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Biden is committed to fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian.
Beep boop.
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Man now Russia is really going to level cities. You saw how Grozny turned up during the second war after labeling all of Chechnya terrorist organization. They really leveled all of the city. Now thankfully it has rebuild and looks marvelous.... Donbass can be rebuild but it's going to take sometime if Russia decides to push harder or not. But Odessa, Kharkiv and Mykolaiv is going to leveled far worse than Mariupol ever did...
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The Minsk agreements stipulated that they would be brought back into Ukraine under a constitutional process. Zelenski was elected on the platform of a peaceful resolution to the Donbas. Slava Donbas.
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This act of sabotaging peace talks is going to cause so much suffering for so many people and inevitably we Americans will be punished for the acts our immoral, psychopathic government. I've never seen such evil.
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Like President Eisenhower said, "Beware the industrial military complex."
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America should be tried in the international court of law for Crimes Against Humanity and must be held accountable for all crimes and misery that has brought against entire humanity including their own citizens. America is a Criminal State at the end of its imperial power.
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Aside from the modicum of western compassion I do believe that after 8 years of getting bombed by Kiev, the people of Donbas just might want to vote to leave the debacle of Ukraine.
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One of the worst feelings, is witnessing your own country fall before your eyes. Seeing my own country(USA), being run by a corrupt government, corrupt news media, and ignorant sheeple is truly heartbreaking for me. I can literally see my country, crumbling away.
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Biden is committed to fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian.
Beep boop.
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Biden is committed to fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian.
Beep boop.
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@Shila
You can't spell dead Ukraine without AI.
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Biden is committed to fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian.
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@Shila
You cant spell Ukraine without AI.
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Biden is happy killing Ukrainians this winter if he can make money off of it. The war will go on thanks to Biden.
Biden is committed to fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian.
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The US provoked the Russia Ukraine war, which led to the high price of natural gas and pushed up the cost of industrial production in Europe. With the Federal Reserve raising interest rates, European assets and manufacturing industries flowed to the United States for production. The US had intended to provoke the situation in the Taiwan Strait in Asia in an attempt to launch a proxy war in the Asia Pacific region, but it was not successful.
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Brandon said it himself when asked about Nordstream 2. Brandon said "There will be no Nordstream 2" The reporter asked back "How will you do that, it's controlled by germany and Russia?" To which Brandon responded "I promise you, we'll be able to do it"
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America destroyed it, Biden already said in an interview that the USA would put an end to the pipeline if Russia goes into Ukraine. Poland reps also thanked the USA for destroying the pipeline. And btw, America is the one profiting from this, Europe has to import Gas from USA now.
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Obviously Americans- Biden said he would stop the second pipe and it would never be used More business to relocate to USA from Germany More USA gas sales to Europe at higher prices Huge win for USA, catastrophic loss for Europe and Germany.
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America destroyed it, Biden already said in an interview that the USA would put an end to the pipeline if Russia goes into Ukraine. Poland reps also thanked the USA for destroying the pipeline. And btw, America is the one profiting from this, Europe has to import Gas from USA now.
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"It's not because we love the planet, it's because we hate humanity"
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The US provoked the Russia Ukraine war, which led to the high price of natural gas and pushed up the cost of industrial production in Europe. With the Federal Reserve raising interest rates, European assets and manufacturing industries flowed to the United States for production. The US had intended to provoke the situation in the Taiwan Strait in Asia in an attempt to launch a proxy war in the Asia Pacific region, but it was not successful.
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US is working hard to make EU continue buying expensive gas from USA
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Brandon said it himself when asked about Nordstream 2. Brandon said "There will be no Nordstream 2" The reporter asked back "How will you do that, it's controlled by germany and Russia?" To which Brandon responded "I promise you, we'll be able to do it"
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@Shila
The Russians were blamed for sabotage.
Russians want peace, Biden does not.
Biden is happy killing Ukrainians this winter if he can make money off of it. The war will go on thanks to Biden.
Biden is committed to fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian.
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@Shila
We can blame Biden for blowing up nordstream and delaying peace talks.
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@bmdrocks21
Because people that still get riled up about Nazis (ie. mainly college students) don't tend to have much of a sense of humor.
I did Nazi that coming...
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But Putin has been warned America and NATO will not put up with any use of nuclear bombs on Ukraine.
You are correct about that. America won't put any shit up to stop it.
Not with 8 Trillion dollars lost in the stock market.
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Proof that Biden wants to kill more Ukrainians. The war MUST go on.
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@Shila
A stalemate is not acceptable to Putin or Ukraine. Ukrainians will fight till all their land is recovered.
Then they will fight until all their lands are burned to ash.
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@bmdrocks21
And you’ll see 50% of the lefties on here reflexively defending piss poor satire.
I don't know, some of the radical leftists called her crazy at first.
A postmodernist leftist cant translate satire since satire requires concrete truths.
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@Shila
At best, you’re going to have a stalemate. Now a stalemate is terrible for the people of Ukraine. Because we know what Putin is going to do. He’s going to do what he did in Grozny. He’s going to raze to the ground areas that he needs to abandon.
The Ukrainian army has been very heroic, and I applaud them for having resisted.
But they cannot win the war.
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@bmdrocks21
I was willing to listen to her stance on why teen mutilation was necessary, but she kinda lost me at the "98 percent of trans love the surgeries, and the other 2 percent just live on"
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What appalls me about those who purport to support Ukraine and who are attacking the anti-war position, is that they seem to be seriously considering the possibility that Ukraine is going to win the war and overthrow Putin. Now that’s completely pie in the sky. Anybody who believes that is jeopardizing the lives of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians as we speak.
At best, you’re going to have a stalemate. Now a stalemate is terrible for the people of Ukraine. Because we know what Putin is going to do. He’s going to do what he did in Grozny. He’s going to raze to the ground areas that he needs to abandon.
The Ukrainian army has been very heroic, and I applaud them for having resisted.
But they cannot win the war.
Do we really want this painful, murderous stalemate go on and on and on? Do we really want to invest in regime change in Russia that is instigated by the United States? Whenever the United States has tried to regime change we’ve had complete catastrophe. Look at Afghanistan, look at Iraq, look at Libya. And this is a nuclear power. Do we want to play with this fire, with this nuclear fire?
We should have an immediate ceasefire. President Zelenskyy, to his credit, has now adopted the very clear proposal that ant-war advocates have been making from day one: that we should have an agreement between Joe Biden and Vladimir Putin — of course, with Zelenskyy, and the European Union participating — that makes a very simple trade, a deal. Russia withdraws from Ukraine, and Ukraine withdraws from the Donbas, in exchange for an end to the sanctions and a commitment, by the West, that Ukraine is going to be part of the West but not part of Nato.
The alternative is a very, very, very, very, cold and deadly winter for Ukraine.
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@Shila
Despite what the Ukrainian president and American generals say, there is no valid military basis on which to support the hope that Ukraine will win its war. Consider the situation that has unfolded in the Eastern part of the country.
At the outset of the Battle of Donbas in mid-April, Russia started with substantial advantages in manpower, tanks, personnel carriers, artillery, rockets, and combat aviation. Russia has exploited its advantages over the past two-plus months grinding down the Ukrainian defenders. Many in the west routinely describe Russia’s progress as “tiny advances” and “plodding,” but when viewed over time, the more accurate terms should be: methodical and relentless.
Since April, Russia has captured major towns and cities such as Izyum, Rubizhne, Kreminna, Poposna, Zolotoe, Severodonetsk, and as of Sunday, Lysychansk.
In some ways, however, the biggest setback for Ukraine hasn’t been the loss of territory so much as the loss of its best-trained and experienced troops. Russia has been imposing up to 1,000 total Ukrainian casualties per day in the Donbas. Reports suggest that Ukrainian troops evacuated Severodonetsk and Lysychansk by rubber boats. Because the Ukrainian General Staff waited too late to order the evacuation, their forces left without their equipment, abandoning large quantities of tanks, personnel carriers, and most critically, artillery pieces.
The sum total of all heavy weapons delivered or promised by the West to Ukraine has been only a small percentage of what’s actually needed but will not likely be enough to offset the substantial losses Ukraine suffered in its recent defeats, much less enable a counteroffensive in mere weeks from now. A senior Ukrainian military official admitted that even before the twin defeats in Severodonetsk and Lysychansk, the UAF had lost approximately 50% of its pre-war stocks of heavy weapons. Even the arrival of a few modern Western rocket launchers will not come close to replacing these losses.
Russia, meanwhile, also suffers losses in the Donbas fight, but likely at a lower rate for two key reasons. First, they learned from their initial debacles of the invasion in February in which they made large scale advances with armor that were not adequately supported. Now, Russia prioritizes heavy bombardment, rockets, and air strikes and only brings in ground forces to fight Ukrainian troops when Russian commanders believe their enemy has been sufficiently ground down.
Second, Russia enjoys at least a 10 to 1 advantage in artillery and rocket ammunition – and a dramatic advantage in air sorties over the Donbas – and the Kremlin’s troops are able to hit the Ukrainian troops with a far greater density of bombs. The New York Times reported on Tuesday that the “artillery war in Ukraine’s east is seemingly never-ending,” noting that “the shelling is constant — wounding and killing and driving those soldiers cowering in trenches and foxholes slowly insane.”
These Russian advantages have proven decisive in allowing Putin’s forces to capture large swaths of Ukrainian territory in the Donbas. It is important to acknowledge, however, that these advantages still exist. The Slavyansk/Kramatorsk grouping of Ukrainian troops appears to be next in the Russian firing line, as both are already being relentlessly shelled. Military fundamentals imply strongly that Russian troops will continue their methodical drive west.
The idea that by next month the UAF could both halt Moscow’s offensive and then launch its own counteroffensive has no realistic basis. It is therefore time to consider the unthinkable: Ukraine may not be able to stop the Russian offensive and could lose the war.
Overwhelming numbers of Ukrainian citizens tell pollsters they do not want Zelensky to trade territory for peace. That sentiment is certainly understandable; any people who were the victims of unprovoked invasion would detest the idea of surrendering any of their land to the aggressor. But the leadership in Kyiv and its Western backers must now face the sobering realities that diplomacy and a negotiated settlement may be the only way to prevent even more Ukrainian territory from falling to Russia.
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@Shila
But what about this overt campaign by Zelenskyy to encourage more direct Western military intervention?
He’s the leader of a country that is being invaded: it is perfectly natural for him to be calling upon the rest of the world to come to their assistance. I’m sure he would have loved it if Nato waltzed in, even though I’m sure he understands that it would bring us to the precipice of a nuclear catastrophe. It is his job to ask for us to step in.
But to his credit, he’s done something else as well. He’s embraced the neutrality solution. And he is participating in discussions with Russians, and negotiations. Let’s face it, the European Union is a figment of our imagination. We’re so fragmented, we are a non-player, really. It’s only the United States that can provide Zelenskyy with the backing he needs in his negotiations with Putin.
What people object to about that is that it has the whiff of people making decisions for smaller countries over their heads. What the people of Ukraine want is neither here nor there.
My own country would not exist if we didn’t have such an arrangement back in the late 1820s. We were under the Ottomans for 400 or 500 years. We had our own revolution, our own resistance against the Ottoman armies. In the end, how did Greece come about? It came about because the great powers — the English, the French, and the Russians — sat down with the Ottomans. And they said: “Greece becomes an independent state, it’s a kind of buffer zone between the Ottoman Empire and the West”. And we were given a chance to exist.
What is your message, then, to people who object to the invasion of Ukraine but also feel deeply uneasy about the West’s involvement? How should they react when they are called Putin supporters?
Be kind. I don’t think you should antagonise anybody these days, because there is so much antagonism already. Maintain your cool, support the Ukrainian resistance against Putin’s armies. Do not succumb to the silence of militarism and perpetual war. And always keep your eye on the trophy, which is immediate peace, withdrawal of Russian troops and Ukrainian troops from the Donbas — and a Donbas that we all help get back up on its feet.
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@Shila
A lot of people will listen to what you’ve just said and think that it is verging on conspiracy: evil Americans in suits sitting around board tables, trying to create wars in order to profit from them.
There’s no conspiracy; nothing of what I said is conspiracy. It’s the truth that if you’re selling arms, you are making a lot of money. If you’re selling oil and gas that is fracked in the United States, you are making a lot of money. We know that.
It’s not causation though, is it? It’s one thing to observe that, but those people aren’t in charge of making the decisions.
Of course. Because why didn’t they do it ten years ago? They would have had an interest in doing this ten years ago. Nobody forced Putin to invade. It wasn’t Nato’s fault that he invaded, even if Nato created circumstances for him to be powerful, in my view. It was Putin’s criminal choice to invade Ukraine. And that gave rise to military resistance by the Ukrainians, which I applaud. And then on the coat-tails of these developments that have nothing to do with them, people come in with particular axes to grind, political ones, and financial agendas. So the whole thing acquires momentum. This is not a conspiracy theory. That is, I think, a solid rational analysis of what was going on.
How, then, should we treat the very popular and successful president of Ukraine? He has been incredibly effective at generating international attention. Should we support him? Should we be critical of him?
We should be critically supportive. Look, I followed Zelenskyy’s career. It was interesting that he was elected on a platform for making peace with Moscow, and for sidelining the oligarchic and ultra Right-wing elements within Ukraine. We have to note that. It’s also true that he failed in doing this to a very large extent: the oligarchs that he was going to wage war against effectively had him. His reign has not been easy. And the oligarchs managed to maintain their control over the country, some would say, forcing Zelenskyy to succumb.
The neo-Nazi Azov battalion in Mariupol and so on maintain their swastikas. I’m sure that Zelenskyy wanted to get rid of them, but he couldn’t. But none of this matters. Because when a country is invaded, I feel a natural duty to support the people who have been invaded and to support their leader — even if it’s somebody I would not have voted for, had I been one of them.
There’s no conspiracy; nothing of what I said is conspiracy. It’s the truth that if you’re selling arms, you are making a lot of money. If you’re selling oil and gas that is fracked in the United States, you are making a lot of money. We know that.
It’s not causation though, is it? It’s one thing to observe that, but those people aren’t in charge of making the decisions.
Of course. Because why didn’t they do it ten years ago? They would have had an interest in doing this ten years ago. Nobody forced Putin to invade. It wasn’t Nato’s fault that he invaded, even if Nato created circumstances for him to be powerful, in my view. It was Putin’s criminal choice to invade Ukraine. And that gave rise to military resistance by the Ukrainians, which I applaud. And then on the coat-tails of these developments that have nothing to do with them, people come in with particular axes to grind, political ones, and financial agendas. So the whole thing acquires momentum. This is not a conspiracy theory. That is, I think, a solid rational analysis of what was going on.
How, then, should we treat the very popular and successful president of Ukraine? He has been incredibly effective at generating international attention. Should we support him? Should we be critical of him?
We should be critically supportive. Look, I followed Zelenskyy’s career. It was interesting that he was elected on a platform for making peace with Moscow, and for sidelining the oligarchic and ultra Right-wing elements within Ukraine. We have to note that. It’s also true that he failed in doing this to a very large extent: the oligarchs that he was going to wage war against effectively had him. His reign has not been easy. And the oligarchs managed to maintain their control over the country, some would say, forcing Zelenskyy to succumb.
The neo-Nazi Azov battalion in Mariupol and so on maintain their swastikas. I’m sure that Zelenskyy wanted to get rid of them, but he couldn’t. But none of this matters. Because when a country is invaded, I feel a natural duty to support the people who have been invaded and to support their leader — even if it’s somebody I would not have voted for, had I been one of them.
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@Shila
Something’s happened quite suddenly where to speak like that is now seen as a betrayal.
It’s what happens when war begins: we lose our head. Warmongering becomes cool and mainstream. Now, I have no doubt that there are cooler heads around Europe who are despairing. But they can’t speak out. I can see it in Germany, I can see it within the government of the Federal Republic: there are people who are besides themselves. They are pulling their hair out. Because if they speak out they will be immediately taken to task by the warmongers who are having a field day.
This is why it’s important that we band together to bring a modicum of rationality back to the debate and to focus on the only thing that matters at the moment. It’s not money. It’s not trade. It’s not natural gas. It is human lives in Ukraine. How can we stop people from dying? Because if they continue — the ones who put the theoretical right of Ukrainians to be members of Nato above the life of people in Ukraine, and above the opportunity of Ukraine to prosper as a Western democracy, which is inside the EU and outside of Nato — we’re going to be creating a quagmire that will ensure two things. Firstly, that thousands of people will die who could be saved, and secondly, that Ukraine is going to be a desert.
Do you observe that the people leading this warmongering, as you call it, would mainly describe themselves as liberals?
Yes. I can see that. But it’s not the first time. I remember when the United States were about to invade Iraq, even Left-wingers like Christopher Hitchens, a man that I admired all my life, became liberal imperialists. He was gung-ho about invading Iraq and spreading democracy. If you think of the early 1960s, it was JFK who initially showed a degree of enthusiasm for taking over Vietnam.
I do fear that it’s not just some liberal imperialists or liberal supporters of victory — of war until the final victory is achieved, as if it is possible to imagine invading Moscow. I feel that there’s something else there: a missing ingredient. Follow the money. The United States is a very complex economy. And it’s not homogeneous. Segments of the American economy are suffering as a result of the war, with the increasing price of oil. I believe Silicon Valley is not happy, because they’re being put in a very difficult situation. Even the banking sector, Wall Street, can’t really be enjoying what’s going on.
But if you are selling weapons, you are having a party. You have Olaf Scholtz, the German Chancellor, about to order 100 billion euros worth of American equipment, because the Germans are not making the stuff. If you are providing fracked oil and gas from New Mexico, from Minnesota, from Texas, you are looking at the new deals that are being struck between the European Union and the United States for LNG (liquefied natural gas), and you are rubbing your hands with glee. Because what was a dying industry in the United States now suddenly has been given a huge lease of life. This is not a conspiracy. If you have liberal imperialists, and you’ve got people that are going to make a lot of money out of this liberal imperialism, and you bring these together, you have a very powerful constituency in favour of maintaining the conflicts.
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@Shila
To state that Ukraine has the resources to take back the Donbas in 2022 or that the world is in a financial or military position to offer the amount of military aid required to do so is a lie.
Straight up lie.
Western Ukraine knows this, but they still haven't milked the last drop of international aid to sell on the black market. Peace will only come when the corruption ends.
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@Shila
Many of the weapons shipped to Ukraine were sold on the black market. Ukraine has neither the troops, nor the money to win in the Donbas like they did in 2014.
The fact that so many died so far is simply more proof of this.
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@Shila
In 2014, Donbas separatists did not have 300,000 troops backing them.
2022 is a whole different war from 2014 with a much different outcome.
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@Shila
And the people of Donbas will continue to fight western Ukraine as they did in 2014.
This time, Western Ukraine will lose. The people of Donbas will win.
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