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TRUMP MUST GO TODAY

But Putin loves him. Trump will probably move to Moscow and live in the new Trump Tower that is being built there.
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Morality - Is Atheism More Reasonable than Theism?
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@PGA2.0

I'm guessing you believe that men have one fewer rib than women.
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Morality - Is Atheism More Reasonable than Theism?
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@PGA2.0

“The word 'God' is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation, no matter how subtle, can (for me) change this.” -Albert Einstein 1954
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Does the Bible Really Support Slavery?

Many Scriptures and books of the Bible (e.g. Philemon) were used as pro-slavery propaganda
in justifying the enslavement of African people.
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Antitheist AMA
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@Tarik
Didn't God let his only son be killed?
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@Tarik

 Your reasoning seems to be something like this:

1. Without God the morality of human beings simply evolved by natural processes.

2. Any moral code that evolves by natural processes cannot be objective.

3. Therefore, a non-theistic morality cannot be objective.

The argument is deductively valid but nevertheless unsound. It is unsound
because premise (2) is false. Premise (2) is false because it assumes that if morality
is something that is only conceived by human beings, then since human beings
conceive it, it cannot be true independently of our beliefs. But a human origin for
morality does not negate its truth as something independent of the beliefs of any
person or group.
One example of a universal moral truth that is logically necessary and true
independently of anyone’s belief is the statement “murder is morally wrong.” The
term “murder” means “to kill unlawfully and with malice” or “the unlawful and
malicious killing of a human being by another.” It is universally and necessarily true
that “murder is wrongful killing,” whether anyone believes it or not and whether
or not there is a God.

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@Tarik
But whose to say what is and isn’t positive who’s the ultimate judge of that?
Mankind
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Georgia Senate Election Runoff thing
Both Georgia Senate seats have gone to the Democrats. Praise the Lord, that was God's plan, right?
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Antitheist AMA
Believing there is no God means the suffering I've seen in my family, and indeed all the suffering in the world, isn't caused by an omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent force that isn't bothered to help or is just testing us, but rather something we all may be able to help others with in the future. No God means the possibility of less suffering in the future.
-Penn Jillette 2005
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Materialism Vs Theism
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@SkepticalOne
The story of Job from the Hebrew Bible explores another challenge to the meaning of life. Job was not obsessed with death like Gilgamesh, discouraged by futility like Sisyphus, or overwhelmed with insignificance like Boethius. In fact, at the outset of the story he’s happy. Job is a wealthy and morally decent herdsman with a loving family, and he owns a large stock of sheep, oxen, camels, and donkeys. Then everything changes for the worse. His animals are stolen, his servants are burnt to death by fire from the sky and, worst of all, his children are killed in a tornado. Job himself is infected with itchy skin boils, which he scratches with a broken piece of pottery. In a display of sorrow, he rips his clothes and shaves his head. Three friends stop by for a visit and at first do not even recognize Job because he is so disfigured from his illness. For a week they sit next to him without speaking, then, breaking the silence, Job says “I wish I was born dead!” He cannot understand why God would do this to him, and he accuses God of being his tormenter. His friends try to explain God’s role in his misfortunes. One friend argues that people suffer when they forget God and, so, Job must have abandoned God at some point in his life. Another argues that people suffer when they commit some moral offense, and no one can fully know all the things that God finds evil. So, in spite of Job’s protests of being morally blameless, he nevertheless must have committed some offense that is not immediately apparent. Job insists, though, that he did nothing wrong. Finally, God himself appears in a thunderstorm and sets the record straight: God is infinitely great, Job is virtually insignificant and, so, Job has no right to complain.
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GOP Sickness
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@Danielle
Well stated.
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Faith also applies to atheism
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@Benjamin
From the American Atheists website:
Atheism is not an affirmative belief that there is no god nor does it answer any other question about what a person believes. It is simply a rejection of the assertion that there are gods. Atheism is too often defined incorrectly as a belief system. To be clear: Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods.
Older dictionaries define atheism as “a belief that there is no God.” Clearly, theistic influence taints these definitions. The fact that dictionaries define Atheism as “there is no God” betrays the (mono)theistic influence. Without the (mono)theistic influence, the definition would at least read “there are no gods.”
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Should Gay people be privileged?
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@Benjamin
Did you know that 68 years ago God impregnated a virgin to have his second son. His name was Jeffery Epstein. He too was never married and had no kids.
God killed him too. You can read this in a new book coming out called the Newer Testament. See how myths are started?
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Materialism Vs Theism
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@EtrnlVw
Read University of Chicago evolutionary biologist Jerry Coyne's book, Faith Vs. Fact: Why Science and Religion Are Incompatible, in which he argued that the scientific outlook — with features such as weighing publicly available evidence, testing one’s theories against nature and revising them in the light of contrary data — is really only compatible with atheism.
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Young-Earth Creationism is an Embarrassment - according to a Christian Philosopher
God can be explained by the following fact. Most people (about 68 percent) have an IQ between 85 and 115. Only a small fraction of people have a very low IQ (below 70) or a very high IQ (above 130). The average IQ in the United States is 98.
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Where is the center of the universe?
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@zedvictor4
The background is the Universe. The Cosmic Microwave Background, or CMB, is radiation that fills the universe and can be detected in every direction.
It is detected by microwave space telescopes.
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Concerning the validity of I.Q.
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@zedvictor4
Is the seventh Uranus?
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What's your best argument for God's existence?
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@EtrnlVw
Without the existence of God you must account for the processes of our universe and why they occur like the birth of  babies without arms and legs.
Doesn't God know anything about quality control?
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Only truth and logic exists
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@drafterman
 Yes, the time of decay of an individual nucleus is unpredictable. The lifetime of a radioactive substance is not affected in any way by any physical or chemical conditions to which the substance may be subjected.
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Lay Up Not Treasure In This world.
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@Stephen
I don't know, Pastor Kenneth Copeland is worth $760 million and God killed his only son who was poor. I think
God likes wealthy stupid people. He made Trump President, didn't he?
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Materialism Vs Theism
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@EtrnlVw
Before the world your soul was with God
What language did the soul speak with God before it learned a language in a human brain?
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Materialism Vs Theism
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@EtrnlVw
Yes, the Creator was Bumba.  According to the Boshongo people of central Africa, in the beginning, there was only darkness, water, and the great god Bumba. One day Bumba, in pain from a stomach ache, vomited up the sun. The sun dried up some of the water, leaving land. Still in pain, Bumba vomited up the moon, the stars, and then some animals. The leopard, the crocodile, the turtle, and finally, man.
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Where is the center of the universe?
You might be tempted to say that the location of the Big Bang is the center of the universe. But because space itself was created by the Big Bang, the location of the Big Bang was everywhere in the universe and not at a single point. The major aftereffect of the Big Bang was a flash of light known as the Cosmic Background Radiation. If the Big Bang happened at one location in space, we would only see this flash of light coming from one spot in the sky (we can see a flash that happened so long ago because light takes time to travel through space and the universal scale is so big). Instead, we see the flash as coming equally from all points in space. Furthermore, once the motion of the earth is accounted for, the flash of light is equally strong in all directions on average. This indicates that there is no center of expansion.
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Lay Up Not Treasure In This world.
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@Stephen
Zoroaster was born of a virgin and “immaculate conception by a ray of divine reason.” He was baptized in a river. In his youth he astounded wise men with his wisdom. He was tempted in the wilderness by the devil. He began his ministry at age 30. Zoroaster baptized with water, fire and “holy wind.” He cast out demons and restored the sight to a blind man.

Attis was born on December 25 of the Virgin Nana. He was considered the savior who was slain for the salvation of mankind. His body as bread was eaten by his worshippers. He was both the Divine Son and the Father. On “Black Friday,” he was crucified on a tree, from which his holy blood ran down to redeem the earth. He descended into the underworld. After three days, Attis was resurrected.

See a pattern here?
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The Occult
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@Tradesecret
Well, didn't God let his only son be crucified so he could make his point ?
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CONTEXT!!!!!
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@ronjs
Humans are one type of several living species of great apes. Humans evolved alongside orangutans, chimpanzees, bonobos, and gorillas. All of these share a common ancestor before about 7 million years ago.
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CONTEXT!!!!!
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@Wagyu
Einstein read the Bible from cover to cover and he said, : “The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive, legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.” FYI, the letter he said that in sold for $3 million.
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Add Satanism as a religion.
Have you seen Satan on that Match.com ad?
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Does the Bible Really Support Slavery?
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@Jarrett_Ludolph
"If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing."  Exodus 21:2
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The Occult
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@Tradesecret
 “Religion is the general theory of this world, its encyclopedic compendium, its logic in popular form, its spiritual point d’honneur, its enthusiasm, its moral sanction, its solemn complement, and its universal basis of consolation and justification. It is the fantastic realization of the human essence since the human essence has not acquired any true reality. The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly the struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion. Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness.” -Karl Marx
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What's your best argument for God's existence?
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@Tarik
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He states: Here I will lay out my position for a philosophical basis of morality and explain why I think objective morality is not only unworkable, it’s a fiction.
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The Anthropic Objection to the Teleological Argument
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@TheMorningsStar
The cosmological and teleological arguments are two types of arguments for the existence of God. They are different from other types in that they are about the entire universe; the cosmological argument seeks to find a causal explanation of why some universe exists, and the teleological argument seeks to find an explanation of the designed or apparently designed nature of the universe. In this way they differ from the ontological and conceptual arguments, which are a priori, and from the arguments from mystical experience, moral conscience, and human consciousness. The cosmological and teleological arguments are about the empirical facts of the universe, the mystical, moral, and consciousness arguments are about empirical facts concerning humans, and the ontological and conceptualist arguments endeavor to deduce God's existence from a priori concepts alone, without needing any observational evidence about the universe.
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The Anthropic Objection to the Teleological Argument
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@TheMorningsStar
The Kalam cosmology argument is a Teleological Argument and Manuel Berger's response is an Anthropic Objection.
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The Anthropic Objection to the Teleological Argument
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@TheMorningsStar
Why does William Lane Craig always win on the point of the Kalam cosmology argument if the argument is so weak according to atheists?

An answer provided by Manuel Berger, Master Physics, Free University of Brussels, is :

I have never seen him win a debate, but he can dazzle gullible people. His tactic is to talk a lot, adding in a lot of irrelevant data, over-complexing everything, so that the logical fallacies somehow escape your attention.
Once you see the transcript of what he said, you can start scrapping everything that was irrelevant to his point and only clear logical fallacies remain.
The Kalam Cosmology Argument is build for gullible people. Every sentence here contains a logical fallacy and it builds on the ignorance of the audience.
People on this forum have already pointed out why each sentence is a joke on a pure logical level, but on top of that he takes a lot of liberty with physical concepts
  • When you say everything begins to exist or is created, you must realize that within our universe, on a physical level, things just get re-arranged. When you create a sculpture, you rearrange the basic material.
  • Causes are not entities: the cause of stars forming is gravity, not a creator.
  • When he talks about “everything that … ”, you have to realize that everything in the universe and the universe are 2 entirely different concepts.
  • When he says “The universe began to exist”, he is stating a hypothesis that is part of popular science news, but there is no consensus about that among phycisists
He does not use specific terms that would get shot immediately, he just makes the fuzzy errors that sound fine for people that do not care about physics.
If you make a more detailed story, you would lose the audience:
(disclaimer: just a scenario, prove it to be wrong)
  1. An uncaused piece of empty space-time existed.
  2. A Higgs field has to form immediately (we know that).
  3. The Higgs field cause the piece of space to inflate (we know that too)
  4. Because of conservation of energy, during inflation, the negative expansion energy has to be balanced by the formation of energy within this space, mainly particles. (basic application of energy conservation)
  5. These particles will clutter because of gravity and form stars.
  6. … the next steps are well observed by science.

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@Tarik
Morality is proof of God’s existence because that is what He represents, morality.
LOL
1 Samuel15:3  Now, go and attack Amalek. Completely destroy all that they have. Don’t spare them, but put to death both man and woman, child and infant, both ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’”
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@RoderickSpode
The object that moved around the board spelling out names and ages actually lifted off of the board at one moment, which is impossible since our fingers were barely touching the object.
It's called static electricity.  Research has shown that as a word or answer began to form, the eye movements increased, indicating that participants brains were calculating and predicting potential answers and sending their eyes to potential next letters, thus subconsciously guiding their hands to glide the planchettes to them. The pair on the planchette subconsciously take turns taking control as their brains feel more confident tin their choices.
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The only true God is Aphrodite. Aphrodite was the goddess of love, sex, and beauty. Unsurprisingly for a love goddess, she was said to have emerged from the foam generated when the severed testicles of her father, Uranus, were thrown into the sea by his son, the Titan Cronus.
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Sacred Geometry of the Sun and Sirius A
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@janesix
1.73 is the square root of 3.
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What's your best argument for God's existence?
Is it a miracle when a healthy baby get pediatric cancer?
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The Kalam Cosmological Argument
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@Mopac
The fact that you are having an experience at all is proof that there is some form of reality. If there is some form of reality, reality as it truly is must exist. The Ultimate Reality is reality as it truly is. That is what we call God.

And that is why if you deny God, you are delusional.
Is that from the movie, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest?
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I Didn’t Ask Anyone To Die For Me.
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@ethang5
Well, it does explain the Resurrection.
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I Didn’t Ask Anyone To Die For Me.
The story of Jesus Christ is perhaps the most well-known across the globe – but more than 2,000 years later, experts still seem to be finding out more information. One of the latest discoveries is that Jesus had a twin brother – also known as the apostle Thomas – and that it was actually Thomas who was seen after the supposed resurrection, and not Christ. Thomas, who was one of Christ’s original 12 followers, was given the full name Didymos Judas Thomas, something which has led certain sectors of Christianity to believe he was the twin of the Messiah, because his name literally has the word twin in it twice.
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@Mopac
John 13:23  Now there was leaning on Jesus’ bosom one of His disciples, whom Jesus loved. (New King James Version)

Does that mean Jesus was gay?
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Could There Really be a Multiverse?
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@Jarrett_Ludolph
Yes, there are probably plenty of other 3D movies.
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Sam Harris and Free Will
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@zedvictor4
It is a simulation because everything is composed of one dimensional strings and because of Superdeterminism we are virtually in a 3d movie.
Why, I don't know.
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Sam Harris and Free Will
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@Wagyu
Yes, spooky action at a distance proves your point. Physicist John Bell in 1980 stated; There is a way to escape the inference of superluminal speeds and spooky action at a distance. But it involves absolute determinism in the universe, the complete absence of free will. Suppose the world is super-deterministic, with not just inanimate nature running on behind-the-scenes clockwork, but with our behavior, including our belief that we are free to choose to do one experiment rather than another, absolutely predetermined, including the "decision" by the experimenter to carry out one set of measurements rather than another, the difficulty disappears. There is no need for a faster than light signal to tell particle A what measurement has been carried out on particle B, because the universe, including particle A, already "knows" what that measurement, and its outcome, will be.
Quantum Entanglement shows that this universe is a simulation.
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@Sum1hugme
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@Mopac
Richard Carrier has argued that the universe itself seems to be very ill-designed for life, because the vast majority of the space in the universe is utterly hostile to it. This is arguably unexpected on the hypothesis that the universe was designed by a god, especially a personal god. Carrier contends that such a god could have easily created a geocentric universe ex nihilo in the recent past, in which most of the volume of the universe is inhabitable by humans and other lifeforms— precisely the kind of universe that most humans believed in until the rise of modern science. While a personal god might have created the kind of universe we observe, Carrier contends that this is not the kind of universe we would most likely expect to see if such a god existed. He finally argues that, unlike theism, our observations about the nature of the universe are strongly expected on the hypothesis of atheism, since the universe would have to be vast, very old, and almost completely devoid of life if life were to have arisen by sheer chance.
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The atheist realty sucks
God really sucks.

CNN political reporter Andrew Kaczynski and wife and Wall Street Journal banking reporter Rachel Louise Ensign are mourning the loss of their 9-month-old daughter Francesca, who died on Christmas Eve after a cancer battle.

Thanks God she wasn't aborted, God had a plan for her.


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Dementia in heaven.
After more research, I don't think inflammatory responses will be a problem. The problem will be as Michal Linial, a professor of biological chemistry at the Hebrew University says.

Linial explained that “mRNA is a very fragile molecule, meaning it can be destroyed very easily... If you put mRNA on the table, for example, in a minute there will not be any mRNA leftover. This is as opposed to DNA, which is as stable as you get.”

She said that this fragility is true of the mRNA of any living thing, whether it belongs to a plant, bacteria, virus or human.

As such, she said the worry should not be that the mRNA won’t get into the cells and instead will stay outside, floating in the body and causing some kind of reaction. Rather the concern should be that if it doesn’t enter the cells, it will disintegrate and therefore be ineffective.

She said that while Moderna and Pfizer are based on new vaccine technologies, they are asking our bodies to do something they do every day: protein synthesis, the process where cells make proteins.

Moderna and Pfizer are simply delivering a specific mRNA sequence to our cells. Once the mRNA is in the cell, human biology takes over. Ribosomes read the code and build the protein, and the cells express the protein in the body.

Linial said she believes that the reason no mRNA vaccine has been developed yet is because there was just no need to move this fast on a vaccine until COVID-19 came along. She noted that most of the vaccines people take today were developed decades ago.

She said her concerns have less to do with the use of mRNA and more to do with the long-term efficacy of the vaccine, as well as other challenges that could cause something to go wrong and lead people to believe they are vaccinated when they are not.

For example, she said that because mRNA is so fragile, the Pfizer vaccine must be stored at negative 70 degrees Celsius. If the ideal environment is not maintained, the vaccine could “spoil” and become ineffective.

In addition, she said several questions remain, such as whether these vaccines will really be able to mount a sufficiently protective immune response and how long that immunity would last.

“It would be the worst [scenario] if people behave like they are immune but can still become infected,” Linial said.

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