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2nd most powerful person in the WORLD.
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@Double_R
Vegas odds on whether Pelosi visits Taiwan?
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@badger
Someone is ALWAYS going to be better than you Badger :(
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Gaslighting
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@RationalMadman
I am still not sure why the administration is still spending so much propaganda redefining what a recession is instead of actually helping people.
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which have historically been supported by Democrats
Exclusively?

why does it require BRUTAL FORCE? 
In case people get second thoughts :)

Suppose Mississippi wants to start sending toxic pollutants downstream to another state.
Like bussing illegal invaders to DC? I don't think the founding fathers thought for all contingencies :D

But apparently, the commerce clause doesn't apply to human traffiking. Even if the DC mayor screams for the government to fix it.

We actually don't have to wait for the EPA to do something either.
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That is a HUGE aspect of the commerce clause that will continue to be extremely significant despite how many times you ignore it. 
All of these transgressions against free Americans could be solved immediately if the clause were reworded (or if need be, translated via SCOTUS) to give the power to deregulate (destroy) state barriers to the free market instead of regulating (creating) barriers. Clear and precise language is necessary.
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@Danielle
Doesn't exactly seem like a fair trade. 
So when is the planned Urban secession?
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by Democrats coming into power? 

Why that party?
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@badger
Americans consider a lemonade stand a sweat shop.
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Thoughts?
I have complete faith in American central planners to create a poor class to exploit when they can't find any overseas.
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Tax on production should be abolished and replaced with consumption taxes.
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@Danielle
Why is it not socialism for Congress to use tax and spending powers to help provide utilities and paved roads to red states that can't afford it then?! 
I'm all for the government taking from the majority with brutal force and giving it to minorities as long as the majority is OKAY with that.

 You ignored every single one of those examples because duh, what could you possibly say in response...
Government should enforce contracts so yes there needs to be federal oversight for that. But please don't praise the government for doing bad things just because the good things supposedly cancel it out...c'mon man.

 how interstate issues would be resolved without the commerce clause.
Name me some modern examples. We can go from there.

It's weird that you would come at me from a tone of condescension when you constantly have to dodge my points because you don't know how to respond to them. Very ballsy. 
I was just trying to blend in :O

Why is it not socialism for Congress to use tax and spending powers to help provide utilities and paved roads to red states that can't afford it then?! Is it only socialism when the money goes to healthcare? Explain. 
It depends on how they do it. I am very wary about all the string pulling and influence peddling that seems to always accompany the kinds of projects that are supposedly to help the "little guy"

My point was that FEMA wouldn't exist if we eliminated federal agencies but I guess you are okay with them after all. 
Well let's take a cold, hard look at the alternative. If Rural areas saw no benefit for being in a Union, (and vice versa for Urban areas), then we now have the ground laid for a 2nd secession. Is that really worth saving a few bucks in the budget?



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@Danielle
Oh! let me play the Danielle game, I'm new so don't be too harsh...

Do you think we should not provide relief to Rural areas or are you (obviously) hard core FOR it because you are also all FOR restricting commerce as a diehard supporter of the Commerce clause?

I mean, only an idiot would think those 2 things are anything but the EXACT same thing... amirite?
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I HIGHLY doubt it since you want to abolish the Commerce Clause

How is providing relief anything remotely the same as restricting commerce?

Do you normally jam round pegs into square holes in your spare time for the funsies?
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@thett3
And that is the whole uncomfortable discussion when you ask hardcore tribalists where to put the undesirables. We are talking about people that a few years before, you would have considered fellow Americans. 

Balkanization has an extremely ugly side to it, and people should be forced to see that side and not be allowed to dismiss it casually.
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@Danielle
Good point, I do have a lot to think about! 
Sorry lol.. I just saw you write about the freedom of working outside the home and I had to do a doubletake.
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@Danielle
Lol. I'm sure she is lovely. 
So are wild lions :)
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@Danielle
Did your wife leave you for a black guy?
I would never wish that misery on anyone, especially a black guy.
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 I'm rooting for the team that doesn't chide me for working outside the home so I can provide for myself instead of relying on a man to support me;

Lol, like those Covid lockdowns that never happened???

What about you? What factors go into your clear preference as the central planners of choice? Do you own a corn field? Did your wife leave you for a black guy
The best worst choice as usual.
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@Danielle
Doesn't matter what team you root for, the central planning game must go on.


Amirite?
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@Danielle
<3<3<3
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@thett3
I 1000% agree that crop monoculture is bad. But that’s a land use issue, it has nothing to do with your compliant which was that urban areas have to subsidize rural areas getting roads, electricity, and running water. 
I find it absolutely weird that central-planning fans act concerned about monocropping when the same central planners made that possible through endless corn subsidies and ethanol propaganda.
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@TheUnderdog
Wdym?  Solar panels allow you to live off grid if you have batteries.  That’s the least statist thing possible if you pay for your own panels.
It is when you can't afford groceries because a corrupt government printed money out of thin air to subsidize them.
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@thett3
It's not wrong. Instead of embracing the social yin and yang, people lazily pursue the final solution through Democratic mob rule and the elimination of anything that is "not them"

That approach has disastrous, unintended consequences.
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@thett3
It's likely intellectuals view support to rural areas as foreign aid with strings attached.
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 Also pitching your “reforms” as “now we won’t have reason to care what you think at all!” Is saying the quiet part out loud I think lol
The final solution, Hitler style.
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@thett3
You can thank Plato and his "Philosopher Kings" for the evolution of this divide...he codified the whole "we appoint ourselves the 'wise ones' and give ourselves leave to exercise dominion over everyone we consider inferior to ourselves" mentality so prevalent in Western civilization, particularly in American academia, and thus provided an intellectually "respectable argument" for a thoroughly corrupt social order.


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2nd most powerful person in the WORLD.

Does this worry anyone at all?

I get the insatiable hunger of Democrats and Republicans for infinite central planning, but is this the planner of choice? If this is truly the product of Democracy, then we are doomed.
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@TheUnderdog
I might be wrong here though.

You are.


France power is owned by the state (plus a lot of other things)

Just don’t call nuclear power libertarian; it’s statist.

It's not nearly as statist as green energy, not even close. And it's only become so in America recently. All it takes is popular demand to return control to the people.
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@FLRW
So was the OP, but clearly you disagree with the parts of the OP that denounced it.

Your objectively cheeky and thoughtless post demonstrates the very reason why Danielle took the time to write the OP. 

It's a shame your opinion has spread through the country like a plague, shared by primalistic tribal sycophants with no thought to the future.

A mindset that heralds the eventual doom of America.
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@Danielle
Most of the Urban areas are extremely divided on Class lines with castes and alarmingly increasingly so. This is reflected in not only wealth inequality metrics but education gaps as well.

Of course within such a system, Being in the upper caste is highly sought after, but the migration statistics prove most people cannot make it.
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@FLRW
So you disagree with the OP?
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@Danielle
What do you think of the philosophy that ying and yang need to be embraced and not derided in a functioning society?
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Another argument against abortion legalization
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@Danielle
George Carlin says dogs are cuter than cats because they have eyebrows.
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Another argument against abortion legalization
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@Danielle
Animals don't have the same rights as humans.
In some states, Animals have more rights than an 8 month old human fetus.
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AFRIKA FIRST
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@3RU7AL
Noam Chomsky just came out and vilified the tyrannical USA administration for censoring RT.
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@TheUnderdog
This is a really good article you should read. Especially make sure to read how South Korea managed to keep Nuclear Power construction costs down during the same period it was rising in the USA.

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The private sector isn’t going to spend billions of dollars on nuclear power plants.  So if libertarians get the nuclear power they want, they are going to have to be government run.

Or alternatively, get the government out of the business of holding Nuclear power down. Investors had no problems making safe reactor plants before the government fucked them all up  to save coal plants.
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@3RU7AL
Democracies check corruption with renewed opportunities to reform. 

Russia is a Democracy. So is Venezuela. Claims to say a "rhetorical question" then answers with a false premise. 
Resorts to Ad Homs when called out.

Guy is a walking bag of lies.
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@3RU7AL
What nation is free from corruption?   White supremacist dictatorships like Putin's codify their corruption.  Democracies check corruption with renewed opportunities to reform.  Ukraine after voting in Zelensky is objectively less corrupt than any point since independence.  That is why Russia wants Zelensky dead- a democratic and free Ukraine- one that charges Russia free market prices for grain and free market rents for pipelines is destructive to Putin's supremacy.

"why did you lie?"

Gotem

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@3RU7AL
As a spokes-fibber from the Administrative Ministry of Hysteria explained: “It is absolutely vital that we ensure nobody starts hating the true oppressors or blaming our woes on the people who actually caused them because there is no room for that kind of extremism in this wonderful democratic oligarchy of ours, where every citizen and illegal invader is guaranteed the right to vote futilely for the people we select to ignore them. Thus popular hate-figures provide a valuable service and guarantee the survival of government as we know it.


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@3RU7AL
Putin is the modern Emanuel Goldstein. A fabricated enemy to keep corruption in power in America.

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Putin's price relief.
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@Double_R
Biden may not even be president in two years. Investors understand that.
Unfortunately, bad regulations on fossil fuel production are incredibly difficult to reverse once the government has a planned policy to end oil.

Regulations that will linger long after Biden leaves. Same thing happened to private investors in Nuclear Power.
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@TheUnderdog
The vast majority of new nuclear power plants are government funded.
That is the problem.
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@3RU7AL
More like bishops or knights. With limited power comes limited harm and corruption.
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@3RU7AL
Minarchy.
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@3RU7AL
fascism for everyone !!!!

Citation please.
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@ILikePie5
No one talks about Russian Russia Russia anymore except hard core progressive left wingers on the Internet like you...

Even CNN stopped lol. Now CNN just talks about preserving Ukrainian oligarchs, climate change hoaxes,  and Covid while debunking inflation.
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All great reasons as to why a chaotic Democracy of mob rule is inferior to accepted law and order.
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@thett3
What would the civil war be over..

Over the dramatic loss of the standard of living with no recourse at the ballot box.
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@Danielle
❤️❤️❤️
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