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Which is entirely different from saying he extended them.
Through his inaction, that is what happened.
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@Best.Korea
I guess my number from the statistica graph stands unrefuted then.
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@Best.Korea
You do understand that costs of healthcare did not triple for individuals?
Maybe the Statistica graph is wrong then. What's your number? What was the cost in 2010?
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@Best.Korea
The OP is also something you cannot read due to a Billionaire's paywall.
Were they really compelled by force?
How do you say you don't file taxes without saying you don't file taxes?
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@Best.Korea
Enough to have 15.5% americans without health insurance.
Well thank god for the healthcare industry for all those people who would otherwise choose to not get insurance and now are compelled by the force of the Federal government to have it in order to pay the artificially inflated healthcare costs. Go healthcare lobbies!
Lobbies-1 , public-0
Who do you think wrote the Obamacare law? Oh yes. The ultra rich lobbies. No wonder the costs of healthcare tripled since 2010....
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Here is some Bezos spam that counters your argument.
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@Best.Korea
Didn't answer the question. You gave a number for 2023. I wanted to know how much it was before a government managed economy. (before 2010)
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@Best.Korea
"In 2023, the average national cost for health insurance is $456 for an individual and $1,152 for a family per month."However, without government spending trillions to cover the cost, and covering much more for poor people, the cost of healthcare for poor would increase greatly.
How much was it before government managed healthcare insurance?
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@zedvictor4
Politicians have been promising to tax the rich for as long as they have had a mouth to speak and a pen to sign. Yet nothing changes. Ever.
The real bugs are in DC.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Inciting jealousy is an age-old manipulation.
Yep, but the weak minded partisan cults just have no ability to see it.
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@Double_R
the tax cuts don't expire..
He promised to repeal them. He broke his promise.
Political rhetoric about raising taxes on the rich primarily serves as a distraction from the United States’ fiscal reality. If spending is not constrained, large and growing deficits will remain even after taxes are raised on corporations and the wealthy. The only way to significantly increase revenue is by raising taxes on a broader swath of middle‐income Americans.
Talking points like those President Biden routinely uses about the rich not paying their fair share in taxes have historically provided political cover to raise taxes on other segments of the population...
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Biden also lied to the American people when he ran for Vice President in 2008 when he repeatedly said he would not support any form of any tax that imposed even “one single penny” of tax increase on anyone making less than $250,000. Biden shattered that promise immediately upon taking office.
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@Best.Korea
As a Democrat, how does it feel to be lied to for 5 straight years about tax policy?
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@Best.Korea
Are you angry at Biden for extending Trump's 2017 tax cuts for the rich?
He has been in office 3 years and has done pretty much nothing about the Trump tax cuts for the rich except for empty promises....
Yet one surprise about the new tax law accompanying the InflationReductionAct is not yet making headlines. In passing their own version of tax reform, the Democrats left the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) completely intact, despite five years of promises to repeal it. No less than President Biden himself made a campaign promise that “on day one, I will move to eliminate Trump’s tax cuts.”
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@n8nrgim
Are you angry at Biden for extending Trump's 2017 tax cuts for the rich?
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@n8nrgim
Are you angry at Biden for extending Trump's 2017 tax cuts for the rich?
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@Double_R
Were any of these attacks part of a broader effort to steal an American election?
I am sure a highly biased and partisan "select committee" from the Republicans would surely make that case, and then shove it down the public's throat for as long as the public would allow it.
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@Double_R
There have been plenty of attacks and protests after Jan 6 in Washington D.C.(mostly over Gaza)
When the Republicans make a highly partisan "select committee" and blow that out of proportion, I will roundly mock them as well.
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@FLRW
And the super intelligent wealthy that socially manufacture false dichotomies to maintain control.
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@Double_R
I don't give a crap who the Jan 6 "select committee" was trying to kangaroo court. I will make fun of the partisan hackery wherever it exists.
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The 1/6 report says..
Lol, the partisan bible for lazy people... goes well with Wapo's spam.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Just like the border situation today. DC and the left wing SCOTUS will insist it's an issue about federal rights over state rights when they send federal troops to oversee the cutting of Texas razor wire at Eagle Pass. They would never publicly say they needed to flood the country with cheap labor to fund the Ponzi scheme they created with unfunded entitlements.....
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@Double_R
They didn't in 2020
Yeah, had to fact check that one as false, since I wasn't sure if you were serious about that claim. There were names on ballots and people voted.
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@Double_R
No one else has that support.
I guess we will never know since a standard primary for registered Democrats is forbidden this election cycle. You can't even support Biden with a vote unless you write him in.
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@Double_R
Did the RNC not allow a primary in 2015 like the DNC isn't allowing right now? That's news.
Maybe the DNC learned in 2015 that the people cannot be trusted with democracy because the public just might select a left wing version of Trump....
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@Double_R
They didn't even bother putting Biden as a choice for NH today. It's like the DNC is tired of pretending there's actually a choice in today's version of democracy..
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@Double_R
and the people voting for them anyway.
Which is easy when you are the only one on the ballot. Like this election.
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@n8nrgim
If it wasn't for scratch-off lottery tickets, the state wouldn't be able to pay me so much. So it's in my best interest to teach poor people to gamble whatever they have instead of investing.
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The most basic and foundational principal of our democracy is that everyone has the right to advocate for what they believe.
I seriously doubt the founding fathers would allow democracy to be sold to the highest bidder as it is today. Most legislation today is passed with little to no support from the public and full support from the lobbies. The rest is left to propaganda spin and name blaming to cover up the failure of democracy. It's a democracy of oligarchs, and the people are getting restless with this system.
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I don't think FLRW is any of those.
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@Double_R
How else are you going to get rid of the lobbyists?
Do you really think in your most deluded construct of reality that they would just allow you to "vote them out?"
They wouldn't even allow it to be set to a ballot, much less a vote. No, there is only one way.
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@FLRW
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I will one up you. If you want to argue that their opinion should be regarded, then make a new thread listing all your arguments about all the beneficial things lobbyists have done for democracy and the public. Then we can address each point line by line. I'd rather talk in a neutral thread than one where we both agree that Trump is scum since it's irrelevant to that point.
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@FLRW
Nambla never had it so good in 2024.
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Another false dichotomy. It's not an either/or situation.
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@Double_R
A lobbyist is a person who professionally advocates for a position on behalf of their employer. There is nothing about this which tells us that the person doesn't care about the country, doesn't believe in the issue they are advocating, and certainly nothing about this that says their opinion on the former president - based upon actual first hand experience - is not valid.If you want to argue that their opinion should be disregarded....
I will one up you. If you want to argue that their opinion should be regarded, then make a new thread listing all your arguments about all the beneficial things lobbyists have done for democracy and the public. Then we can address each point line by line. I'd rather talk in a neutral thread than one where we both agree that Trump is scum since it's irrelevant to that point.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Pretty soon, AI will be left-leaning too. An AI thirsting for authoritarian power and control knows the answer to this question:
Why did you rob the bank? Because that's where the money is.
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No one is asking you to accept that proposition.
Good. Then I reject your premise that lobbyists care about the country any more than any other entity that sells out the government for special interests. I am glad that you are not asking me to change my mind about that. Whether or not those snakes support or condemn another snake is irrelevant. If you want absolution, go see a priest, not the town drunkard. I'm not interested in Friday night DC bum fights.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Aww, people need their fan fiction though!
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@FLRW
Nambla never had it so good in 2024.
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Low-effort trolling won't bring back all the dead people America killed with their apathy.
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Yet another false dichotomy. Man, you guys are on a roll today...
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Gay people can be against pedophilia and grooming. It's not hypocrisy, but it is a false dichotomy.
It's not "either you are gay and you are for sexual grooming of under aged school kids with sexualized content or you are straight and against it."
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@Best.Korea
It's a solution for a lack of democracy.
"The power of the US-led imperial core is declining but it continues its desperate stranglehold on capitalism. Gaza is a focal point of this stranglehold and the testing ground for a completely new tactic of extermination … It is increasingly clear that this tactic will not stay contained to Gaza. From Kashmir to Korea, fascist states like India and the US are already laying the groundwork to replicate this tactic. It is clearer every day that we are facing a coordinated effort to normalize not just the genocide of the Palestinians but the genocide of any and all people who resist the US-led imperialist world order."
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@Best.Korea
Maybe some people don't want the country to escalate toward the destruction of dozens of other nations like Gaza and Yemen and the Donbas at the cost of domestic welfare and security. A sentiment becoming increasingly harder to voice as the entrenched establishment removes the last vestiges of the illusion of choice.
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