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@thett3
I love to note that almost all people submitting diatribes denouncing technology use a computer to create their documents.
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@badger
In a world of castrated men, the needle dick is king.
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@thett3
We don't really have a functioning "liberal" party since both parties want bigger government control and more authority behind them.
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@sadolite
If you have time you should watch the 1st 5 minutes of this.
Australians have no filter.
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@sadolite
Legal claims are worthless without the backing of a gun.
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@thett3
I'm saying he came this site with a lot of self entitlement and abused a lot of members calling them liars and cowards and such. It's unlikely you are going to tell him anything he would choose to listen to rationally. That's not entirely a "youth" problem; it's more towards a complete lack of awareness about the consequences of being toxic to people while trying to learn with a mutual exchange of ideas. Many if not most young people understand at least the basic rules of etiquette.
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@thett3
His posts are riddled with the "you" "me" and "I" pronouns.
Expecting a rational discourse discussing ideas over attacking a person isn't likely.
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@Ramshutu
I’m also, not arguing that fear is the most substantial motivator behind risk vs reward in general,
I agree with this. Fear isn't a "motivating force" because fear isn't the "reward" component in day to day risk/reward calculations. Although it is abundantly clear that improper levels of fear (too high OR too low) will cause irrational calculations.
but in specific terms of politics - which I clarified and explained extensively in the posts you just ignored.
Agree that it IS the motivating force in politics because successful politicians reward fear.
“You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. It provides the opportunity to do things that were not possible to do before.”
-Rahm Emanuel
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@Ramshutu
The problem is not that are beliefs are arbitrary, it’s that almost no one can rationalize anything properly or even recognize the way their emotions control their reasoning.
More accurately, if you don't understand the vestigial biological impulses and do not recognize how emotions influence choice, then it is impossible to make a rational choice. We all have essentially the same DNA makeup of the caveman with all the vestigial instincts in a world where technology has changed thousands of times faster than biological evolution. Not recognizing that makes it impossible to rationally adapt to the new environment.
We have technology that allows women to take on masculine roles and men to take on feminine roles, but our primal caveman brain still screams for something else, and then we wonder why men are not chemically attracted to masculine women or why women are not chemically attracted to beta males.
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in a lot of cases people do things because they want more power.
That's simply the reward side of the risk-reward calculation. Fear is always going to be the limiting factor in EVERY case.
There are countless examples where people with too little fear came into wealth or power suddenly and then destroyed themselves because their risk-reward calculations were off of reality.
Athletes and lottery winners that come into wealth quickly do not have the fears learned first hand of what it is like to go bankrupt or lose money, so they make poor choices with no fears and lose it all.
It's insanely important to calibrate your fears to reality if you want to hang on to your rewards. Too little or too much means you won't get any reward/power.
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@Ramshutu
This is highly enlightening, because it explains why you should try rationalize your learned biological fears by comparing it to the fears of everyone else in order to make more accurate risk-reward assessments.
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@bmdrocks21
I am really happy Ramshutu and Coal are making a comeback tour on DART politics. They are very good at explaining complex problems by breaking down the components and addressing them one by one instead of obfuscating.
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@coal
If wars didn't have consequences, there could be no periods of peace....ever...
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@Ramshutu
If you can think of a better name for the subtle learned behaviours triggers that push us to want to avoid certain actions that lead to perceived negative consequences than “fear” than knock yourself out and use that instead.
I think risk-assessment definitely has a biological chemical fear component to it.
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It's so laughable. Nowhere is the concentration of wealth greatest than in Washington DC. The government today holds the vast majority of capital in this country to the tune of trillions of dollars a year in confiscated income and the ownership of every government industry and federal land. You can even go so far as to say the government effectively owns all land within American borders if you go by the strict interpretation of jurisdiction.
Even If the absurd notion that capitalism causes debt was true, then there is only one place to liberate the vast majority of capital. Washington DC.
Give it all back to the people.
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@badger
What's the point of a surplus when your people are hungry?
America has an obesity problem. Inflation and deficit spending is the only cure.
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No one will have any money to buy anything other than what you need to survive.
Then don't invest in American dollars that will inevitably be worthless. Invest in the things Soros is investing in since Washington DC and Soros have officially won the war.
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@bmdrocks21
This kind of thinking is very indicative of having never paid taxes, oneself
Debt is a spend-too-much problem, not a produce-too-much problem.
Thank you Washington DC.
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@sadolite
"just follow where the people with Capital go." Uh economic collapse means wiping out accumulated wealth. What usually follows based on history is everyone is given a paltry sum of money and those who own property keep it. What property owners do with that property is anyone's guess. Most of it will be liquidated for pennies on the dollar of its last value before the collapse. Those who base their wealth and capital on non-hard assets will be penniless. This might work for a few hundred people.
Exactly. If your assets are in real estate while America balkanizes itself into fractured nations, you are playing the game wrong.
Just do what the people of Capital do. Liquify and move on.
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@sadolite
No it won't.
just follow where the people with Capital go. Capital is borderless.
George Soros knows how to fleece a sheep.
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@sadolite
America dropped 3 ranks in ranked Economic freedom among nations in the past 2 years. I would strongly suggest making an exit plan.
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Uuuh - let's pretend the debt isn't caused by the concentration of wealth and political exploitation by Washington DC politicians in America... yup, let's just pretend those aren't the direct cause of the debt.
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Society hasn’t collapsed
Societies are not global, regardless of the Orangemanbad policies you worship from unvetted "experts"
I have already learned the hedge game Soros plays fast and loose with. It's simple, you elect politicians that destroy the economy, and then you bet AGAINST America by shorting the market. You win, all the political retards listening to the experts lose.
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@sadolite
This is how the Russians have already won the war.
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@Double_R
Aside what what an asshole that makes you... do you really think your life will improve while society collapses?
Mine already has. I have made a ton of money in the last year taking unemployment money and investing it in hedge funds and crypto knowing the USA has royally and permanently fucked itself with the past 4 years of Orangemanbad and the absolute destruction of the USA economy just to save CDC and WHO assets. What the government did to kids and the middle class with the needless lockdowns was criminal, but inevitable since half the country was retarded enough to trust the government with the fucked up Orangemanbad policies. Fauci getting on TV now to say "oops" isn't going to fix anything at this point.
I have my passport ready and an exit plan.
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@Dr.Franklin
Exactly. USA doesn't involve itself with the UK's struggle with the IRA...why is Israel different? Oh yeah...oil...
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the issue is right now neither wants to negotiate.
Because the PLO will only tolerate a one-state solution. Under their terms which means NO jews allowed.
Fuck the PLO.
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How does your one-state solution handle the literal physical land space and human population in West Bank and Gaza?
Probably better than the one-state solution the PLO proposes.
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The point is that Palestine is much more "Apartheid" than Israel since their mission is the extermination of all Jewish culture with no room for any culture but their own.
Not saying that it's a bad thing to assert the dominance of your culture though, just saying you have a really warped view of the reality of the situation.
Japan currently has a contemptuous view of outsiders, having had a long period of cultural isolationism that ended 150 years ago. Japan has little tolerance today for Gaijin and fully expects all outsiders to conform. 98% of all people in Japan are culturally Japanese with no cultural ghettoes anywhere in Japan at all. Japan is probably the most homogenous cultural nation on the entire planet.
Norway has intense social pressures to have every person who immigrates conform to Janteloven culture. Americans with their ambitions are seriously frowned upon.
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They are fundamentally an apartheid state, there is absolutely no exaggeration in stating that.
So what? Most of the world can be considered Apartheid by your definition. Especially China, Japan, and Norway who are absolutely culturally homogenous with no tolerance for deviance. The windmills you tilt at and hills you choose to die on are funny and tragic as hell.
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@RM it's really easy to throw stones when radicals in one country throw soup cans and other radicals across the globe throw Qassam Rockets
Your laughable attempts to equivocate morality are pathetic at best, devious at worst.
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In some ways, Israel is a product of its environment. If your culture isn't fanatical to some degree in the Middle East, you will be washed aside in a sea of blood and obscurity.
It's really easy to throw stones in America that has already tamed the savages.
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@n8nrgmi
do you agree that non-gun murders *should* be wildly out of control if this is just a bad person problem, and not a gun problem too?
The Democrats don't even know what a bad person really is. They think a cosplay shaman is the worst bad guy ever since Hitler and MS-13 are basically misunderstood oppressed brown people that deserve charity instead of racial slurs like "animals"
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@dustryder
I should remind you that local ordinances do not supersede state-level laws.
Neither do most state laws restrict what local cities can do to their people. Take Chaz/Chop or Floyd Square for examples on how locals can fuck it all up.
Most state laws can't stop Marxist meglomaniacs from driving a city into the gorund.
A state constitution could though.
No sane person with the means would willingly choose to live outside a gated community in a Democrat dystopian city.
Glad you agree.
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@dustryder
Oddly enough places with more concentrations of people also tend to be more liberal in ideology
Sheep do tend to clump up in nature.
and latching on random correlations (what greyparrot has done).
It's not random. That correlation has been valid for decades. If you defund the police and reward criminals, the unintended consequence is more crime and murders, regardless of how many gun-free zones you allocate. No sane person with the means would willingly choose to live outside a gated community in a Democrat dystopian city.
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@fauxlaw
The money a laborer loses from capitalism purchases the security of not having to pay the consequences of a failed product of said labor.
That's the ONLY reason people accept jobs and wages instead of taking on the responsibility of a small business loan. There is a cost and a very real risk to owning the products of your labor. You also own the consequences.
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@dustryder
Dystopian Democrat cities are the undisputed concentrated outliers. Crime is courted on a local level with fucked up liberal policies with no care for consequences, and certainly not on the State wide level.
Do you live in a dystopian city run by Marxist policies? What's the climate like? I bet you are told it is just fine.
Most likely though like many fucked up social justice leftards, most likely live in a gated community ignorant of everything happening nearby.
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@bmdrocks21
Assault hands...
Now you are just asking for more violence in hands-free zones as criminals with hands will take over.
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@fauxlaw
I can't believe you asked for her consent to be violent with her. What if she said yes and she was into that?
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@ILikePie5
@n8nrgmi
this thread has a burnt smell about it.
Like I said before, gun murders in America are most closely correlated to the number of years a Democrat has been in absolute control of a city. The longer a Democrat has been in power, the higher are your chances for dying from a gun in that city, regardless of the number of guns actually present in said city.
The risk is mostly confined to the urban areas of Democrat dystopias. More people get shot every month in Chicago than kids die from school shootings in a decade.
About 80% of the worst murder cites are not only run by Democrats but they are also run EXCLUSIVELY by Democrats, not just recently taken over for a short period by an opposing ideology.
Who run Murdertown?
Democrat run bartertown.
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@ILikePie5
Who wants to tell him more people died by stabbings than by rifles.
Topkek.
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@n8nrgmi
-japan. they literally have barely any murders, and barely any guns. they have a rigorous process for allowing guns
Japan is culturally homogenous. Which culture do you want to make exclusive and dominant in America so that there are no more tribal wars in the streets? Hopefully not European or British since it's objectively the worst and most permissive culture.
Might I suggest Chinese culture as they have shown exactly how to deal with minority cultures and how to destroy any chance of domestic conflict festering in the streets.
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@badger
Like the rest of the world? Sure.
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@badger
The problem is America has way too many toys and not enough accountability. It's a real pitri dish of primal urges and survival of the fittest in action.
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@n8nrgmi
Crime is mostly a Democrat problem.
The best way to be killed by a criminal is to vote for a Democrat and then choose to live in the city afterwards. Every city run by Democrats is a shooting gallery for criminals.
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