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@Stephen
i quoted your threads and described them
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@BrotherDThomas
Doc,

YOUR QUOTE THAT I TOLD YOU NOT TO USE FOR OBVIOUS REASONS: "Hosea 9 describes a punishment from God"

I know, DUH, but what part of my statement in said post didn't you understand herewith:  "Now, if you say that the people of Ephraim did evil, therefore it gave Jesus the right to have the women miscarry, and to SLAY THEIR INNOCENT BABIES IF THEY WERE BORN, the bottom line is the biblical axiom that JESUS KILLED INNOCENT LIFE, WITHIN THE WOMB, AND OUTSIDE OF THE WOMB! https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/6316-the-meaning-of-death?page=5&post_number=113

As the ONLY True Christian upon this prestigious forum, I have to accept that Jesus is a brutal Abortionist, and with you running away from what you were supposed to do, in that you said that simple theological explanations can remove any disturbing  narrative, YOU DIDN'T DO IT, OTHER THAN TO RUN AWAY!

Therefore, it can be precluded that Dr. Franklin, and so does TRADESECRET since the two of you are "carbon copies," that the ever loving and forgiving Jesus, is in fact, A BRUTAL ABORTIONIST that kills innocent zygotes, fetus' and babies under this biblical axiom in Hosea 9:11-16!  
God is not an abortionist 


"Still, some people make the argument that since there is a high rate of miscarriage in the natural reproductive process, God in essence “performs abortions.”
Randy Alcorn writes this in his book ProLife Answers to ProChoice Arguments, which applies well to this passage: “But the difference [between spontaneous miscarriage and human-induced abortion] is profound. What God does is up to Him, but we are not God. We do not have His prerogatives over human life and death. Spontaneous miscarriages are not our responsibility. What is our responsibility is child deaths caused by [abortion].”
That miscarriages happen does not minimize God’s love for children, and His overseeing of each child’s conception, which are clear truths from Scripture (see this article). Those truths are not antithetical to God’s prerogatives over life and death.
Gotquestions.org has a helpful Q&A on this. They say:
We did not start that tiny heart beating, create the blood that is flowing through the fetus’s veins, or preordain the days of a child’s life as God has done. Therefore, when human beings induce an abortion, we are destroying God’s creative work without His permission. However, when God chooses, through miscarriage, to take a child’s life early, He has the right to do so. It is His child, His work, His masterpiece (Ephesians 2:10Mark 10:14).
In answering those who question you about this passage, I would emphasize that abortion is the intentional taking of a human life by other humans and is therefore prohibited in Scripture: “You shall not commit murder” (Exodus 20:13). Though God allowed these miscarriages as part of His judgment on Israel (and judgment is the key theme in this passage), these verses in Hosea do not endorse abortion, nor is God in any sense “performing an abortion.”
This article has some helpful talking points about miscarriages in general:
The difference between abortion and miscarriage is exactly the same as the difference between murder and accidental death. One is a deliberate, intentional killing of a person. The other is an unintended death resulting from chance circumstances. One involves people taking it upon themselves to end a life, the other is a death resulting from inadvertent situations. An abortion is a deliberate action, taken with the specific intent of ending a human life. There is no moral comparison to a miscarriage, any more than there is one between arson and an accidental house fire. It would be ridiculous to excuse an arsonist on the grounds that some houses burn down by accident. Abortion is not made any more moral by referring to miscarriage, any more than murder can be justified by referring to accidental deaths.
Miscarriages occur when something triggers a premature birth. Often, this happens early enough in the pregnancy that the unborn child does not survive. The cause might be an illness, an injury, or some genetic issue with the child itself. It may even be due to the negligence or carelessness of the mother or some other person. Miscarriages are unintentional, and this makes all the difference. God designed the universe to operate under a set of rules and natural laws. He only interferes with the “normal” operation of nature under extraordinary circumstances. The question of why God does not prevent miscarriages is not much different than the question of why God does not prevent any other evil—or all evil, for that matter.

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@Reece101
can you explain what you mean by that
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@BrotherDThomas
Hosea 9 describes a punishment from God
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@Tradesecret
for sure
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@Bones
your getting free will wrong. It doesnt give you the choice to do impossible things. Free will doesnt magically let you become a fucking traingle
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@Stephen
lets take a look at your threads

"Jesus is Not God"-where an atheist tries to argue theology, you know its going to be bad
"How did they know"-a claimed contradiction that is easily false, again- another 5th grade athiest objection
"Why did jesus have to die to forgive our sins"-again, theology explains why
"'annonting' of Jesus"- another thread where you claim to make some brilliant revelation contradiction but basic theology 101 disproves your claims

i can go on
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@TheMorningsStar
how about a team analogy

you have a team- God
you have 3 members on that team-Father, Son, and Holy Spirit

so the 3 members make one.
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pretty cool
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@Bones
But you still went anyways because you wanted to. 

nope.

This isn't about becoming a female, this is about loving a male. If you are a heterosexual male, and lust for male is simply a mind thing which requires no physical change, surely you can change your mind about your sexuality? 
if it isnt a choice to begin with then it doesnt fit free will definition

Don't you see that this leads to an infinite regress? You say you want to do something, but free will requires you to be able to justify why you did what you did. And then you give a reason for why you did what you did, but then why did you do the thing which you did? 

For example, consider the following thought experiment. 

Pick a random country. Any country. Notice this processes which you are going through. Notice the selecting and the choosing, and the "freeness "which you are going through. What if I were to say that this very processes proves that free will does not exist? 
 
In order to unpack this, we must first establish the options that one has to pick. 
 
1)A person is not free to choose a country which they do not know exists. 
2)A person cannot choose a country which didn't occur to them
3)You can only choose what occurs to you
 
The first option is obvious. If you don't know it, then you cannot choose it. You are not free to choose it, so to speak. 
 
The second option however, is a little more confronting. Perhaps all readers know about Argentina but for some reason, your Argentina neurons were not functioning and you did you think it it. This then begs the question, what canyon think about?
 
The third option is to unpack what you can choose. Say you chose America. The first thing to note is that you only "chose" it because it occurred to you. But how do you choose what occurs to you? The process of something occurring toyon is unsolicited, it is impossible to choose what occurs to you. 
 
Secondly, say the countries America and China occurred to you (you did not choose for these two countries to occur to you, they simply did). Ask yourself, why did you choose America? When subjects in a lab are asked to justify their actions(whilst under the influence of some independent variable) the test subject usually does not know the real reason why their actions occurred the way that they did (assuming an experienced experimenter was involved). However, this isn't to say they don't have a tale to tell. If you asked a person who has been hypnotised why they did certain things, they usually have bizarre reasons forwhy the did what they did (though unconvincing to us, the subject remains convinced of their tale). Returning to the case of free will, why does one choose Americas opposed to China. Well, one may say that "they just had an American hotdog last night and so America appealed to them". However, this is no justification, it is merely stating a fact. It's like if you asked a murderer why they murdered and they said "I killed him". So why choose America instead of China because you ate a hotdog? Why couldn't you think "well I've just had a hotdog, let's switch things up, I'll choose China". This process of "choosing" because of your apparent "justification" is no more than your neurons making a decision for you and you being aware of this decision. 
 
You cannot know how things occur to you and neither can you know why you "chose" the option of which you did. 

free will does not require a justification for your action to be done. therefore your entire stupid thought experiment is wrong

and you can not which things occured to you, you can know what country your born it and etc
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@Discipulus_Didicit
great ok
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@Stephen
hey i really dont care for your wall of text about how tradesecret is a pastor and lectures at college.

your posts are total shit. your threads are just taking a chapter from the Bible and making 5th grade atheist objections to it that can be explained with simple theology. and then you get angry and call people names and keep lists of what they do for a living

weird behavior
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@Tradesecret
well tradesecret, i think they are obsessed with you

they keep photos of your profile on their computer and upload it to the internet, they go back 2 years to a random thread on DDO for your quote(either that or they saw harietts spam), and they keep lists of your activities irl

thats an issue
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@zedvictor4
Consider the process Doc.

How random can random  be?

Ultimately a random choice is an internal choice, subject to internal data analysis.

More like a snap decision perhaps?
nothing is truly random zed

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@Sum1hugme
I'm not sure where I lost you. 

Either we are choosing freely, or our choices are determined by an unbroken chain of events going back to the beginning of time. Either our actions are the product of some function that is making decisions, the will, or our actions are the inevitable product of cause and effect.

So how do you know that you're choosing freely, and not determined by cause and effect?

we can still make our own decisions despite a chain of events from the beginning of time 
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@SkepticalOne
ok i guess
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Check out the game Mafia City (phone-only, geared towards Android)
the ads are funny though
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Children should be born into wedlock with their biological, adult parents
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@Mesmer
big agree on this one :)
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@oromagi
FREEDOM is "The lack of a specific constraint, or of constraints in general;"

FREE WILL is "The ability to choose one's actions,"

Seems to me one can't choose her own actions without first  being free of constraints.
i am arguing that free will compatibilism EXISTS, it isnt inheritably good nor evil, its free will

that definition of freedom is inheritably evil. That is because when you remove constraints in a society, whether its religion, morals, etc-you are then restricted to your human nature only, and since the natural state of humans is one of evil, the freedom will produce evil.

take a look at what "live and let live" did to america. Absolute freedom gets rid of constraints and people are restricted to their bodily desires only. One of their main bodily desire is sex. And that is why every song, tv show, advertisement, has some sexual undertone. 

If there were values to control the freedom, then there would be no sexual undertones today. Take a look at vietnam. It bans pornography and cites the reason being " it is against the values of the Vietnamese people". THAT is what needs to be done, lets get rid of this whole "freedom" and "live and let live" attitude
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@oromagi
OK, but the subject of your topic is SCIENCE- how SCIENCE lost the public's trust.  If we're all on the same page now about how that statement is total bullshit, then shouldn't we shut this topic down and then you could start a new topic where you can try to blame the media for your discontents
no this is perfectly acceptable for this thread

1."sceince" says to stay home for covid
2."science" says that not staying home will increase covid cases
3."science" doesnt say this for the mass protests from BLM
4."science" lies and the media reports that the protests didnt cause covid cases

Therefore, science loses the publics trust

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@EtrnlVw
aight thx
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@oromagi
What?  You agree that science is just following the facts but then you want to  fault science for the 36% who don't want the facts?  Why aren't the 36% to blame for preferring lies?

Isn't that 36% pretty much exactly the 36% in Donald Trump's approval rating?  who think the election was fraud and that white supremacists trying to assassinate the Vice President is just politics as usual?  I don't think that it's SCIENCE's fault that 36% of people can't allow themselves the freedom to follow the facts- it's the 36% who have to believe Trump secretly did a good job with the pandemic and that Trump secretly won the election that can't afford to let facts creep in.
the 36% are perfectly accepting of facts, one problem though- science, as an institution is being used against them. biden, democrats, and others are constantly creaming "believe in science" and other bullshit that would alienate the 36% and would lead them away from science as an institution.

another problem, many times the science is against the democrat agenda and yet they still spam the lie. Gender science and the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine is two examples of the scientific facts going against the democratic agenda. however, this science is ignored and ridiculed by the INSTITUTION of science, BUT IF THE INSTITUITON of science followed the principle of "facts rule", this science would not get ignored.

Wait, what happened to "indeed it is true" from last sentence?  Science is hardly perfect but there's no human tradition that tries harder to base itself in facts than science.  
as an institution, science is not based on the facts, as demonstrated many times before

've already disproved BUZZ WORD.  Either counter my argument or stop repeating your disproved argument.
buzzword:a word or phrase, often an item of jargon, that is fashionable at a particular time or in a particular context.

slogans such as "believe in science" is
  • an item of jargon as it promoted by one group of people 
  • it is used to smear political opponents in a particular context
yes science is a buzzword, and it shouldnt be

lease define "scientism."
Scientism is the promotion of science as the best or only objective means by which society should determine normative and epistemological values.


Can you name some of these "enemies of science?"
as an institution, science hates right wingers and anybody who has dissenting opinions

disproving false beliefs?  I'll point you back to Galileo.
thats part of science ok, therefore it is part of science's job to debunk transgender nonsense
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I never made such a claim. To my knowledge Trump has never publically encouraged intentional suicide and I never said he did.
"us in the non-suicide community call a bad idea"
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@Stephen
And "he" has also said he was female too,https://ibb.co/NFcsLgy


You just can't accept him for the compulsive liar that he is. Which to my mind makes you as bad, if not worse, than he.
he confimred it was mle
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@Bones
No you don't. Consider the following. 

P1. You can only ever do something if you want to or if you are forced to.
  • Truism. Try and name an action which you "chose" to do which you didn't want to do and weren't forced. 
P2. Being forced to do something is not illustrative of free will.
  • Truism.
P3. You cannot choose what you want.
  • Assuming your heterosexual, try and want to be gay. Try and want to love your own sex. Impossible. 

P4. If the two conditions of free will are not satisfied, determinism is true.

C1. Determinism is true.
"You can only ever do something if you want to"

why? theres plenty of times in my lifetime that i would recall not wanting to do something but going anyway

"Assuming your heterosexual, try and want to be gay. Try and want to love your own sex. Impossible. "

thats not really free will. That is trying to fight the natural way you are born. Free will refers to the choices and the will that you have. If you are born a male, no free will allows you to become female.

those are the problems i see but the main thing is that you dont get free will

free will is making choices that you wish to make. uncased actions, such as the one you mention about homosexuality dont count for free will
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@zedvictor4
ne is free to choose, but one inevitably chooses for a reason.

If one decides to make a random choice, then one does for that reason. Therefore the choice ceases to be random.
are you saying that people can not make a random choice?

i disagree with that zed
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@zedvictor4
its the queen zed    /s

check profile description
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@Sum1hugme
How do you know that? It sure appears that way, but where does cause and effect end and the "will" begin?
i have literally no idea what on earth you are saying
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@BrotherDThomas
oc,

YOUR WISHFUL THINKING QUOTE #1: "Tradesecret confirmed he was male, im assuming that the female was a mistake"

A MISTAKE? LOL!!!!   Okay, if you think this is true, THEN TRADESECRET IS MORE DUMBFOUNDED THAN WE THINK THEY ARE! You just made Tradesecret the continued fool, way to go Doc!  


YOUR WISHFUL THINKING QUOTE #2:  "it is really weird that you have a photo of another users profile and uploaded it on the internet."

HELLO?  It was a copy of the LYING Tradesecret at DEBATE.ORG, remember? Jesus does not like LIARS and SEXUAL DEVIANTS, and therefore it is called "Investigative Reporting" in continually showing TRADESECRET as the total hypocrite and FAKE that they are!


YOUR WISHFUL THINKING QUOTE #3:  "im defending tradesecret because he is a qualiy poster here, you on the other hand..."

You actually think that the Bible stupid and ignorant TRADESECRET is a "qualiy" poster?   ROFLOL!!!!  Surely you jest? LOL!!!!  Have you forgotten about the following TRUTHFUL header shown below that I use when engaging this RUNAWAY from the Bible fool Tradesecret? Huh?  How is the following a "quality" poster upon this forum shown below?

TRADESECRET, whose gender went from a woman, to a man, and now unknown, the Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO,  Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he/she/unknown follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark, the pseudo-christian that says kids that curse their parents should be killed, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19 and 2 Timothy 4:3, an admitted sexual deviant, and had ungodly Gender Reassignment Surgery, Satanic Bible Rewriter, an embarrassed LIAR of their true gender, and goes against Jesus in not helping the poor, has turned into a HYPOCRITE, and a blatant LIAR,


Doc, for the sake of me not embarrassing you even more in front of the membership, you are excused.

1. idk why he was female, the only guess is that it is a mistake.

what is real bad about this is that you and stephen are nugding tradesecret to reveal personal information about himself. he has to confirm that he was male and even said he that he was a lawyer along with pastor, this straight up should not be allowed

2.brotherd, it is objectively weird to do that, period

3.what have you seriously contributed to the board? tradesecret actually writes coherent posts with good points while you shout and belly ache and pretent to bible slap silly people? your running a character here.

for the sake of me not embarrassing you even more in front of the membership, you are excused.
im excused? why thank you

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@BrotherDThomas
Doc,

It is truly embarrassing that Tradesecret cannot defend themselves, but rather have you do it for them which is priceless to say the least!

Do you know why Tradesecret cannot defend themselves in this embarrassing situation for them?   It is because they would have to engage me, where I would make short work of Tradesecret and make their presence within this forum even more embarrassing than it already is! Tradesecret  is a "chicken" to even think about engaging me as it is shown with their SILENCE to me upon these topics since their initial postings showing their GENDER REASSIGNMENT, and SEXUAL DEVIANCY!  These two ungodly acts goes against Jesus' words within the scriptures as I have shown!  

Dr.Franklin, I am going to ask you to quit spamming this forum with your outright stupidity and ignorance upon these topics in question, understood?
You are beginning to be as Bible stupid as your cohort Tradesecret You don't want that do you?  NOT!
the sexual deviant quote is literally harietta's spam 

also, i am not spamming this forum

spam is:irrelevant or inappropriate messages sent on the internet to a large number of recipients.

unfortunately, this makes sense as you have repeated irrelevant information about tradesecret where i have not

whats next? are you gonna bible slap me silly? LOL
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i know that this is from my thread where you claim falsely that trump told people to kill themselves.

the joke here now is irrelevant
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@FLRW
It is important to note that it is very dangerous to try to use this method to disinfect surfaces inside homes. To be fully effective, a system must be designed so that a person is not directly exposed to the light.
do you get that trump never recommended people to do it directly, right? it was a scientific thing.

yes, directly exposing one self will be bad but trump NEVER encouraged that, it was supposed to be a scientific experiment he was involved with
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Top 59 ways to die in America.
lot of cancer, thats quite sad
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@Discipulus_Didicit
We in the non-suicidal community refer to this as a bad idea.

Boys and girls... please don't drink cleaning chemicals.
donald trump
  • said that they were experimenting with ideas
  • mentioned other treatments
  • broadly mentioned UV lights
if i wanted people to use UV lights i wouldnt say that, I would go and direclty say use the uv lights, but he didnt, you lied about what he said and your stupid jokes arent cutting it pal

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@oromagi
Well, science has to stay on the side of the facts whether the public divides over those facts or not.  When Copernicus showed that the Earth was not the center of the universe, the people were divided but science had no obligation to modify the truth to preserve unity.  When science said that black people were just as human as whites, people divided violently and died by the hundreds of thousands on both sides of the issue but science had not obligation except to the observable facts and repeatable results.   People divide over the efficacy of vaccines but science is not divided on that question and has no obligation to treat the skeptics as rational because they are not rational, by and large.

There is no supposed to be about Science- science just follows that facts.
indeed that is true, and science can be divided and debated but is it supposed to be that 36% of people straight up dont trust it?

but today, the science is not based on facts, its a buzz word used by proponents of scientism to try and smear their enemies, never before has science served this purpose.
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@oromagi
idk about fauci but the media certainly lied for this
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@BrotherDThomas
Doc,

YOUR WANTING POST AGAIN: "tradesecret already said he was a male, he confirmed it"

Tell me, then why did the Bible dumbfounded Tradesecret show that he was a FEMALE?!  Do you understand simple logic?!
Tradesecret as a female: https://ibb.co/NFcsLgy

YOUR WANTING POST #2:  "stop the lie, your spamming the lie"

How can I stop the lie, where there is none? Again, what part of logic 101 don't you understand when Tradesecret showed themselves as a FEMALE?!

YOUR WANTING POST #3:  "this section of the forum was actually moderated, you would have been permabanned ages ago"

This forum is always moderated as previously shown. How can you get banned by telling the truth, or the least of which, questioning it?  Here, let me try and get through to you,  when Tradesecret shows themselves as a FEMALE, and then changes their Profile Page to being a MALE, then subsequently when I called Tradesecret out upon this blatant contradiction, then. all of a sudden Tradesecret became an UNKNOWN to save further embarrassment, get it? Huh? Maybe? Just a little bit?  LOL!


Tradesecret has 3 OPTIONS as follows:

1. You CANNOT be a MALE and a FEMALE at the same time unless Tradesecret is a hermaphrodite which is totally ungodly!  DO YOU UNDERSTAND?!!!!

2.  In Tradesecret again, showing that first they were a WOMAN, and then they became a MAN, and eventually an UNKNOWN, precludes that Tradesecret then had a SEX CHANGE, DO YOU UNDERSTAND?!!!!

3. When Tradesecret CHANGED their gender in their profile page 3 TIMES, then who is truly LYING to this forum in what gender they truly are when they don't at least "try" to explain the overall situation?  Guess who?  YES, TRADESECRET!  Therefore, using your notion of me being banned, do you also want Tradesecret banned as well for LYING?!

If I may be Frank, and you can continue to be Dr. Franklin, you have your own problems upon this forum relative to being as dumbfounded of the Bible as Tradesecret is, therefore I would suggest that even though Tradesecret cannot defend themselves in this predicament that they have been caught in, you should remain upon the wayside where you belong in the first place, okay? Thank you.


THE NEXT DART MEMBER IN TRYING TO DEFEND THE BIBLE STUPID TRADESECRET BECAUSE THEY CAN'T DO IT THEMSELVES WILL BE ... ?


1.Tradesecret confirmed he was male, im assuming that the female was a mistake, and it is really weird that you have a photo of another users profile and uploaded it on the internet.

2.you are spamming this, every post you address tradesecret begins with "TRADESECRET, who went from...." that is spam

3.im defending tradesecret because he is a qualiy poster here, you on the other hand...
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@oromagi
the philosophical definition of free will is not the cringe political definition of freedom
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@Sum1hugme
ok, well you have the ability to make your own choices
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we have it,ok
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@Discipulus_Didicit
no, he wasnt encouraging a single soul about putting uv on your body

he said "So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. "

literally saying that he is looking for a scientific treatment of covid, and while he did mention uv lights, he also mentions A LIGHT, it was testing for science

the tel aviv study talked about uv lights because they were testing it

trump, the most pro-science president ever then 
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@BrotherDThomas
Doc,

YOUR WANTING POST ONCE AGAIN: "somehow i doubt that he went through gender reassignment surgery, idk though, i dont know him but you cant just make accusations like that"

Okay, if you doubt the Bible dumbfounded TRADESECRET did not have "Reassignment Gender Surgery" as the obvious conclusion as shown, then why did their gender change from a woman, to a man, and also to unknown?!  Enlighten the membership please!  BEGIN:


YOUR WANTING POST AGAIN: "i dont know him but you cant just make accusations like that"

Huh? The accusations that you are disturbed about are the SAME as when I bring forth biblical narratives that you fail to address!  LOL! Doc, you're funny!

Doc ol' buddy, take a needed break from the action before you really step in the proverbial poo again, okay?  Let the Bible fool TRADESECRET "try" and fight their own battles upon this forum, whereas it is embarrassing enough for him/her/unknown as it is in continuing sinning!
tradesecret already said he was a male, he confirmed it

stop the lie, your spamming the lie, if this section of the forum was actually moderated, you would have been permabanned ages ago
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@Wylted

related article
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@oromagi
Well, that's quite false and demonstrates a real ignorance about the nature of science.  Science is inherently, perpetually controversial.  As far as science is concerned, there is no such thing as an uncontroversial statement because science makes zero assertion of truth.  Science does not state that gravity is a fact, science observes the consistent attraction of objects according to mass, calculates the relationship between mass and attraction and then successfully predicts the pull of objects like distant planets on objects like spaceships.   Astonishingly powerful and reliable but if you ask a scientist to call it truth, a scientist will call it a theory, a law that defines a reliable relationship but not necessarily true in all circumstances or futures.

All science is always controversial.  Both science and religion try to discover the nature of the universe but one of the main differences between the two is that religion always comes to some conclusion, which must be accepted as token of membership in the congregation.  Science has no absolutes, everything is challengeable with sufficient proofs, everything is theory and no conclusion is absolute, only very consistent in outcome.
what i meant by controversy is that is is not supposed to divide the public, yes science theories come and go but it is proffessional and its hard to compare science to something like congress
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thats about right
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@BrotherDThomas
Doc,

YOUR QUOTE REGARDING THE SEXUAL DEVIANT AND GENDER CHANGED TRADESECRET: "please stop spamming about tradesecrets gender"

WHY?  Are you embarrassed as Jesus is regarding the "obvious fact" that Tradesecret had "Reassignment Gender Surgery" as explicitly shown which goes directly against Jesus' words within the scriptures?

When dealing with Tradesecret's continued sinning, I am just doing what Jesus' inspired words tell me to do, understood?  Therefore, do you want to call Timothy a LIAR regarding what he said in this passage below that I am following to the letter? Huh?

"As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear (1 Timothy 5:20).  


Always remember, I am the only TRUE Christian upon this forum because I follow ALL, I repeat, ALL of what the inspired words of our serial killer Jesus promotes within the JUDEO-Christian Bible, understood?  Therefore, if it makes a pseudo-christian member of this forum embarrassed at their ungodly expense, then so be it, praise Jesus!

somehow i doubt that he went through gender reassignment surgery, idk though, i dont know him but you cant just make accusations like that
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@BrotherDThomas
Doc,

YOUR QUOTE RELATING TO THE PATHETIC RUNAWAY PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN ETHANG5: "nah hes fine, hes just always disliked DART"

You said the Bible fool ETHANG5 always disliked DART? Huh?  Is that why this fool stayed upon this forum for long time periods  BETWEEN his lengthy and rightful bans? LOL. Doc, surely you jest!

No, if the truth were known, the Bible inept ETHANG5 is not here anymore because many of the members of this forum easily handed his Satanic ass to him in where what he thought he knew about the faith, HE DID NOT! Therefore, to save further embarrassment on his part, HE RAN away to seek refuge somewhere else as he is in HIDING once again!  

ETHANG5, the king of non sequitur discussions!   Do we really miss this pseudo-christian fool? NOT!


NEXT?
nope, it has nothing to do with the conversations here, he doesnt really like dart

and how is he the king of non-sequiter discussions?\

and, he is also not satanist

i can keep going
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@Wylted
people also lost trust in science when people like fauci came out and said that BLM protests could not spread covid19. 
good point
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@Wylted
All right.  Well, if you think that Trump withholding treatment data from the public was good then I think we've established where you are coming from.  Let's refute the premise that "Science has lost the public's trust"

According to Gallup's 2021 Confidence in Institutions poll, Science is one of the most trusted institutions in America.  

64% of Americans say they trust science a Great deal/Quite a lot.  That might not seem impressive until compared to other results:

51% trust the Police
44% trust the Medical system
38% trust the Presidency
37% trust Organized Religion
36% trust the Supreme Court
33% trust Banks
32% trust Public Schools
29% trust Big Tech
28% trust Labor Unions
21% trust Newspapers
20% trust Criminal Justice
18% trust Big Business
16% trust TV news
12% trust Congress


everything that you listed are supposed to be controversial

science aint supposed to be
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@Discipulus_Didicit
What do you think about this quote in relation to your comments about his scientific literacy?

"researchers from Tel Aviv University (TAU) have proven that the coronavirus can be killed efficiently, quickly, and cheaply using ultraviolet (UV) light-emitting diodes (UV-LEDs). They believe that the UV-LED technology will soon be available for private and commercial use.
This is the first study conducted on the disinfection efficiency of UV-LED irradiation at different wavelengths or frequencies on a virus from the family of coronaviruses. The study was led by Professor Hadas Mamane, Head of the Environmental Engineering Program at TAU's School of Mechnical Engineering, Iby and Aladar Fleischman Faculty of Engineering. The article was published in November 2020 issue of the Journal of Photochemistry and Photobiology B: Biology.
"The entire world is currently looking for effective solutions to disinfect the coronavirus," said Professor Mamane. "The problem is that in order to disinfect a bus, train, sports hall, or plane by chemical spraying, you need physical manpower, and in order for the spraying to be effective, you have to give the chemical time to act on the surface. Disinfection systems based on LED bulbs, however, can be installed in the ventilation system and air conditioner, for example, and sterilize the air sucked in and then emitted into the room.
"We discovered that it is quite simple to kill the coronavirus using LED bulbs that radiate ultraviolet light," she explained. "We killed the viruses using cheaper and more readily available LED bulbs, which consume little energy and do not contain mercury like regular bulbs. Our research has commercial and societal implications, given the possibility of using such LED bulbs in all areas of our lives, safely and quickly."
The researchers tested the optimal wavelength for killing the coronavirus and found that a length of 285 nanometers (nm) was almost as efficient in disinfecting the virus as a wavelength of 265 nm, requiring less than half a minute to destroy more than 99.9% of the coronaviruses. This result is significant because the cost of 285 nm LED bulbs is much lower than that of 265 nm bulbs, and the former are also more readily available.
Eventually, as the science develops, the industry will be able to make the necessary adjustments and install the bulbs in robotic systems or air conditioning, vacuum, and water systems, and thereby be able to efficiently disinfect large surfaces and spaces. Professor Mamane believes that the technology will be available for use in the near future.
It is important to note that it is very dangerous to try to use this method to disinfect surfaces inside homes. To be fully effective, a system must be designed so that a person is not directly exposed to the light.
In the future, the researchers will test their unique combination of integrated damage mechanisms and more ideas they recently developed on combined efficient direct and indirect damage to bacteria and viruses on different surfaces, air, and water.
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The study was conducted in collaboration with Professor Yoram Gerchman of Oranim College; Dr. Michal Mandelboim, Director of the National Center for Influenza and Respiratory Viruses at Sheba Medical Center at Tel HaShomer; and Nehemya Friedman from Tel Hashomer.
ABOUT TEL AVIV UNIVERSITY
Tel Aviv University (TAU) is Israel's largest public institution of higher learning and is home to 30,000 students, including 2,100 international students from over 100 countries. The University encompasses nine faculties, 35 schools, 400 labs, and has 17 affiliated hospitals in its network.
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