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@Stephen
Stephen,
 
I am a practicing Christian was said by aletheakatharos, not Theweakeredge.
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The Mods
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@Bringerofrain

As a private pilot, when I am making an instrument approach in zero visibility, my decision making is 100% logic and no emotion is involved at all. 



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@Theweakeredge

Yes, I'm sure Stephen knows that you are intelligent.
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Should we defund the police?
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@Bringerofrain
According to a Washington Post analysis, black Americans are disproportionately affected by police violence across the United States. The data refers specifically to police shootings and it relies primarily on news accounts, social media postings and police reports. Since January 01, 2015, 4,728 people have died in police shootings and around half, 2,385, were white. 1,252 were black, 877 were Hispanic and 214 were from other racial groups. As a share of the population, however, things are very different. Black Americans account for less than 13% of the U.S. population but the rate at which they are shot and killed by police is more than twice as high as the rate for white Americans.
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What are conservatives... for?
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@Bringerofrain

Remember that Trump's Make America Great Again came from Hitler's Make Germany Great Again. Trump's first wife ,Ivana, said that Trump
kept a copy of Hitler's speeches by his bedside.


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What (dis)qualifies a person as being an actual member of a religious group?
The award-winning author Jared Diamond once remarked that science is responsible for dramatic changes to our smug self-image. Astronomy has taught us that our planet is not the navel of the universe. We learned from biology that we were not created by God but evolved alongside millions of other species. This comment is about another seismic change in our self-image. Most people today believe that we have the bodies of beasts and the souls of angels. Science tells us otherwise. In future comments, I will take you on a tour of history, philosophy, and science to show you that the soul, like geo­centricism and creationism, is a figment of our imagination, and I will try to explain to you what gives rise to the illusion. Modern astronomy and the theory of evolution did not precipitate the end of the world. They are unmis­takable signs of progress. Likewise, I will show you that in spite of repeated claims to the contrary, we lose nothing by letting go of our soul beliefs and—better—that we even have something to gain. It is this empowering conclusion that I want to leave you with.
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In sharp contrast to popular opinion, the current scientific consensus rejects any notion of soul or spirit as separate from the activity of the brain. This is what Francis Crick, codiscoverer of the structure of DNA, called “The Astonishing Hypothesis.” In Crick’s words, “You, your joys and your sorrows, your memories and your ambitions, your sense of personal iden­tity and free will, are in fact no more than the behavior of a vast assembly of nerve cells and their associated molecules.” Reflecting on what he calls the scientific image of persons, the philosopher Owen Flanagan stressed that we “need to demythologize persons by rooting out certain unfounded ideas from the perennial philosophy. Letting go of the belief in souls is a minimal requirement. In fact, desouling is the primary operation of the scientific image.” The weight of the scientific consensus is distributed over many dis­ciplines and includes, as we would expect, the sciences of the mind (psy­chology, neuroscience, cognitive science).


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@EtrnlVw
The low intellect genetic debris mind of  EtrnlVW, can't rationalize that there is no soul. This is proven by the fact that a human has to learn a language to think.
If there really was a soul, everyone would know the same language. When your brain dies, you die.
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Is PE fair on schoolkids who hit puberty later?
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@fauxlaw
Participation trophies are for people who cannot find that in which they excel. Who's fault is that?
Isn't it God's fault for not knowing anything about quality control?  But I see what you are saying, in gym class, a kid on steroids should get an A and a kid in a wheel chair
should get an F.


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Should we defund the police?
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@Bringerofrain
Yes, if the person wasn't black he would not be shot.
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School systems should include LBTQ+ topics in their history and sex education
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@Theweakeredge

Yes


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@Theweakeredge

What specific use of force rule is wrong? Right now they can shoot if they reasonably believe the person is black and holding a cell phone. What is incorrect about that?



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You all should read the book by Joseph Atwell , Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus
Was Jesus the invention of a Roman emperor? The author of this ground-breaking book believes he was. "Caesar’s Messiah" reveals the key to a new and revolutionary understanding of the origin of Christianity, explaining what is the New Testament, who is the real Jesus, and how Christ's second coming already occurred. The clues leading to these startling conclusions are found in the writings of the first-century historian Flavius Josephus, whose "Wars of the Jews" is one of the only historical chronicles of this period. Closely comparing the work of Josephus with the New Testament Gospels, "Caesar’s Messiah" demonstrates that the Romans directed the writing of both. Their purpose: to offer a vision of a “peaceful Messiah” who would serve as an alternative to the revolutionary leaders who were rocking first-century Israel and threatening Rome. Similarly, "Caesar’s Messiah" will rock our understanding of Christian history as it reveals that Jesus was a fictional character portrayed in four Gospels written not by Christians but Romans. 


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Of course morality is subjective.
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@Dr.Franklin
God is the context of morality, he provides it
Within a few weeks the Israelites were starving, so Moses appealed to God, who promised: "I will rain down bread from Heaven for you", [Exodus 16] and delivered the mysterious, but nutritious, manna which was "white like coriander seed and tasted like a wafer made with honey"

So now approximately 3.1 million children die from undernutrition each year (UNICEF, 2018a). Hunger and undernutrition contribute to more than half of global child deaths, as undernutrition can make children more vulnerable to illness and exacerbate disease. What does God do? Nothing, so God is amoral or as Nietzsche said, God is dead.
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There is no seven colored rainbow
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@drafterman
rainbow is caused by sunlight and atmospheric conditions. Light enters a water droplet, slowing down and bending as it goes from air to denser water. The light reflects off the inside of the droplet, separating into its component wavelengths--or colors. When light exits the droplet, it makes a rainbow.
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@Polytheist-Witch
At Justus Liebig University Giessen in Germany, psychologist Roland Fleming studies how we see objects around us.
“The only reason Newton came up with ‘indigo’ is because for occult reasons he believed there must be seven basic colours that come together to make white. It certainly has little to do with physics and a lot more to do with the relationship between perception and language,” Fleming said.
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A one world nation would solve many economically complex issues.
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@Theweakeredge
This will happen, but it won't be for about 200 years from now. There only way this would work is if AI controls the government.
First, China has to be the leading economic power which it will be in about 5 years once it has perfected fusion power.
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What is the agenda God has behind creating us?
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@RationalMadman
I believe that he likes to go to Strip Clubs.  Remember, Man was made in his image.
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DART 2021 Feb Political Compass standings
My score was:

Economic:  -4.38
Social:          -2.82



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What can humans claim to have created or invented? Nothing.
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@Theweakeredge

Now do you believe my theory on brain lesions?


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Why Are There 300 Sextillion Stars?
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@EtrnlVw

I think you are right. I just asked God that if he was real to give me a sign. Then I just heard on TV that Rush Limbaugh died.
There Is A God!


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Strong AI Cannot Exist
The end goal of all such projects is the same: To apply the principles of the human brain to computing, so that machines can work faster, use less power, and develop the ability to learn. Diesmann hopes that with the advent of exascale computing—processing power 1,000 times greater than currently exists—within the next decade, we might be able to better understand how the brain works. IBM is hoping that its new form of chip will help it to “build a neurosynaptic chip system with 10 billion neurons and 100 trillion synapses, all while consuming only one kilowatt of power and occupying less than two liters of volume.” But a fully working simulation of the brain, Diesmann thinks, is still a decade or two away.


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@The_Meliorist
German scientists, led by Dr Markus Diesmann, a computational neurophysicist, are part of the Human Brain project, which along with graphene this year won the largest research award in history:  ($1.3 billion).

The trouble is that at the moment, no computer is powerful enough to run a program simulating the brain. One reason is the brain’s interconnected nature. In computing terms, the brain’s nerve cells, called neurons, are the processors, while synapses, the junctions where neurons meet and transmit information to each other, are analogous to memory. Our brains contain roughly 100 billion neurons; a powerful commercial chip holds billions of transistors. Yet a typical transistor has just three legs, or connections, while a neuron can have up to 10,000 points of connection, and a brain has some 100 trillion synapses. ”There’s no chip technology which can represent this enormous amount of wires,” says Diesmann.

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Our most basic axioms
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@Tarik
 If your correct in your lack of belief in a higher power then there’s no morality or anything remotely close to it
I pray you find Humanism.
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Religion is usually a coping mechanism regarding death.
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@fauxlaw

Death is required for one reason and that is evolution.


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@Tarik
 two negatives always equals a positive
We can all think of many, many cases where two negatives don’t make a positive. Rain on your wedding day plus grand larceny on your wedding day does not make for a winning combination, despite what “two negatives make a positive” would suggest. I can see why you believe in God.


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@Tarik

You can’t prove a negative (one of the many rules of logic) and nihilism is a negative.

A principle of folk logic is that one can't prove a negative.
But there is one big, fat problem with all this. Among profes- 
sional logicians, guess how many think that you can't prove 
a negative? That's right: zero. Yes, Virginia, you can prove a
negative, and it's easy, too. For one thing, a real, actual law
of logic is a negative, namely the law of non-contradiction.
This law states that that a proposition cannot be both true
and not true. Nothing is both true and false. Furthermore,
you can prove this law. It can be formally derived from the
empty set using provably valid rules of inference.
Any claim can be expressed as a negative,
thanks to the rule of double negation. This rule states that any
proposition P is logically equivalent to not-not-P. So pick anything
you think you can prove. Think you can prove your own
existence? At least to your own satisfaction? Then, using the
exact same reasoning, plus the little step of double negation,
you can prove that you aren't nonexistent. Congratulations,
you've just proven a negative. The beautiful part is that you
can do this trick with absolutely any proposition whatsoever.
Prove P is true and you can prove that P is not false.















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What do you think you elected? Can-do Biden? Nope.
Dwight D. Eisenhower is often quoted from his February 17, 1953 News Conference in which he said,
The fact is there must be balanced budgets before we are again on a safe and sound system in our economy. That means, to my mind, that we cannot afford to reduce taxes, reduce income, until we have in sight a program of expenditures that shows that the factors of income and of outgo will be balanced. Now that is just to my mind sheer necessity.

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My "dreams"
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@zedvictor4
We are our own faults and our faults alone.....And only we can correct them...
Well stated, there are plenty of self-help books available to point you in the right direction.


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@Discipulus_Didicit

Well stated.
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@janesix
You don't know that there is no other human life.

You aren't Dr. Rick  from Progressive Insurance are you?
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@oromagi

I base my figures on the fact  the simplest theorized self-replicating peptide is only 32 amino acids long. The probability of it forming randomly, in sequential trials, is approximately 1 in 10^40.



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@janesix
 where I just kept seeing weird white angular shapes
OMG, you need to talk to ebuc.


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The double slit experiment
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@secularmerlin

To date, no quantum mechanical or other explanation has gained widespread acceptance in the scientific community. We are dealing with a time travel paradox that illustrates reverse causality (i.e., effect precedes cause), where the effect of measuring a photon affects its past behavior. This simple high-school-level experiment continues to baffle modern science. Although quantum physicists explain it as wavefunction collapse, the explanation tends not to satisfy many in the scientific community. Irrefutably, the delayed-choice experiments suggest the arrow of time is reversible and the future can influence the past.


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@Sum1hugme
Humans couldn’t evolve until fish evolved bones that let them crawl onto land. Bones couldn’t evolve until complex animals appeared. Complex animals needed complex cells, and complex cells needed oxygen, made by photosynthesis. None of this happens without the evolution of life, a singular event among singular events. All organisms come from a single ancestor; as far as we can tell, life only happened once.
Curiously, all this takes a surprisingly long time. Photosynthesis evolved 1.5 billion years after the Earth’s formation, complex cells after 2.7 billion years, complex animals after 4 billion years, and human intelligence 4.5 billion years after the Earth formed. That these innovations are so useful but took so long to evolve implies that they’re exceedingly improbable.
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Religion is usually a coping mechanism regarding death.

Maybe this simulation was developed by 10,000 technicians that sell tickets to ride in the minds of rich stupid people like Donald Trump and Jeffery Epstein.


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Why Are There 300 Sextillion Stars?
Why are there 300 sextillion stars. Was it design or chance that one planet of these stars would evolve life?
I say it was chance, and because of that there is no other human life in the Universe other than that on Earth.


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Man's own unwillingness to see the proof of Gods existence
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@janesix
The first part of the book addresses the relationship between God and the universe. Spinoza was engaging with a Tradition that held: God exists outside of the universe; God created the universe for a reason; and God could have created a different universe according to his will. Spinoza denies each point. According to Spinoza, God is the natural world. Spinoza concludes the following: God is the substance comprising the universe, with God existing in itself, not somehow outside of the universe; and the universe exists as it does from necessity, not because of a divine theological reason or will.
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@Stephen

Let's face it: the Old Testament God was a deity who really needed to rip the amphetamine drip out of his celestial arm. Although the New Testament gave us a kinder, gentler God with a bellyful of butterflies who only wants humanity to surround him in one big group hug, the Old Testament God comes across as a guy who'd sooner kill you than look at you. In his capacity for inflicting cataclysmic acts of murderous violence upon the soft, helpless animals in his charge, the Old Testament God is best compared to a pre-pubescent psychopath with an ant farm.


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The great atheist deception
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@3RU7AL

Tou·ché


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Right or Wrong Choice?
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@Stephen

Remember that  the Bible is a collection of venerable but still rather primitive legends.


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@secularmerlin

I can't figure out if you are a  Substantivalist or a Relationalist.
Substantivalists believe that spacetime and its parts are fundamental constituents of reality. Relationalists deny this.


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@ebuc
ebuc, I would say that you are a Relationalist and that zedvictor4, 3RU7AL and myself are Substantivalists.  Substantivalists believe that spacetime and its parts are fundamental constituents of reality. Relationalists deny this, claiming that spacetime enjoys only a derivative existence.
Please read, Pooley, Oliver (2012) Substantivalist and Relationalist Approaches to Spacetime.

He states: I move on to consider and reject two recent antisubstantivalist lines of thought. The interim conclusion is that the best argument for relationalism is an appeal to Ockham's razor. However, for this to be successful there must be genuine relationalist theories that share the theoretical virtues of their substantivalist rivals but without the additional ontological commitment. The bulk of the paper is therefore an investigation of various concrete relationalist proposals. I distinguish three options for the relationalist in the face of the success of Galilean invariant physics and trace how these generalise to relativistic physics. One of the options (Barbour's Machian approach to dynamics) is particularly promising but, since its basic objects end up being spacetime points, this does not help the prospects of relationalism as traditionally conceived. I end with some reflections on the fate of substantivalism in the aftermath of the Hole Argument, concluding that we have as yet to be given good reasons to abandon the natural, substantivalist interpretation of current physics.


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@janesix

Go stand in front of a tornado and see if it is non-physical.


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Atoms are proof of no God.  Atoms cannot be influenced by anything non-physical.




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@ronjs

Let's see what the smartest Jew  to ever live has to say. “The word 'God' is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation, no matter how subtle, can (for me) change this.”- Albert Einstein 1954


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My Brothers Are?
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@RationalMadman

I am one of the 275,000 lifetime members.
Pi Kappa Alpha is composed of more than 275,000 lifetime members, 220 chapters and 150 alumni associations in North America.


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@RationalMadman

I told you that I am a Pike.
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God’s Own Unwillingness to Show “proof” of His Existence.

God spoke to me when I was 12. He said that he was killing my 7 year old cousin with leukemia and there was nothing I could do about it.


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@RationalMadman

Yes, he is my brother too.  Are you my brother?


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