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@3RU7AL
a master carpenter has different intentions than god
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@Theweakeredge
and Liberals dislike that he's only moderate and not actually left wing.
so is it that or are you "just holding him accountable"
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@Vader
I do admire Greece, they established the basis for Western Civilization and never caved to Islamic Turks, it's something that can be compared to the Irish Catholics who owned 19% of their land and got ethnically cleansed out of the six northern counties, the fighting spirit of small European nations is wonderful and something that connects people
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@TheUnderdog
1) It is consistent pro liberty ethic and consistent with our ethos of being a pro liberty republic. Britain is land of the British. France is land of the French. China is land of the Chinese. These are all ethnostates, which are based on ethnicities. America is not like these ethnostates. America is based off an idea. That idea is to promote god given liberties and secular victimless liberties abroad and domestically. America is land of the free.
true in a way but liberty also means the right to self-govern and the right to control your OWN sovereignty and destiny, having a strong sense of borders and sovereignty actually helps the idea of America being a pro-liberty state.
2) The US debt is paid off in 4 years while giving everyone a tax cut, due to our population, GDP, and tax revenue roughly quadrupling and as a result, paying off the debt becomes significantly easier.
no, the larger the population is, the larger the budget has to account for them, statistically speaking, welfare, and costs will increase. Plus, we have taken in a lot more immigrants but the debt seems to be still going up.
3) America's GDP gets a one time boost of 400%, and rather than America having to compete with China for influence, America would dominates the world stage way more because of our skyrocketed GDP.
So what? GDP has gone up and the cost of living, housing, quality of life, wages, general health, innovation, have all gone down. Muh GDP is never a good indicator of a particular country. LOL, the key to beating China is making sure that the American PEOPLE are moral, religious, healthy, have a good stable career that fulfills them, and are making FAMILIES, China is DESTROYING us and it is because of these factors. But before China, we have to deal with American tyranny.
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@Vader
the eternal Greek rage against the turk
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Lol you got what you voted for,I feel no sympathy
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@Theweakeredge
nope. a perfect god doesn't have to create something perfect
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conservatives should fight for culture and not free market captilism
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@janesix
are you an astrotheologist?
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@RationalMadman
that's not at all what the Bible was referring too
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@Sum1hugme
I agree, there's nothing empirical about the argument, it represents logic and philosophical thinking, it isnt empty
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@Theweakeredge
and thus weren't perfect in that aspect
what aspect? a perfect being has every right to create an imperfect being
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@Stephen
I have won this conversation
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@zedvictor4
Individuals or groups adopt pre-established words or phrases, to represent something other than the pre-established intention.
you think branding whiteness as evil and bad is better than what was supposedly the definition of it before
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@zedvictor4
how was the ontological argument used to put people in line and believe god, it was an intellectual argument and no regular Christian knew of it
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@3RU7AL
there is no such thing an imperfect god
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@Theweakeredge
why would making being less than yourself degrade the value of you
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@Theweakeredge
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@Stephen
You are going in circles, I rebuttal but you keep repeating
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@Stephen
you have made many and I have rebuttaled them
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@3RU7AL
no, a perfect god has the CAPABILITY to create less perfect beings
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@TheUnderdog
just use bullet points for your main sentence
Why should we have open borders
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@Sum1hugme
I think one major problem for the Ontological argument is that it cannot convey knowledge of god's existence. It is a wholly conceptual argument, and without an empirical element,
I suppose so, but why would that be a problem? It's pretty easy to draw up maximally great qualities out of a being.
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@zedvictor4
The ontological argument was aimed at an illiterate, uneducated, enslaved flock. Who once upon a time, were easily duped into believing that any bull**** that came out of the mouths of clergy, was divine.....Blah de blah de blah GOD....Oh and don't forget your tithe you scumbags.
guarantee 90% of Christians didnt know about this until very recently(relatively)
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@Theweakeredge
hmmm... well, the entire concept of "whiteness" was just a way of creating hierarchy by the fascists...
nope, whiteness is a term made up by anti-white people to portray whites negatively
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because biden cant say a sentence without stuttering 15 times
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@Bringerofrain
yeah all people over 50 aren't "high risk" like the article says
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@3RU7AL
why would make a connection to heavenm
please stick to the topic
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@3RU7AL
And that's why we all agree on everything.
thats not the same....
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@Stephen
didn't take you for one of the few theist cretins here,Doc You are now simply following suit and arguing for arguments sake now Doc. Or you are lonely for attention.You have now made a claim. Lets see you produce the proof that many people showed support at Jesus's trial by Pontius Pilate. Show us where the bible states that "many people" pleaded for Jesus the messiah to be released instead of Jesus Barabbas?
why should i take your claim seriously?
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@secularmerlin
Then why is there so much disagreement about right and wrong?
were talking about the fundamentals, not everyday disagreements
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@3RU7AL
Are you suggesting that everyone who disagrees with you throughout all of human history was merely being INSINCERE?
depends on what you mean
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@Stephen
Stop lying , Doc. You are just arguing for arguments sake and becoming just like those other cretins that start crying and lying and making shit up when caught on the backfoot. You haven't explained anything and certainly haven't "debunked " anything.You have even admitted that Thomas did disbelieve but then failed miserably to explain to us why Jesus appeared to a disbeliever , and one that should have known better and not appear to believers and disbelievers today? Why no reprimand of Thomas for being "of little faith"?You haven't explained how Thomas was allowed to "tempt the lord" against the strict command concerning tempting the lord? Deuteronomy 6:16 . Matthew 4:7So when your ready.
just repeating arguments....
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@3RU7AL
The fundamental "get to heaven" bit is correct, but some of the other purely incidental stuff is "wrong"?Who cares?Why would anyone care about the purely incidental stuff?
why not care?
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@TheUnderdog
i cant access it, can you summarize your points
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