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Allowing an incompetent person to buy a presidency is the issue....Whosever that might be.
Are you saying HRC is incompetent?
She certainly tried to buy it two to one.
And at least HRC could string a coherent statement together.
Too bad competent people cannot purchase the election then.
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@zedvictor4
These wealthy people really should be required to sit exams before they attempt to buy the ultimate position of power and responsibility.
Which question did HRC get wrong when she outspent DJT two to one in 2016?
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@Death23
It's worse than that for me. I voted in 2016 thinking an outsider politician could kick sand in the face of Washington DC elites with no bad consequences. The end result was 4 years' worth of impeachments and investigations, a concerted effort of mockingbird media to derail every policy, and zero cooperation on any legislation.
This 2020 election didn't matter. Washington DC won no matter what.
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@Death23
Me either. I'm one of the rare few that didn't vote in an election where more people than ever voted.
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@n8nrgmi
why wouldn't they just eat the costs, generally?
You should direct that question to the 50% of startup businesses that fail within 5 years.
Explain to them that there is an infinite amount of costs that they can absorb.
prices are set by supply and demand. not labor costs.
Labor costs lower the supply which raises the prices due to scarcity.
Economics 101.
a big mac costs about the same everywhere,
Have you ever bought one at an Airport?
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solar and windmills are cheaper than nuclear.
Just wait till the Fossil Fuel lobbies push for regulations against solar. They don't have to right now though since most consumers hate solar. Nimby has also eliminated windmill competition for fossil fuel lobbies so no regulation on windmills are needed yet.
The free market is just taking the path of least resistance,
We haven't had a free market since FDR started the age of lobbied crony regulations.
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@n8nrgmi
What would really speed up the free market would be a rollback to 1970's regulations on nuclear plants since every nuclear plant built around 1970 has had historical fantastic success with no fatalities. And it didn't take billions of dollars or 10 years either.
Good luck pushing THAT past the fossil fuel lobby.
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@n8nrgmi
Did you know that a fossil fuel derivative Kerosene was promoted as saving the environment? It's true, many producers weaned the American consumer off of whale oil by showing how it burned cleaner and saved whale lives.
The US government never had to subsidize Rockefeller.
They don't have to subsidize Elon Musk either, just get a more believable message than that BULSHIT you hear on CNN.
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@n8nrgmi
let the free market decide
It already has. People would rather individually choose to drive cheap fossil fuel cars than believe the world is going to end when AOC says it will.
Maybe if you joined AOC's propaganda team then more people will choose alternatives.
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@n8nrgmi
You first. Go buy an electric car and save the planet.
You will be helping to lower prices on alternative energy by showing people how profitable it is to sell electric cars to you.
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@3RU7AL
I found it interesting that Milton Friedman was in FAVOR of environmental regulations.
He was never for NO REGULATIONS.
He was always for sensible regulations, not sweeping broad ones written up by Federal Lobbies that pick winners and losers depending on who can squeeze the politician the most.
It's really sad because most legislation is written by those lobbies directly or indirectly, not the Politician.
You really don't think Pelosi wrote all 10,000 pages of Obamacare do you?
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@drafterman
"You're argument is wrong because you're stupid." Is an ad hominem attack."You're stupid." Isn't an ad hominem attack.Heck:"You're argument is wrong and you're stupid." Isn't an ad hominem attack either
You're misuse is an ad hominem attack on Gramma
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@3RU7AL
My ad hom was more directed at your expertise rather than your character. Regardless, it was an indirect appeal to authority or lack thereof rather than addressing the flaws in your assessment.
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@3RU7AL
I know this dialogue and exchange is hard to follow, but try to understand the sweeping opportunity costs when the government denies the free consent of 2 parties to engage in a private contract of trade that harms nobody outside of those 2 parties.
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@3RU7AL
If you hear Freidman's take on bad actors in a free market, you will see how these cases are severe outliers and not the norm.
You also understand that Federal "one size fits all" regulations generally cause much more harm than good in the final analysis. Pay special attention to the problems with the FDA and how Doctors are not allowed to have the same life-saving drugs that other countries have access to. Milton's point is yes, a few lives were saved because a few outlier drugs were kept off the shelves, but the cost of those sweeping overbroad regulations also kept a much larger amount of GOOD drugs off the shelf. Local regulations and local tort law are often times MUCH better tools to deal with fringe outliers and bad actors than sweeping Federal legislation.
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@ethang5
It should be set just high enough to disenfranchise the low skilled labor competing for union jobs so that Labor Unions can set artificial monopoly prices on labor, which will hasten the robot takeover of society while reducing job creation and productivity, all in one fell swoop.
Business as usual in Crony America.
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@3RU7AL
“Philanthropy is. . . greatly overrated. A pain in the gut is not sympathy for the underprivileged, but the result of eating a green apple; the philanthropist gives to ease his own pain.”
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@3RU7AL
Well, I am sorry if I questioned your expertise in the realm of personal risk then. Please accept my apology and continue.
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@3RU7AL
I haven't attacked you. I just question your sincerity about personal risk.
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@3RU7AL
The "risk" of a business "failing" is not the same type of risk as gross bodily injury.
Neither is it the same as choosing both risks. Don't pretend like you know what it is like to lose everything because the government mandated that you must take your own risks for finding a buyer for your products.
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@HistoryBuff
you have it backwards. They are telling employers they cannot exploit desperate people to further enhance their own profits.
So the desperate people get zero dollars, because employers are not mandated to provide them a job.
As I said, Washington DC doesn't care about desperate people because they are not part of the crony lobby system.
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@3RU7AL
Have you ever found no buyer for your labor? If not, then you can stop talking as if you know what it is like.
A very real reason for businesses failing is an inability to find buyers for the products of someone else's paid labor.
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@3RU7AL
Do you really and truly consider coal mining "risk free"?
Imagine if a coal miner found no buyers for his coal. That's a much higher risk than most would want to take on in addition to the health risks.
Being paid ZERO DOLLARS for your labor is a very real possibility as a self-employed person.
Just like the guy that walks out of the pawnshop. It's a very real possibility he will find no buyers for his product.
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@3RU7AL
Now I know your joking.
Not at all. You take on NONE of the risks your employer takes on. How do you think the employer gets compensated for that?
What is a worker willing to pay to avoid the risk of not being able to get someone to trade his product for something valuable? Do you really think people are forced to take your labor products? That's Marxism if you think that.
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@3RU7AL
@HistoryBuff
of course not. Washington is not telling an employer how much they should pay their employee. They are telling them the minimum that they can pay their employee.
They are telling employers that they MUST DISCRIMINATE against employees who would agree to work for less. Because Washington DC does not give a fuck about those people. They care about their union lobby base first and foremost.
Did you know that minimum wage is an idea supported by big trade unions and big labor unions as the primal method to destroy the competition? The minimum wage is the final incarnation of crony politics in action.
Friedman called it an "Unholy Coalition"
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@3RU7AL
The vast majority of Americans choose to take the risk-free option as there are more wage jobs than self-employed people. If the business fails due to incompetence like thinking they need to run as a charity, then the workers are shielded from the loss. Risk-free. And the way they have to pay for that insurance is by producing more than they are paid.
It's a mutually beneficial trade that Marxists LOVE to fuck up with stupid unworkable ideas.
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@HistoryBuff
there is no such things as an "artificial wage".
Then why not 100 dollars an hour? If it isn't an artificial wage, it surely is an arbitrary artificial wage set by elite people that have absolutely nothing to do with the mutually beneficial trade between employer and employee.
Imagine if you went to get gas and the law says you have to arbitrarily buy 15 gallons of gas, whether your car can hold it or not. It's the same thing. You have absolutely no ability to form your own contract with the gas station. That's tyranny. Not freedom.
Job wages are not set by employer OR employee alone.
It's a mutually agreed on number, not a number set artificially by some Washington DC elite.
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@3RU7AL
Please explain to me how an economy is supposed to function (even hypothetically) with 100% self-employment.
You take on all the risks of trading your labor. Simple. You take personal loans to get tools you need and you take on all the risks. If you fuck up and set a price too high since you don't have the "EVIL CEO" to blame the fuckup on, then you pay the price.
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@3RU7AL
They need people to do jobs for very little money so they can funnel more cash to their CEO and investors.
Have you ever seen the show Pawn Stars? Everyone makes a choice when deciding how to trade their labor for things of value.
They can either take a risk-free offer from the Pawnshop and let the Pawnshop take on all the risk, or you can walk out of the store and take the personal risk yourself.
The vast majority of Americans choose to take the risk-free option as there are more wage jobs than self-employed people. If the business fails due to incompetence like thinking they need to run as a charity, then the workers are shielded from the loss. Risk-free. And the way they have to pay for that insurance is by producing more than they are paid.
It's a mutually beneficial trade that Marxists LOVE to fuck up with stupid unworkable ideas.
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@3RU7AL
They need people to do jobs for very little money so they can funnel more cash to their CEO and investors.
They don't need shit workers that produce less than what the employer invests in them. That's how businesses fail.
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do you believe that high paying jobs would magically appear?
Supply and demand. If people are allowed to invest without Libtard restrictions, then jobs are created. If not, then jobs are destroyed along with the opportunities. The "magic" comes from motivated people allowed to invest and take a risk on each other.
You are not one of those Marxist fanatics that believe jobs are a right and not a privilege, are you?
They need people to do jobs for very little money so they can funnel more cash to their CEO and investors.
Most of the jobs are now done by robots since Libtards think it's a great idea to set an artificial wage that destroys jobs and creates robots.
Artificial wages creates jobs for artificial robots. Good job.
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@3RU7AL
@Dr.Franklin
@HistoryBuff
If you are not prepared to invest in yourself to have the ability to produce more than the minimum wage, then you can't and really shouldn't expect an employer to take a risk and invest in you either. American economics is run on the mutual self-interests of consumers and investors, not charity.
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@HistoryBuff
The policies he enacted were no different that any swamp creature republican.
That's too bad that you can't understand why establishment Republicans hated Trump so much.
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@HistoryBuff
you care about trump don't you?
Absolutely not. He is just a convenient donkey that happened to be the enemy of my enemy. The establishment DC.
so in your world if the options are starve because companies won't pay a wage you can survive on, or stave because you can't find a job, we should do absolutely nothing?
When there are no jobs, everyone starves. See Venezuela.
free would imply you don't have to pay for it.
The poor pay little to no taxes. You already know this
America is one of those countries that provides emergency care when you have a heart attack, then bankrupts you for needing emergency care.
The poor don't have to pay for emergency care. You should know this. I actually got a waiver for a 1000+ dollar emergency visit because I was in between health care coverages and they sent me a bill for it. I simply gave them an income statement, and they waived the fee. You have absolutely no idea what the fuck you are talking about. Typical cloistered indoctrinated Marxist.
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@Dr.Franklin
this is what "unity" looks like. Forced assimilation into a Marxist regime.
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@Dr.Franklin
You should go to CNN's website and type "Covid deaths" in the search bar and see the difference between the pre-Jan 21 articles and post-Jan 21 articles.
Fucked up state-run media.
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@HistoryBuff
Why are you pretending like it is solely a democratic one?
Why are you pretending that I care about establishment DC Republicans?
so that corporations can't exploit people by making people work for a wage they can't live on anyway.
Cause living on a 0% wage when there is no job is so much better. If you are not prepared to invest in yourself to have the ability to produce more than the minimum wage, then you can't and really shouldn't expect an employer to take a risk and invest in you either. American economics is run on the mutual self-interests of consumers and investors, not charity.
forcing the government to subsidize these company's pay rolls by providing services to keep their impoverished workers alive, food stamps etc.
There is no part of the Constitution that requires the government to provide charitable food to Americans simply for breathing American air. You're just upset that some people have traded in that charity to get an entry-level job where they would have no job without government charity, and a robot would be doing the job or someone more motivated to invest in themselves.
How's that government charity working out for Venezuela?
Although I feel like government charity is a misnomer since nobody volunteers to pay taxes, and all people are not happy with how taxes spent on the poor help perpetuate the behavior and lifestyle choices of the poor that keep them perpetually unproductive and unemployable by removing the most driving Maslownian incentive to invest in yourself, namely, survival. It's a big reason why liberal run cities are meccas for unproductive homeless. Being a purposeless drug addict normally means at some point, you face an individual lifestyle choice between institutionalization, death, or rehabilitation unless of course, a liberal run city can sustain you with life support so you can continue leeching off of productive society until your body finally gives out.
America is one of those weird countries that provides free food to poor people and also free emergency care when they have a heart attack due to obesity. So compassionate.
It's funny actually when the Venezuelan economy crashed to see so many "artists" on the street with investigative journalism who had no clue about basic food production since they never had any incentive to invest in themselves.
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@sadolite
Then be prepared to be labeled as a racist or a fascist for not embracing all cultures.
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@fauxlaw
Was your poem condescending enough for an inauguration?
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@zedvictor4
There's plenty of blame to go around for the unreasonable lockdowns; unfortunately, Americans are not allowed to criticize the people at fault, because a threat to those people is a threat to democracy, and you will be labeled a treasonous traitor, or worse. You could be labeled with a toe tag as the DC elites casually place a bullet in your neck.
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@HistoryBuff
slashing protections for poor people
Oh, you mean protecting poor people by flooding the job market with 3rd world country labor for the American poor to compete with while also removing entry-level jobs with a federally mandated minimum wage? Do you mean those kinds of protections for the poor?
I'd hate to see what hurting the poor would look like to a libtard.
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@zedvictor4
Right. Cause a 2-year lockdown doesn't affect me at all. Perhaps you enjoy the brutality of the state?
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@Dr.Franklin
with the ballot box,
2020 proves you can't dispute the results without severe consequences, so democracy is dead atm.
Just beg for mercy, it's the only option at this point.
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@n8nrgmi
So DC can have a perpetual fall guy when policies don't work? You're just asking DC to do whatever they want to as long as it gets them votes and they can blame someone else (a filibuster) for policy mistakes. This is why establishment Republicans are so fucked up. Pretend like they are doing something knowing a filibuster will save their ass from being called out for not doing anything productive for Americans while they only care about themselves. It's a game DC has played far too long.
ZERO accountability.
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@n8nrgmi
How else can you hold people accountable? Do you have a better idea?
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@n8nrgmi
I'm okay with abolishing the filibuster as long as the controlling party gets 100% of the blame for the predictable fuckups of misguided policies with no understanding whatsoever of the consequences of the policies, such as the inevitable loss of entry-level jobs with an artificial wage mandate. Or the loss of low skill jobs when poor people have to compete with immigrants from 3rd world nations.
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@HistoryBuff
over 400,000 americans are dead from covid.
Good luck getting current Covid death figures from CNN since CNN has declared an internal ban on scaring the public with rolling covid death counts now that the proper person is in control of Washington DC.
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