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@Casey_Risk
            
          
      I was stream of consciousnessing that post.
Savant seems to be trying to solve the game in a way that I wouldn't expect him to as to as scum. My first thought was the probability shit is probably bullshit, but he's also posting with links to posts and is otherwise putting effort in. Maybe hes scum trying to get town cred but I don't so lol.
I can also see effort on your part. You don't use probability or statistics, but you are trying to read people and you had plenty of back and forths. I think I was iffy on you at first, but you come around.
    
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  Alright. Hey Pie, I finally got some reads.
Savant and Casey are hard town for me. Banana is slightly less town for me, but still pretty town. For my null reads, its something like Pie > Mikal > Wylted = WF. I don't appreciate Mikal death tunneling me. I think its pretty stupid and his logic doesn't really pan out. But, granted, I am town so maybe I am biased. WF does similar things, even in games where I am town. Pie is playing as he usually does, but he is a touch inactive compared to his usual. WF hasn't done much yet and I almost forgot Wylted was playing. Austin and Moozer haven't posted yet, NAI for Moozer. I get Austin might be busy, but I definitely think we should get input from him. I'm obviously not going to suggest we lynch myself, so maybe if Austin will be the lynch if he continues as he is.
    
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  I suppose I'll reread the past few pages and draft up some reads too I guess.
    
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@Casey_Risk
            
          
      Why does everyone seem to misinterpret my jokes? That was clearly tongue in cheek.
    
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@Mikal
            
          
      How dare you? I think my scum play I had when I was last scum 10 games ago was fine. If you want my claim, just say so. Were you tunneling this hard last game?
    
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@Savant
            
          
      Sounds good. I suggest we go with Earth's plan and ask WF to give his full claim at the same time Moozer and Austin give their shows.
Uh, when did I suggest that?
    
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I feel like we can at least confirm a few people by doing what Savant suggested. Its a pretty good idea. I get the coordination is an issue, but like, can we try?
    
  
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@WyIted
            
          
      You know, I don't know much about it, but there are multiple seasons. I'm debating just outting my show lol.
    
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@ILikePie5
            
          
      @Pie
Really? You want me to post my reads practically every time I post?
My show is after 2000.
    
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@Mharman
            
          
      Okay, well an extra night kill is irrelevant then. Assuming we lynch correctly, there will be 4 town and 1 mafia, and if they get two night kills its 2 town to the 1 mafia. So I don't really care.
    
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  I am bouncing back and forth on who I should vote for, but I will steel myself and vote for Cerulean. 
VTL Cerulean
    
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@Mharman
            
          
      I think I was given lesser information NP1 bc I’m supposed to be incentivized to stay alive and get more information.
If my current theory about Moozer is correct, there could also be a negative utility /bait aspect, where if I reveal my NP1 information, it helps scum figure out how to get that extra NK, before I get warned that they have said capabilities in NP2.I base this on the idea that I was told scum doesn’t know their method, not that they don’t know they can get an extra night kill.
You might have already answered, but Pie said mafia get an extra night kill, not just a kill in general?
    
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  I wonder whats the point of an Informed if it doesn't tell you the nature of this hidden aspect.
    
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  At first, Banana should be a really easy scumread for me, especially after reporting that I visited Lunatic, I did not. However the idea that there is a redirector and confirmation that redirector can affect me kinda makes me feel like there is a chance that Banana is town and Mafia is relatively busted. I wonder who her partner is though, because she has been rather lax and there is a nagging feeling that mafia is actually Mhar and Cerulean. 
    
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@Cerulean
            
          
      I don't remember any hidden aspects, but you can also just look back at old Pie Endgames. Its what I am about to do. Pie likes negative utility roles though.
    
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@whiteflame
            
          
      Revnov was raised during a time of hardship and war. Revnov trusted Dragovich, Kravchenko and Steiner (my PM name drops Steiner FWIW). However they betrayed me and threw me in prison. This did not break my spirits because I later became a leader in prison. Encouraging men with nothing left, and meeting Mason, I staged an uprising. While fighting through the prison, I was killed, but I live on in Mason's mind. My hate and lust for revenge for those that betrayed me live on in Mason's mind and he fought Drago, Kravchenko and Steiner for me.
    
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  I asked Pie if my role can be affected by a redirector and he said yes.
    
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@whiteflame
            
          
      
I'm confused on the potential effects a redirector could have on my role. I still think it is odd that there is a cop, a fancy MD and a 1x watcher/tracker, but it does make me think.
    
  
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@Mharman
            
          
      Hey man, if you want to go after Cerulean don't let me stop you lmao.
    
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@whiteflame
            
          
      I choose to target Cerulean's NP1 becayse he claimed he didn't do anything DP2 and no one else claimed to visit him. So I suspect he probably killed Wylted or is a mafia JOAT.
    
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@whiteflame
            
          
      My justification doesn't really make sense with being retroactively able to target people. Don't know what to tell you.
    
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@whiteflame
            
          
      
Pie called my role a Time Traveler but its just a MD with flavor.
    
  
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  NP1 I targeted WF NP1
NP2 I targeted Cerulean NP1.
    
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@whiteflame
            
          
      Pardon? I didn't lie. My role is motion detector, except I can also check what my target was doing on any NP of my choosing. Admittedly I wasn't clear when I fullclaimed yesterday but I did.
    
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@iamanabanana
            
          
      Thats a lie btw. Also I used my role to check what Cerulean did NP1. He was either visited or did something.
    
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@iamanabanana
            
          
      
Any results? WF, who did you visit? Banana, did you do anything last night?
    
  
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  Current Mafia:
iLikePie5 - Call of Duty: Black Ops Mafia
Sign ups:
Bullish - Jet fighters semi-open
In the Hopper:
Lunatic - Theme choice
Wylted- Lulsec
Whiteflame - Microbiology
Casey Risk - Deltarune Mafia
Earth - Tales of Symphonia/Xenogears/Skyrim Mafia
On hold
Mharman
    
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  Anyway, I don't see any reason to delay this. VTL Moozer. 
    
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  I am wondering who scum!Moozer's buddy would be, because fake claiming 1x lynch proof would be a big gamble. 
    
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@whiteflame
            
          
      Bro what changed from yesterday? You were on my dick yesterday because I wanted to test Moozer's role.
    
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@Lunatic
            
          
      I was mostly joking, I just feel like saying you are the only one defending me means absolutely nothing, like I have no idea why you said it.
    
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  You should know that it means nothing if scum defends a mislynch target, especially one that will get lynched anyway.
    
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@whiteflame
            
          
      Yup. Glad to see that such experienced players would rather bark up the wrong tree rather than pressure X themselves.
    
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@whiteflame
            
          
      You mean you don't like how I am usually? I don't like how banana is just lurking, but I haven't seen anything I dislike. And I will outright admit my plan for targeting you kinda went off the rails because I was planning on just getting information. I don't really care what your role is either.
    
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  I'm okay to check Moozer's lynchproof, but otherwise I say we should pressure within Mhar or Cerulean.
    
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@Lunatic
            
          
      Does it make less sense than Bullish or Wylted's? Because you seem to have already realise how nonsensical justifications are.
    
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