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@drafterman
Total mistake, not coincidence.
Address the 36-hour lurk by Speed.
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@drafterman
80% chance you would have been framed due to your 6/7 vote on DP1
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@drafterman
I already told you, it was a scum slip. A mistake, and they got caught.
Outside of a 36-hour lurk, this mistake would be written off as coincidence.
Town is fully aware of Speed's 36-hour lurk, so it's certain of 2 of the 3 on the scum team. I still have you as 75%
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@oromagi
In my mind, it would make little difference due to the voting DP1. I knowe DP1 there was likely a framer for balance reasons assuming I was not blocked. Because Drafter had so much pressure DP1, it's at least 80% certain Drafter would have been the framer target, regardless of Drafter's affiliation. I would NEVER have chosen to cop Drafter under those circumstances.
In any case, it makes no difference to the fact scum slipped, and we know who the scum team is with good accuracy.
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@Vader
Did Pie
A) redirect my Action onto Drafter or did he
B) redirect actions targetting me on to Drafter?
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@drafterman
Because it wouldn't have raised any warning flags outside of being caught in a 36-hour lurk.
Your team is busted dude. sorry.
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@drafterman
It's ONLY a slip because speed was banking on town being too lazy to notice his 36-hour lurk.
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@Speedrace
I'm saying you made one mistake and got caught. 36 hours of lurking shouldn't have been followed by a tunnel defense of Iron within minutes of his return. That's beyond odds to shrug off as coincidence.
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@oromagi
Not at all. It can't possibly be coincidence after a 36 hour lurk of speed.
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@drafterman
Scum didn't think town was paying attention to the 36 hour lurk of speed, and they got caught.
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@ILikePie5
Due to the scumslip we know speed and toaster are in a PM together.
Drafter is 75% likely to be the 3rd member but I will reserve 25% for pressF.
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@ILikePie5
We already know the scumteam from the scumslip. I really don't care which of the team we lynch but toaster is the most likely to get the votes.
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@ILikePie5
ok, that means you're innoed town and toaster is still the lynch today.
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@drafterman
Well goddamn it, everything is backwards now. Pie if you are town why the fuck would you do that. Drafter was absolutely the MOST likely person to be framed due to the voting DP1. If you are town, you might have cost town the game with that.
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@drafterman
Besides, I am 99% sure pie is going to vote toaster, that only means town needs oro or pressF to hammer.
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@drafterman
In my mind it's an autolose since you have no way of defending such a rediculous scum slip, and town should be competent enough to follow through.
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@drafterman
It is an autolose if town doesn't recognize a 36 hour lurk followed by a collaborative reply at the same time is not a scumslip.
That would mean town would not have enough competent players left to win the game.
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@drafterman
Also, I tried to vig Bullish last night and it failed.
You should have led with this earlier before scumteam goofed up with the 36 hour lurk and then the team response at the same time.
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Gutsy move to call Iran's bluff.
I wonder if this was more as a signal to NK than anything that had to do with Iran?
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@drafterman
@ILikePie5
@oromagi
@WaterPhoenix
Try lurking for 36 hours first and then post at the same time.
Scum got caught, this is a slam dunk vote for town.
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@drafterman
Either justify why you want to tunnel town the people you are tunneling as town or shut it.
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@oromagi
Don't be that guy that lost the game for town.
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@WaterPhoenix
You have to vote Toaster. If you let them get away with this obvious buddy/lynch derail town auto loses.
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@drafterman
Nah, Pie is going to do the right thing. Scum isn't going to pull a hail mary with pie in the game.
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@drafterman
you're suggesting that scum deliberately coordinate posting at the exact same time.
This is something a townie would say. Especially noting the 36 hour lurk.
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@Speedrace
I was catching up on the DP and got to the last page, refreshed, and iron had posted. Simple coincidence.
I don't buy coincidences, especially after a 36 hour lurk.
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I am really disappointed at the lack of bussing this game. Makes the game too obvious.
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@irontoaster
And you are not even pretending to see that as scum behavior by speed.
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@irontoaster
In fact, if I had anyone just blindly assumed I was town without proof,
that would auto make him scum in my eyes until he revealed a justification.
Speed isn't even pretending to have a justification to defend you.
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@irontoaster
Speed lurks for 36 hours and conveniently returns when you do. Any town would be questioning that.
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@irontoaster
No, it's the team work. Highly suspicious for speed to post within a few minutes of your return if he wasn't on your scumteam. The fact that you are not questioning that proves you are not playing like a town would,
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@Lunatic
It seems like speed was telling toaster to stop pressuring Luna because that would go absolutely nowhere
and push a WP lynch which almost succeeded DP1 when it was voted up super fast.
Then BOOM speed decides to post conveniently.
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@Lunatic
Did you see the time stamp?
Speed posted less than a minute after Toaster. Smells so much like scumchat collaboration.
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@Lunatic
@Bullish
@ILikePie5
@WaterPhoenix
@Singularity
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@ILikePie5
@PressF4Respect
process of elimination means you and pie have to vtl toaster
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@Lunatic
Calling speed/toaster team as Speeed lurked until his buddy got on.
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@Lunatic
@Bullish
@ILikePie5
@Singularity
thoughts on who to cop?
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@drafterman
@ILikePie5
Except you don't have the votes
Oh yeah? well, let's just get pie, confirmed town to hammer this bitch.
PIE I SUMMON THEE.
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@WaterPhoenix
Everyone has a phone and can type in a simple message to say "replace me."
If you get so sick that you can't use your phone, well that's too bad, and you probably won't care at that point whether or not you get banned from a forum game.
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@WaterPhoenix
If you know you can't play as town, either don't sign up or replace yourself. That's not asking alot.
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@WaterPhoenix
No, it's not aggressive. Everyone knows when you sign up for these games what's required, and if you have a reason to be inactive, you either state it and ask the players for concessions, or you replace yourself. the Mod shouldn't have to do this.
If you know you can't play as town, either don't sign up or replace yourself. That's not asking alot.
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@Lunatic
@WaterPhoenix
whether or not toaster is town or not, we can't allow scum to lurk, mod action or no. If scum is allowed to lurk as a viable defense, town loses by default.
When you sign up to play and you get a town role, it's your responsibility to be active or give a really good reason for life circumstances why you can't be active. The consequences for inactivity as town without a reason shouldn't be mod action, but rather being banned from future games.
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@WaterPhoenix
I'm fairly sure there is a framer to go with cop, especially with 3 scum. There would have been no reason to cover up pie randomly though.
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