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@Username
I reject the assertion that only governments are capable of tyranny or authoritarianism, as that is completely absurd and unsupported.

there is only one institution in the USA that can legally take things from you and can ultimately use a gun to force you to comply.
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I guarantee you that living in america without a minimum wage is 10x better than living in Honduras or some impoverished country in Africa/south america.

So what? Poor Americans suffer when slave labor is imported illegally across the border. It's not even disputable.


(by the way, I absolutely LOVE the left-wing media sources like this 2015 article on this issue before 2016 turned them all into propaganda outlets instead of news agencies.)

Another one:

and another


What did the poor Americans ever do to deserve such a fucked up policy from the radical left?

The same leftist party that advocates for more illegal labor is the same one that wants us to return to the time where we outsourced most of our manufacturing jobs to China.

Enough with the party that does not give a fuck about the poor Americans.

“What right-wing people in this country would love is an open-border policy,” Sanders said in an interview with Vox. “Bring in all kinds of people, work for $2 or $3 an hour, that would be great for them. I don’t believe in that. I think we have to raise wages in this country.” Even the famously cosmopolitan Barack Obama, in his 2006 book, The Audacity of Hope, lamented, “When I see Mexican flags waved at pro-immigration demonstrations, I sometimes feel a flush of patriotic resentment. When I’m forced to use a translator to communicate with the guy fixing my car, I feel a certain frustration.”

-2015 Bernie Sanders

Do you know what youth unemployment is in the United States of America today? If you're a white high school graduate, it's 33 percent, Hispanic 36 percent, African American 51 percent. You think we should open the borders and bring in a lot of low-wage workers, or do you think maybe we should try to get jobs for those kids?
I think from a moral responsibility we've got to work with the rest of the industrialized world to address the problems of international poverty, but you don't do that by making people in this country even poorer.

-2015 Bernie Sanders

What party changed again?
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@Vader
Yeah, unfortunately, the courts don't see it that way. Bringing a gun to a knife fight is still not illegal.

But by all means, continue supporting street justice.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
You remember the leftist chant "white silence is violence?"

What about Joe Biden's silence on all these riots???


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@TheDredPriateRoberts
It's funny how the media is spinning people having guns as terrorists for having guns but the "peaceful protestors" beating the shit out of others and sometimes killing people without a gun is just fine.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts

Democrats intimidating political opposition since 2016. Putin is pleased.

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Kyle Rittenhouse
Eh who has time for courts in 2020? Let's go burn stuff.
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@ILikePie5
Im really curious how Ragnar blocked a role that isn't blockable.
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@Username
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@Username
Democrats don't support slave labor, which is why they want to raise the minimum wage

Minimum wage does not apply to illegal migrant labor and the left supports that.
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@Username
What do you think will happen if your employer tells you to do something and you don't do it? 

Then you have made a choice. That is not force. What happens when you tell your employer that you want something and he does not give it to you?
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@Username
Over time, ideologies of both parties have basically switched. 

To importing slave labor composed of illegal migrants? Some switch.
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@Username
like slavery for example

The democrats legalized slavery and fought a war to keep it.
Democrats also currently support illegal slave labor across the Mexican border.
How is slavery right wing again?

I guess if you want to say the Democrats are right-wing then it would all finally make sense.

Private sectors can force you to do things...

How? Examples?
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@lady3keys
And if religion didn't spend so much time...

Seems like morality isn't really that big of a deal then.
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Biden was a "strict" catholic.  I said he was a "faithful" catholic.

I was unaware there was a difference.
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@lady3keys
  Most abortion laws only allow abortion within the first 3 months.  And Biden is faithfully catholic.   He supports the "right to choose"

I was unaware the Pope condoned 1st trimester abortions.

"Is it licit to eliminate a human life to solve a problem?... Is it licit to hire a hitman to solve a problem?"
"It is not lawful. Never, ever eliminate a human life or hire a hitman to solve a problem,"

-Pope Francis

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@Pattern
ok.
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@lady3keys
That is most definitely NOT what Trump said.  And he would never "protect a victim".  He would be taking cover, not helping others (even as a regular citizen).  That is just who he is (self-interest first).

He did prison reform so this point is meaningless.
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@lady3keys
We came here as a serf class.

Most of your forebearers came to a country that did not have a state-managed welfare system in place to be abused by illegal invaders. 

The poem on the statue of liberty was written at a time in American history where people seeking citizenship had to prove they could take care of themselves, or go back where they came from.
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@lady3keys
I think Trump should respect congressional subpoenas,

So you are saying Trump isn't allowed to follow the rule of law and ask the Courts for a decision?
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@bmdrocks21
Is it good and just to allow an illegal serf class to come here and work for slave wages, while simultaneously stealing jobs, reducing wages, and worsening working conditions for domestic workers? No, I'd argue that isn't very moral, so let's get a wall to stop illegal immigration.

It's absolutely immoral to agree to a state-managed welfare system while not vetting the people who collect it by allowing anyone on the planet to partake in the taxpaid trust fund set aside explicitly for needy Americans.

Nobody agreed to pay for food and healthcare for the planet. America represents 4% of the world population. That's immoral to give the other 96% a pass for bad policies, lawlessness, and low economic freedom.
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@WaterPhoenix
How many games do you see roleblocker as town as opposed to scum roleblocker?
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@Pattern
How many games do you see roleblocker as town as opposed to scum roleblocker?
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@MisterChris
I unvoted speed when he had 4 votes on him but Supa didnt count it post 644
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I dont trust roleblocker as a town-role

VTL RAGNAR
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@ILikePie5
Why does your votecount say you are voting for yourself?
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post #644
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Also I complained to Supa that he did not count my Unvote on speed but whatevs

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Last game I was weak hider, I did not hide behind anyone since it served no utility and nobody asked me to check people for scum affiliation.
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Very interesting Ragnar and Oro know for sure That1 was not the nightkill.

Am I missing something?
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@oromagi
Because speed's role was far more powerful than mine, and you guys were going to lynch me anyway due to a shaky justification from Supa.
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@ILikePie5
also why didnt you guys let me track speed??
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@ILikePie5
Ragnar visited you
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Hagia Sophia
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@zedvictor4
Fuck em
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@lady3keys
He said he could "stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody" and still retain all his supporters.  That is why I am so confused.

If he shot an Antifa terrorist and protected a victim on 5th Avenue, I would support that.
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@Username
I oppose unjust wealth.

Can you list some examples? I hear the term economic justice a lot lately.
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@Username
Women have entered the workforce en masse, and are participating at levels approaching or exceeding equality in many of the domains that were male majority prior to the 1960s

Yes but the article clearly states they don't enter the same kinds of work equally. No equal outcomes.

Men continue to dominate the high risk and thing-oriented fields while women overwhelmingly dominate the low risk and people-oriented fields in nations with equal opportunities.


“As I read through the report, in so many ways I connected the findings with my own experiences,” says Michele Meyer-Shipp, KPMG’s Chief Diversity Officer. “I, like many women, was taught growing up that if you work really hard you’ll be successful.

I was never explicitly taught that there was more to it – like speaking up and taking risk.”


Higher levels of testosterone are associated with a greater appetite for risk in women. The link between risk aversion and testosterone predicted career choice: individuals who were high in testosterone and low in risk aversion chose riskier careers in finance.
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@sadolite
Well said. It's the elites in government that hold the real power backed by guns. Hard-working people can only hope to bribe the powerful elites in DC for any relief from government oppression and tyranny.

It's just too bad the establishments in both parties support that hierarchy, making this entire thread pointless.
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Your LEAST favorite Bible Story?
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@Castin
Eh, the bish incident really turned me off the site for a while.

i still miss Bish.
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@Username
It increases equal opportunity while manifesting unequal outcomes trending up, according to the study.
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@zedvictor4
Yeah, fuck the Kurds.
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@bmdrocks21
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other.

Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

A true Christian would not vote for anyone but God.
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@bmdrocks21
Didn't the Pope say at one point that the USA should be obligated to support the rest of the world?
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Cost of Living Red vs Blue States
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@MisterChris
Yes, you have to look at migration patterns and not wealth numbers to see which states are performing well.

It's the only metric that shows whether the cost of living is artificially inflated to a noticeable degree by government policies in an area or not.
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What are right-wing/conservative politics if not the preservation of social heirarchy?
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@zedvictor4
The founding Fathers would be completely out of their depth in today's society...The same principles just do not apply today.

Tyrrany will be with us for all the ages until we genetically engineer it out of our DNA.
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Jordan Peterson examined countries that tried to eliminate gender hierarchy. The results from scientific data from Scandinavian countries showed that as societies become more gender-equal in their social and political policies, men and women become more different in certain aspects, rather than more similar.


Had you asked any group of social scientists — left-wing, centrist, conservative (if you could find them) — 30 years ago “Will egalitarian social policies in wealthy countries produce men and women who are more similar or more different?” the majority would have certainly said, “more similar.” And, to some degree, that has happened. Women have entered the workforce en masse, and are participating at levels approaching or exceeding equality in many of the domains that were male majority prior to the 1960s. But …

And this is a major but.

We seem to have reached the point of diminishing, or even reversing returns. Over the last five decades or so, psychologists have aggregated great numbers of descriptions of personality traits, using adjectives, phrases, and sentences, throwing virtually every descriptor contained in human language into the mix, in a remarkably atheoretical manner. The method? Describe people every which way imaginable, and then use large samples and powerful statistics to sort out the resulting mess. The results? Something approaching a consensus among psychologists expert in measurement, known as psychometricians (or, less technically, personality psychologists). The latter happens to be my field, in addition to clinical psychology. When you ask thousands of people hundreds of questions (or ask them to rate themselves using descriptive adjectives such as “kind,” “competitive,” “happy,” “anxious,” “creative,” “diligent,” etc.) powerful statistics can identify patterns. People who describe themselves as “kind” tend not to consider themselves “competitive,” for example, but are likely to accept “cooperative” and “caring.” Likewise, creative types might regard themselves as “curious” and “inventive,” while the diligent types are also “dutiful” and “orderly.”

Once a relatively standard model had been agreed upon, and been deemed reliable and valid, then differences, such as those between the sexes, could be investigated. What emerged? First, men and women are more similar than they are different. Even when men and women are most different — in those cultures where they differ most, and along those trait dimensions where they differ most — they are more similar than different. However, the differences that do exist are large enough so that they play an important role in determining or at least affecting important life outcomes, such as occupational choice.

Where are the largest differences? Men are less agreeable (more competitive, harsher, tough-minded, skeptical, unsympathetic, critically-minded, independent, stubborn). This is in keeping with their proclivity, also documented cross-culturally, to manifest higher rates of violence and antisocial or criminal behavior, such that incarceration rates for men vs women approximate 10:1. Women are higher in negative emotion, or neuroticism. They experience more anxiety, emotional pain, frustration, grief, self-conscious doubt, and disappointment. This seems to emerge at puberty.

There are other sex differences as well, but they aren’t as large, excepting that of interest: men are comparatively more interested in things and women in people. This is the largest psychological difference between men and women yet identified. And these differences drive occupational choice, particularly at the extremes. Engineers, for example, tend to be those who are not only interested in things, but who are more interested in things than most people, men or women.

The best explanation, so far, for the fact of the growing differences is that there are two reasons for the differences between men and women: biology and culture. If you minimize the cultural differences (as you do with egalitarian social policies) then you allow the biological differences to manifest themselves fully. I have seen social scientists struggle to offer a cultural explanation, but I haven’t heard any such hypothesis that is the least bit credible, and have been unable to formulate one myself.

There are also those who insist that we just haven’t gone far enough in our egalitarian attempts — that even Scandinavia and The Netherlands, arguably the world’s most egalitarian societies, are still rampantly patriarchal — but that doesn’t explain why the sex differences have grown, rather than shrunk, as those cultures have become demonstrably more equal in social policy.

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 Therefore, why choose an immoral republican over a moral republican?

Because morals doesn't create jobs or protect you from Antifa riots. Policies do that. McCain and Romney didn't understand this, so they predictably lost big to a Democrat.
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any republican is better than a democrat?

McCain and Romney sure as hell were not better.
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@lady3keys
All politicians are Caesars.
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