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If you can't see how Drumph manipulated the images coming out of Afghanistan then I can't help ya buddy.
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@drlebronski
Dude, your Orangemanbad needs some serious work. I suggest more late night viewing.
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@drlebronski
Data doesn't make Biden look good, but helicopter footage does.
And we all know since 2016 that optics are much more important than results.
You have to wonder how much money Drumph paid those guys to fall off the airplanes for a photo op?
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@drlebronski
There's plenty of footage of Taliban flying around in the Blackhawks.
Aren't you upset that there are not more? If the rich paid their fair share, more copter footage would be around to make Biden look good.
Biden fucked up by not taxing the rich.
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@drlebronski
How much are 30 Blackhawks worth? Did the rich pay their fair share to provide the Taliban with 30 Blackhawks, or could we have squeezed a few more Blackhawks out of the rich?
I think Biden did fine with 30 personally. A very good look for him just like killing the kids. Very Presidential.
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@drlebronski
"Joe Biden deserves credit for supplying the Taliban with 33 UH-60 Black Hawk helicopters which it took them 4-5 days to learn how to fly"
One has to wonder if the rich were paying their "fair share" if we couldn't have left 60 Blackhawks. This is just ridiculous.
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@Vader
“He (BIDEN) perfectly knows the matter. He is fully concentrated and knows what he wants to achieve. And he does it very shrewdly.”
-Vladimir Putin
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@ILikePie5
I don't think Biden has explained to independent voters why it was absolutely necessary to evacuate the military before the civilians.
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@thett3
Can you imagine your son being one of the last casualties in Afghanistan? I bet at least one of those 13 dead was in diapers or not even born when 9/11 happened. Hard to explain how thoroughly our ruling class has failed us,
One of the mothers of the 13 dead was banned for "hate speech" while grieving her loss on social media....
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@dfss9788
They were probably better off dead anyway seeing how things are going there.
Exactly!
It's like the Americans left there, they asked for it.
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@drlebronski
You're really bad at Orangemanbad. You're just asking to get cancelled.
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@drlebronski
LOL NOW YOU GIVE ANY SHITT ABOUT DRONE STRIKES AS SOOOOOOOON AS BIDEN IS ELECTED YOUR HILARIOUS!
I heard Drumph "instructed" Biden to launch a bomb into a residential area. Or at least one of his alter egos.
But it's still a great look for Biden. Trump really fucked this one up bad.
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I think more dead kids is exactly the image Biden needs right now.
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@whiteflame
Vanilla is honestly not the kind of claim you want to make at the start of DP1. There are claims that affect town deeply and should be mentioned here, but Vanillas generally want to keep themselves hidden as much as possible and provide some distraction from potential power roles. Essentially, at this stage, it would have been best to keep this secret.That being said, please, do not give your character claim.
Ok, I am vanilla.
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Relatives found the remains of one of the girls, Malika, in the rubble near their home on Monday. A family member told CNN that it was unclear whether Malika had been inside the vehicle or in the compound when the strike hit.
They were "an ordinary family," a brother of the one of those killed said. "We are not ISIS or Daesh and this was a family home -- where my brothers lived with their families."
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Ten members of one family -- including seven children -- are dead after a US drone strike targeting a vehicle in a residential neighborhood of Kabul.
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@949havoc
Comedy comes before tragedy.
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@949havoc
Most people aren't educated enough to invest for an inflationary period.
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@Athias
Consensus is always censorship of science to varying degrees. It's axiomatic, and history is rife with predictable examples.
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@FLRW
It is if you refuse to see the 1 mathematicians proof due to "feelings"
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@Wylted
all women are shallow though. It's built into the hypergamy genes.
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@Double_R
Slow down with the ad-homs sparky.
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@Reece101
If it feels bad, it's Trump.
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@ebuc
So you like the unsanctioned wars if a D does it and you hate withdrawals if a R does it.
Sounds like a farm animal.
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@ebuc
Obama did not create the Syrian mess.
He did. It's a matter of historical record. Syria would have been far better off without the unsanctioned military war and meddling there, prolonging the inevitable outcome of the civil war there and causing monumental suffering and death.
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@ebuc
It took Trump to clean up Obama's Syria.
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@ebuc
Following the publication on August 30 of the U.S. Government Assessment of the Syrian Government’s Use of Chemical Weapons on August 21, 2013, President Obama gave a speech in the White House Rose Garden on 31 August in which he announced that he would seek authorization from Congress before using American military forces to intervene in the Syrian civil war.[33][34] In the speech, he announced that he was "prepared to give that order," referring to ordering a strike on Syria.[33] Obama argued that it was necessary to intervene because the recent chemical weapons attack in Syria "risks making a mockery of the global prohibition on the use of chemicals weapons" and that it put U.S. regional allies that share a border with Syria in danger.[35] In his speech, Obama also said that, "while I believe I have the authority to carry out this military action without specific congressional authorization, I know that the country will be stronger if we take this course, and our actions will be even more effective."[35] Introduction of S.J. Res. 21 in the Senate soon followed.
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@Double_R
We’re not talking about science,
Thank you for the generous concession.
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@coal
Even Obama thought he was a dumbass.
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@ebuc
Have you accepted Biden as your lord and savior?
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@3RU7AL
OPERATION PAPERCLIP
lol...but the Nazi's were all emotion and heart!
All jokes aside, the most left leaning institutions in America produce far more gender studies "scientists" than STEM scientists. Especially compared to the rest of the non-Marxist world. It's pure delusion to think science is a product of politics by any metric. If anything, the greatest concentrations of actual science almost always come from apolitical environments where diverse thought is typically not constrained nor centrally managed. (those conducive environments rarely exist in the most politically polarized universities...)
Many of those Liberal universities wouldn't even be able to sustain STEM departments if they were not heavily subsidized by non-political foreigner enrollment.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/arthurherman/2018/09/10/americas-high-tech-stem-crisis/?sh=4a54dbc5f0a2
Americans think with feelings and then wonder why they can't do the most basic level of engineering math...
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@Athias
If a majority of people believe something it doesn’t make it true.
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@Athias
I really don't understand how people don't get that if 1 out of 10 EQUALLY qualified doctors disagrees, then whatever the the issue is, it ISNT SCIENCE...
You don't see 1 out of 10 doctors debating Einstein's laws....
"Finally, I would remind you to notice where the claim of consensus is invoked. Consensus is invoked only in situations where the science is not solid enough. Nobody says the consensus of scientists agrees that E=mc2. Nobody says the consensus is that the sun is 93 million miles away. It would never occur to anyone to speak that way."
"The notion of a monolithic “science,” meaning what scientists say, is pernicious and the notion of “scientific consensus” actively so. The route to knowledge is transparency in disagreement and openness in debate. The route to truth is the pluralist expression of conflicting views in which, often not as quickly as we might like, good ideas drive out bad. There is no room in this process for any notion of “scientific consensus.”"
It's not the 9 qualified doctors we need to rapidly bobble our heads at, it's the 1 EQUALLY qualified doctor that insists we hold up a minute that deserves our utmost attention and consideration.
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@thett3
I am 51 years old and I have never owned a credit card. ever. Now I am retired.
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@Reece101
The original argument is that it would be more likely that 9/10 doctors would be correct apposed to the one.
The studies are either repeatable or they are not repeatable. More or less correct does not apply to science. It either is or it is not.
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@thett3
I agree 100 percent, which is why I have mad respect for Double R who gives a clear picture of what the politics are of a right brained person actually are for the rest of us left brained people that tend to use logic over feelings. All without obfuscating (mostly) with the laziness of ad-homs.
I like to know what's in store for me.
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@ILikePie5
This entire exchange proves without a doubt why the left cannot be trusted with "science"
It appears that "might makes right" is the only logic necessary for them...
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@Double_R
So to be clear, you believe that anytime you follow what a majority of experts in a given field conclude, you are more likely to be wrong and subsequently suffer the consequences for it. Is that correct?
Anytime I believe there's a reason to avoid checking the facts and data, I am more likely to be wrong, regardless of what the majority thinks.
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@Reece101
You can’t directly argue against the original argument, so you have to make your own odds which aren’t as black and white.
I just want to see if there is a line you would draw and actually look at data and question the majority.
From your response it seems you aren't as committed to your original axiom.
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I remember Wylted's answer to the majority doctor question as thus: it's likely that the minority thought out of a group of professionals is more likely to be closer to truth as the malus of being in the minority necessitates a more rigorous proof to counter. It's far easier to agree with the majority where factual proof wouldn't be scrutinized as much.
That's a compelling enough observation to be skeptical and take a hard critical look at the data before trusting the majority blindly.
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@Reece101
We’re still specifically talking about professional medical advice, correct?
No I am calling out your ridiculous praxis in disregarding the minority 4 out of 10 doctors in a robotic fashion.
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@Reece101
Let’s just get straight to the point. You think you’re more intelligent than most doctors, correct?
Let's put it this way. Pretend you are a robot that follows consensus 100% of the time.
So say 6 doctors have one position and 4 have another position. As a robot, you agree with the 6 doctors without hesitation or thought, basically believing without any critical thought process that they are more intelligent than the other 4 doctors, and as an extension, You are smarter than the other 4 doctors.
Outrageous.
To think a person is more intelligent than some doctors that don't follow the popular crowd. Never looking at one iota of science or data. Just declaring by fiat and mob rule.
So much for the enlightenment era, we can go back to chanting accepting mantras to the majority authority like the middle ages. Who needs science anyway when we have google?
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