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Humor me. Assume we live in a world where appearances matter to various people, dumb and smart. Who would you pick?
If you had to pick a scape goat on the left to balance out a Trump conviction, solely for appearances sake, who would you pick?
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@Double_R
Humor me. Assume we live in a world where appearances matter. Who would you pick?
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@Double_R
If you had to pick a scape goat on the left to balance out a Trump conviction, solely for appearances sake, who would you pick?
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@ebuc
All MAGA cultist need to go in for mental evaluation at certified mental institutions.
So forcing half of America into Mental Institutions. That does not seem like an insane plan at all.
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@ebuc
How would you eliminate Maga?
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@Double_R
If you had to pick a scape goat on the left to balance out a Trump conviction, solely for appearances sake, who would you pick?
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Trump become popular by saying Obama wasn’t born in AmericaTrump announced his campaign by saying Mexicans are rapists and drug dealersRepublicans believe you make America great by denying blacks the right to vote. Changes to voting laws in Texas have focused on making it harder for blacks to vote, such as in Houston.Republicans like Trump tried to blame January 6 on Black Lives Matter activistsTrump’s challenges to the 2020 election were focused on areas with black populations like, Atlanta, Detroit and Philadelphia and Phoenix.
Do you honestly believe you are not straw-manning Maga with these esoteric examples?
Also, you used the word "Republican" alot. Not all Republicans care about Maga.
In fact, analyzing recent polling of Democrats, there are quite a few Democrat Biden voters with regrets that could possibly classify as Maga.
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@Best.Korea
Not as crazy as the Chinese. The Chinese fucked a lot of secrets out of Congressman Swalwell.
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@Best.Korea
This encryption is almost like the WW2 enigma code. A proto-computer broke the code using educated guesses.
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@DavidAZ
He is worried Trumpanzees will take us back to 1965 when systemic racism was outlawed unlike what we have today with protected classes of victims.
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To someone who is no very bright
You Jane. Me Tarzan.
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@DavidAZ
they plan on teaching him a lesson.
"You take on the intelligence community they have 6 ways to Sunday of getting back at you."
-Chuck Schumer, currently the 3rd most powerful person in government.
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@TWS1405_2
I was really just posting for the polling among independents, but I included it all for context.
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"Hey guys, welcome to the Liberal Hive Mind, the channel solely focused on exposing the abundant hypocrisy of the left. The people know, man, the people know. Clearly, the people know what's going on. I don't know exactly what the Democrat establishment is trying to accomplish here. There's one side that says the Democrat's strategy is to artificially promote Donald Trump, basically turning him into a martyr to guarantee that he's the Republican nominee. Because from their perspective, they'd rather go against Donald Trump than Ron DeSantis.
And then there's the other angle that they're just trying to stop Donald Trump at any and all costs because they know they can't beat him without resorting to these corrupt tactics. The whole Ron DeSantis angle, as if they'd rather have Trump than DeSantis, not exactly sure about that one considering the polling data. I'm more inclined to believe that it's simply a continuation from 2017 to now of the endless witch hunt to destroy Donald Trump.
They want him out of the way because they understand that he is the only current clear-standing threat to the Uni-party establishment. And so, for the sake of this video, we're going to operate under that understanding. The Democrats are trying to destroy Donald Trump because obviously, he's a clear threat to their power. Well, if that is their goal, if the goal is to render Donald Trump unelectable because of all these criminal indictments, he can't vote for a criminal. If that's the goal, well, boy, are Democrats failing.
The people know, once again, Donald Trump is indicted, and once again, Donald Trump is surging beyond belief. Let me show you guys exactly what I mean by that. Alright folks, we've already got the polling data from two separate pollsters. Let's first start off with the CBS report, which finds that the Trump indictment helps Donald Trump more than it hurts him.
Start with Republican primary voters because we're in the heat of this campaign. They say it does not matter. They expressly say that this will not change their views, and maybe that doesn't surprise. They've been with Donald Trump for years. But what's interesting is the why. When you ask if they're more concerned that this is politically motivated or if there's a national security risk, they come down heavily on the politically motivated side, with 76 percent of them saying that.
And you know what's interesting about this is you juxtapose that against the broader public who is much more split, and in many cases, the public says these aren't mutually exclusive. It can be in part both. But the Republican primary voter, Donald Trump is still on top, and this hasn't changed anything. I'm sure leftoids are shrieking in horror. ***"What is wrong with these Republican voters? How could they be more highly motivated to vote for a criminal facing criminal indictment?"**
Or... here's the thing, leftoid....
Republican voters have this unique ability to critically think and, of course, observe nuance and double standards. You know when Hillary Clinton responded to the Trump indictment with this tweet that we pointed out earlier, bringing this back in light of recent news, blah blah blah, but her emails, gloating over the Trump indictment, while I understand that all you leftoids with your CNN brains simply clap like a bunch of seals, "Earth, Earth, home, I'm with her, Donald Trump's a criminal."
Well, I understand that that's the case for you. We, on the other side, have a little bit of a different reaction, especially when we're armed with the facts from James Comey's assessment of Hillary Clinton's emails back in 2016, where he wrote, and I'm quoting, "You can see the document right over here, although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information."
Now, of course, "no intent." Hillary Clinton must have just been ignorant of the basic laws concerning her handling of classified information as a private citizen, in a private capacity. There is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information. We know that Hillary Clinton is actually guilty of what they're accusing Donald Trump of. We also know that Hillary Clinton's staffers smashed their cell phones and smashed hard drives, bleach bit hard drives, to cover up evidence of criminal wrongdoing.
So maybe, armed with the basic facts and basic nuance over here, we're not instantly willing to jump on the bandwagon that Trump's a criminal and this indictment is legitimate. Oh, but the documents, the documents. CBS's Catherine Herridge, during that same segment, goes into some of the details pertaining to these documents. Catherine, you've been doing reporting about the risk assessment, about just what was in these documents. Educate us on that.
Well, what jumps out to me, John, is when you go to the section on the willful retention of National Defense information, by my count, there are 21 top-secret documents. And the disclosure of top-secret information has the expectation of exceptionally grave damage to national security. But what stands out to me is some of the classified codings, like TK or Talent Keyhole. You don't see that very often. That's about intelligence from overhead imagery.
For example, if we're looking at a terrorist target, do we have such good visibility that we can count the hairs on their head? Can we see what they're eating for breakfast on their terrace patio? Those are capabilities that we don't want our adversaries to know that we have. Then also special access programs or SAP. These are highly restricted programs because of the sensitivity of the intelligence and the technology, such as stealth technology, for example.
Think of classified information like the Pentagon special access programs. Are these handful of rooms where there's just a limited number of keys to control and restrict access to that information? So it's not just secret, it's the top of the top of the top. Some of these are way beyond top-secret, like I said, Talent Keyhole. When you're talking about special access programs or SCI, sensitive compartmentalized information, these really are the crown jewels of the US intelligence community.
Some of these documents are way beyond top secret national security documents, and leftoids' brains start instantly imploding here. "Oh my Lord, way beyond top-secret documents, while he's definitely a criminal this time." But of course, nobody seems to take five seconds to think while she's simply describing the nature of the documents. Again, these are still Donald Trump's personal presidential records. They're literally his documents.
And it's not like he had them just laying around in his garage next to his Corvette like sleepy creepy piss pants Biden, or at his office in Chinatown. It's not like he had thousands of classified documents on an unsecured private email server at his personal home like Hillary Clinton did. No, he had these documents safely stored at his home in Mar-A-Lago with 24/7 Secret Service protection.
And probably the most important part, I mean the core of this initial accusation targeting Donald Trump was the destruction of classified information. Remember the infamous supposed damning photographic evidence of documents being torn up and flushed down the toilet at Mar-A-Lago? It was literally just a random piece of paper in a toilet bowl. But the initial charges were the destruction of classified information. But as it turns out, those photographs were not taken inside Mar-A-Lago, but in a public restroom at a Walmart.
So the whole case seems to be falling apart even before it begins, and the American people are seeing through it. They're not buying into this politically motivated attack on Donald Trump. In fact, it's only making him stronger. And this is not just limited to Republicans. Even among independent voters, the CBS report found that 63% say the indictment will not change their views of Trump, and among Democratic primary voters, 56% say the indictment will not change their views.
So despite the left's desperate attempts to destroy Donald Trump, it seems to be backfiring, and Trump's support is only growing stronger. The people know, man, the people know. The Democrats' strategy to undermine Trump with these indictments is failing, and they're only strengthening his position. It's just another example of the left's hypocrisy and their fear of Trump's power.
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@FLRW
I am saying it is rare that you post a fact on this site. Most of it is just regurgitated TDS opinions.
Engaging in debates and discussions on a debate site requires a certain level of maturity and intellectual rigor. Presenting childish opinions in such settings is generally considered unproductive and can hinder meaningful discourse. Childish opinions often lack substance, as, by definition, they tend to be simplistic, emotional, or based on personal biases, or based on regurgitated talking points from corporate media rather than based on objective evidence or thoughtful analysis. By mostly focusing on presenting and promoting childish opinions, you habitually fail to contribute to the overall quality of the discussion and are often perceived as lacking credibility. In order to foster constructive dialogue and promote the exchange of well-reasoned arguments, you should engage in forum discussions with a mindset of intellectual maturity, thoughtful analysis, and a willingness to engage with different perspectives. This allows for a more fruitful and productive exchange of ideas, while also facilitating a deeper understanding of the topic at hand where you will be open to grow and to change.
I'm not sayin you shouldn't hate Trump, but simply having the virtue of that opinion doesn't excuse lazy thinking.
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@FLRW
The alleged...
Are you ever interested in facts?
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@FLRW
There's 7 other presidents besides Trump that could answer that for you.
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@DavidAZ
When has the FBI ever posted pictures of their investigations on the internet for just a plain John Doe before the investigation was complete? Had it not been Donald Trump, NOBODY would or has cared.
Publicly posting the images means it's poisoned fruit evidence so it wouldn't likely be presented in court. It's almost like it was purely done as a political stunt instead of the pursuit of a conviction.
If the FBI were to post photo evidence related to an ongoing investigation on the internet, it would compromise the integrity of the investigation and impact a possible conviction. Posting photo evidence on the internet, especially if it is intended to incite bias or prejudice, can lead to the widespread dissemination of potentially misleading or incomplete information, influencing public perception and creating a biased narrative even before the case reaches the court. This can compromise the accused's ability to receive a fair trial. Additionally, circulating photo evidence online can taint the potential jury pool, as jurors are expected to base their decisions solely on the evidence presented in court. Exposure to potentially biased or prejudicial material outside of the courtroom may influence their perceptions and affect their impartiality. Furthermore, posting photo evidence online raises concerns about the preservation of the chain of custody, as it becomes difficult to ensure that the evidence has remained unaltered and uncontaminated. This can weaken its reliability and admissibility in court. Moreover, releasing sensitive or confidential photo evidence to the public can compromise the integrity of the ongoing investigation. It may tip off potential suspects, interfere with witness cooperation, or hinder the collection of additional evidence. To safeguard the integrity of an investigation and potential conviction, law enforcement agencies typically adhere to established protocols and guidelines for handling and disclosing evidence, seeking court orders for the release of evidence and ensuring it is presented in a controlled and regulated manner within the legal framework.
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@FLRW
The PRA requires that all records created by Presidents (and Vice-Presidents) be turned over to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) at the end of their administrations,” according to the statement released by the National Archives on Friday afternoon.
This seems like an opinion statement. A simple google of the PRA shows this isn't true.
The statement that the Presidential Records Act (PRA) requires "all" records to be turned over to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) is clearly too broad and oversimplified a claim. There are exceptions and allowances within the PRA that provide for the withholding, restricted access, or temporary restrictions on a great many records. Using the term "all" in this context can be misleading because it implies that there are no exceptions or circumstances where certain records may not be turned over. The exceptions outlined in the PRA, such as executive privilege, national security concerns, or privacy considerations, allow for the possibility of withholding or restricting access to various documents.
Restricted Access: One exception within the PRA allows for the restriction of access to certain records. This is typically done when records contain sensitive or classified information that could jeopardize national security or violate privacy rights. Restricted access ensures that such information is safeguarded and not disclosed inappropriately. Individuals may require special authorization or clearance to access these restricted records.
Temporary Restrictions: Another exception permits temporary restrictions on access to specific records. This is particularly relevant when records are related to ongoing investigations, pending legal actions, or matters requiring privacy protection. Temporarily restricting access allows for the proper handling and resolution of sensitive information before it is released publicly. Once the temporary restriction period expires or the circumstances change, access to the records may be granted.
Review and Consultation: The PRA mandates a process of review and consultation before the release of presidential records. This involves providing the incumbent and former Presidents, as well as other relevant individuals or entities, an opportunity to review the records and provide input. The purpose of this step is to identify any potential conflicts or concerns related to the disclosure of the records and to seek input from those who may have a significant interest in their contents.
Executive Privilege: The concept of executive privilege is recognized under the PRA as an exception to the release of certain records. Executive privilege allows the President to withhold records if it is determined that their release would be contrary to the public interest. This privilege may be invoked to protect sensitive decision-making processes, confidential advice, or other matters that could impact national security or the proper functioning of the executive branch. However, any assertion of executive privilege must be justified and subject to legal scrutiny to ensure its validity.
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@Slainte
I'm not a Trump fan either, but he deserves some credit for exposing a broken Democracy we all were carefully convinced was working before 2016. Now we know it's actually been broken for decades and will continue to be for decades to come.
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@n8nrgim
i really dont know what he was trying to accomplish in taking all those docs.
It's likely for political leverage.
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@n8nrgim
I'm just hoping people realize the joy of participating in "The Trumpanzee Show" is paid with a burning country.
You can choose to be much less hateful.
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@n8nrgim
Favorite? So deep down you enjoy what Maga is doing to the country. You believe the entertainment value far outweighs any possible damage Maga can and will do to America.
I guess that's 1st world entertainment for you.
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@n8nrgim
But obstruction of justice is different...
It is different mostly because it's such an arbitrary subjective crime ranking up there with contempt of court. (which Trump was exonerated of during one of his political impeachments) all of which hinges on the subjective claim of intent.
A good analogy is a hateful and emotional cop deciding you are drunk just because he doesn't like the way you react to his questions, or says you are resisting arrest just because you didn't comply fast enough. The cop is assuming your intent in both situations, but what's worse is he is assuming intent through a biased and emotional lens..
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@FLRW
It's more likely he will use it all as an October surprise against Biden.
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@n8nrgim
I'm just saying, you didn't coin the word Trumpanzee on your own. It was perpetuated. That hatred is the dark energy that fuels Maga.
You can refuse to play the Maga game and not create more Maga. That is a choice you can make. Nobody is forcing you to make Trump great again by making him a political martyr worthy of all your hatred.
You can choose to put the chaotic hate card back in the deck, and play an orderly card full of progress and vision. That's a choice you can make to end Maga for good.
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@n8nrgim
So why play the emotional card and create more Magas?
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@n8nrgim
Well your hate is just creating the Barbara Streisand effect, which means more Maga, not less.
Even the trial of Nelson Mandela had at least the appearances of impartiality. The Trump trials don't even offer the pretense the trial is not about emotional hate and the loss of political power. Trump's only card to play here is the victim card, and you are playing his game all the way to the end. I don't expect you to recognize your own shortcomings. Just letting you know what your blind hatred will inevitably sow.
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@n8nrgim
Why do you resort to hate when arguing?
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@PREZ-HILTON
They are not similar because one person is named Trump. Only non-Trump politicians are above the law.
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“the most damaging spy in Bureau history.”
Steele did more damage to the FBI, and he wasn't even an American spy.
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@ebuc
Why would you want to give Trump a Nelson Mandela status by jailing your rival?
Don't you want to eliminate Maga, and not make it grow?
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@zedvictor4
Drag queens are the epitome of morally weak people. Apparel signaling as you will.
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@zedvictor4
I should have clarified: virtue signaling via apparel instead of actions just makes you less smart and morally weak.
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@ebuc
How will you eliminate Maga?
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@Theweakeredge
you can select debate voters now. I've been known to be pretty impartial.
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Oh, and Biden sniffs little girl's hair. You did vote for what you thought represented you, didn't you?
Never did see that connection. A sniffer in chief has to have sub sniffers.
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It's practically legal because unless your name is "Trump" the DA won't prosecute.
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Germans rarely talk about Hitler and most certainly do not obsess over him. You can go to jail for a long time even mentioning his name in the wrong context by German law.
Leftists are so ridiculous.
Trump is the epitome of a 1st world problem. (mean tweets)
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@zedvictor4
I would suggest that you go for a blue one.
All hats just make you dumber.
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I saw a cool meme that had Trump running again with Hunter Biden as his VP so that the investigations would stop.
Foolproof plan to destroy the deep state.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Of course there's a reason why MSNBC has Clapper on regularly. American leftists trust the CIA to run the country.
Just like the Nazis trusted the brownshirts.
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@FLRW
You misspelled Hunter Biden.
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@TWS1405_2
Hunter Biden is most definitely above the law.
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@Theweakeredge
Most people have nothing equal to a career criminal. Nothing in common at all.
So equality is irrelevant.
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@ebuc
How would you eliminate Maga?
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@FLRW
So your solution to stopping Maga is "hope"
May your prophets be wise. But I guess surrender is also an option.
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@FLRW
So Trump would end Maga? What a madlad.
I thought you didn't trust Trump to promote your values?
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