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@janesix
@Mopac
Thank you, I don't need your advice.
As you can see Jane, Mopac describes himself perfectly in post #462...

All you have to do is look at the behavioral patterns ... and it ahould be apparent that productive dialog, reconciliation, and reason are the furthest things from their minds.

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@Mopac
There is no doubt in my mind
You have a mind? Where? Why isn't it working? Perhaps, the switch never got turned on?

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I suspect you have never been in the position of changing your worldview
You mean from deluded to not deluded? No, I haven't required that change. I don't accept or hold delusions, my worldview is the result of what reality shows me, that which is consistent to everyone else on the planet. I don't make additions of invisible super friends to reality like some of the children here.



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I'm positive they believe you are deluded.
Just as we are positive you are deluded.

I know God exists
That is one of many delusions you hold.
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No, it requires an emotional adjustment, not just thinking. Feelings seem to have little importance to you.
What do feelings have to do with accepting reality? Makes no sense. Feelings play an important role for humans, but not when humans let their feelings get in the way of being sane or not.

You seem to have very little charity towards your fellow human beings. 
Why should I have charity for those who lie, who wish to deceive and make a mockery of us, who want to bring us all down to their level of insanity?

They are the ones who have no charity for their fellow human beings.
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And unfortunately, Mopac has no choice but to lie, he loves to lie, he will not tell the truth.

Jesus will deal with liars in good time. Are you ready for a hot date with Satan, Mo? He loves liars. You two will get along famously.
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Do you remember this quote from the original Terminator movie, Jane?

"Listen, and understand! That Terminator is out there! It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear! And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead!"

It applies to Mopac with just a few changes.

Listen, and understand! Mopac is out there! He can't be bargained with. He can't be reasoned with. He doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear! And he absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are insane!


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@janesix
Denial of God is certainly a delusional position.
As we can see, Jane, Mopac has no desire to think and be a sane person. He would much rather remain a child and pander to his childhood fantasies while raging at the adults.

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@janesix
Changing a worldview simply requires one to think. If emotions get in the way, then people need to grow up and be adults.

What's so tough about that?
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@Plisken
No need to apologize to Mopac, he didn't create this thread to start a discussion or find out others thoughts, he did it for one reason, to repeat the same mantra he's been repeating since he got here. He should be apologizing to everyone else.
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@janesix
It is a hard thing to "un"indoctrinate yourself
No, it's not hard, it's easy. All one has to do is start thinking.

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@janesix
Nearly everyone has been indoctrinated as a child to some belief. For some, it was materialism.
For many, it was Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny.

And, then they grew up... well.... most of them grew up. Some have yet to do so.

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@janesix
Some are indoctrinated into materialism. 
It's stunning when theists say those who don't support myths and superstitions are indoctrinated.

Reality is an indoctrination. Lol.

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@Plisken
So, then everyone here who doesn't give out their real names are all jerks.

Fucking brilliant. This forum surely has intellectual geniuses.
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Are you that stupid, ET, to not know the difference between telling someone their userid on a public forum and telling them your real name. Get a brain, dude.
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why should we take the story of noah as literal?
And I am not talking about a god. I'm talking about God. There is a difference. These gods are mythical.
It truly is stunning to see just how dumb some folks are trying to use that argument.

It's like walking into a shopping mall and asking which one is the real Santa Claus.

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@Plisken
Are you here to be a jerk?
Jerks hide themselves.

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@Plisken
These are your words, that you chose for your own reasons, and yours alone
Sure pal, whatever you say.
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@Fallaneze
It's hilarious how Theists tell us how reality is not real but they're magical invisible friends are real.
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just trying to make sense of the term for you.

Lol. Adding the term "Ultimate" to the term "Reality" makes as much sense as painting flames on the side of your car to make it go faster.
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@BrutalTruth
it doesn't necessarily discourage me from shutting down his arguments
If you continue to shut down his arguments, he will run crying to the mod team that you're harassing and stalking him. Has he talked about his time spent on other planets in other galaxies talking with the Overlords that reside there? That should get you laughing.

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Are you an automated machine or do you actually have a normal, thought out objective here? you seem fixated on a certain formation of paragraphs, words and phrases and never do you sway from it. It's quite disturbing actually.
You just described yourself.

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@Mopac
What is your religion Goldtop? 
Zoroastrian. Which is far older than your religion. That means I win, right?  (-:

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@Plisken
Wow, talk about being paranoid. Dude, you don't have to tell anyone anything, it's your prerogative to hide whatever it is you're hiding. Most likely, it's due to who you were over on ddo and how much humiliation you would endure here by revealing that.
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you're not only delusional, but an utter idiot as well.

Talking to you is like talking to a child who believes in Santa Clause

Keep insisting that a claim is evidence and I'll keep calling you an idiot.

You don't seem to grasp what evidence and proof is at all. It leads me to question your presence here on a debate  website
Unfortunately, that's the intellectual best you'll get from ET, and as you can see from his response, he's incapable of rising above it.
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@Plisken
Yeah, sure.
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@Plisken
Are you serious? You're actually afraid to tell me what your userid was on ddo? Lol. You really must be hiding something.


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@Plisken
This has nothing to do with privacy, it was a question asking what your userid was on ddo?
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Colors do not exist out there
Like for example, questioning why theists constantly cherry pick real life scenarios and then conflate them with their myths and superstitions?
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@Plisken
Who were you on ddo?
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@Fallaneze
Matt Dillahunty, host of "The Atheist Experience", said that the fine-tunedness of the universe was evidence of God but was not "sufficient" evidence of God.

  Beer is evidence of God, but not "sufficient" evidence of God.

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he's not here for anything other than harassing Theists
You need to stop making false accusations about me, immediately. Do I make myself sparkling crystal clear?

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Mr. Goldtop has become the worlds finest atheist preacher
After descending to the planet Batshit Watusi, EtrnlVw makes his way to the metropolis Bozocity to meet with the Head Overlords about getting more nuts and fruit in their diets. Later they discussed their experiences of a dream they shared about a far away fantasy land called Earth.

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@IlDiavolo
I see the Goldtop of here is the same stupid guy that I used to endure on DDO
Still waiting on the refutation of Evolution you kept on about for so long, that is, until you had to leave ddo for having to endure the humiliation of making that claim. It's no wonder you're here under a new account. Hilarious.

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@IlDiavolo
Yeah, it's me, Archaholic
LOL! And all this time you were pretending to be someone new, "Mr. Devil". Ha! What a twit.

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@Mopac
I'm not here to love anyone and neither are you so you can cut the crap.


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@Mopac
The sexual abuse of children is obviously not accepted in The Orthodox Church. And I don't know any pedophile priests. This is not an issue in The Orthodox Church.
Correction, you are currently unaware who is and who is not a pedophile in your Church. You could just read the headlines when they get caught.

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@IlDiavolo
It's because you have serious problems with reading comprehension
Project much?

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@Mopac
I am here for the sake of educating others
You have taught us much, that your beliefs are insane and dangerous to humanity, offering post after post of hard evidence to that fact, that it has destroyed your mind and is causing you to be a very bad person.

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@Mopac
I certainly don't like to argue or even debate
So, you come to forum specifically crafted for debate.

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@Mopac
Goldtop likes to project his hatred on to people like me, which I think is rather unfortunate because the only reason I am here is out of love
Yes, your love is to come here, evangelize, call us all idiots and morons and then tell us we're spawns of hell and murderers. Yeah, real Christian love.

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@IlDiavolo
Really? Let me see, you said 10% of Christians are in the US. So what? What did this piece of information show?
It showed you were wrong and incapable of thinking. Why am I having to repeat this?

Or are you trying to say that in developed countries people are not Christian?
No, I didn't say that, your reading comprehension skills are deplorable.

Let's see, almost 75% of Europeans are Christians, which is a fact. Isn't it at odds with what you have said?
While 7 out of 10 people in Europe identify as being Christian, only 2 out of 10 are practicing Christians. They care about Christianity as much as the Nones in the US.

No, it's not at odds, its your deplorable reading comprehension skills.

You're either a troll
Yes, that's exactly the kind of response expected from someone incapable of thinking and then being humiliated when they make that point time and again. Lol.
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@Mopac
I prefer to not look at people as being bad
That's an obvious lie as can be seen by the hundreds of posts in which you call us all idiots, morons and the spawns of hell.

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@Mopac
Secular rationalism quite naturally came out of protestantism, which quite naturally came out of scholasticism, which quite naturally came out of the excommunicated Roman Catholic Church.
Sure, humans evolved, going from ignorant to knowledgeable, deluded to rational, believing to understanding, etc. Some though, have decided, evidently, to remain in the dark ages.

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@IlDiavolo
This was just a change of regime, people still had the same values and beliefs though. Church lost its power, that is right, but not its influence
Lol, you'll just say anything at this point. Better quit while you're so far behind.

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@Mopac
Of course, YOU don't think pedophilia is an issue in the Church, same as the others who commit the act.
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@Mopac
Not everyone has empathy and compassion.
Certainly, none from you.

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@IlDiavolo
I didn't see any elaboration on your post. I'm sorry.
I did elaborate, showing how you were incapable of thinking when you offered nonsense instead of fact.

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@IlDiavolo
Could you elaborate, please? I mean, if you're capable of doing it. Because as much as we can see, the Western Civilization is still the most advanced culture humans have ever achieved in terms of economics, technology, politics, values, and so on.
Says the guy incapable of thinking. You do realize that only 10% of Christians live in the US, right? Most of the rest live in third world countries.

Seriously dude, try thinking for a change.

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Christians
I don't care if you respect me. You should respect God. 
Sorry, I don't respect your God.

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