I know exactly who wrote this
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@zedvictor4
zed, the vast majority are european with african americans and some natives
the different groups came after the 1965 hart-celler act
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@FLRW
they were let in and there have been many protests in the capital, remember kavanaugh
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@zedvictor4
no, i love everybody, but we should stay in our own countries :)
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