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If there are 3 scum left, and that is probably likely, every town will have to be on the same person or it's over.
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@bmdrocks21
What a great quote describing the gated housed limousine liberal politicians.
"Diversity for thee, but not for me."
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@Paul
It's one thing to call people ignorant or misinformed. Labeling people as genetically stupid is a whole nother level.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
exactly and also cry when precedent isn't followed or things are bipartisan, go figure.
It's the blame game to avoid accountability from their constituents.
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I still think Obama is going to endorse Warren at the last possible minute and completely sway the primaries.
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@HistoryBuff
Honestly, the only reason he has any support, especially the black voters, is that his base is deluded into thinking he is somehow similar to Obama because he was his VP.
I wonder if that will change when it becomes clear Obama will never endorse Biden.
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@ResurgetExFavilla
It's so tragic that most people have lost all skepticism of people in power.
The Milgram experiments prove that humans are just not biologically capable of trusting authority and power, yet most blindly follow people with pedigrees and power.
It's revealing that the left thinks Trump got voted in because of his "celebrity status and wealth" when the real reason he got voted in was because the Authority in Power hated and feared him.
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@Lunatic
Yes.
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@disgusted
Tell me where you live since I know you keep your house unlocked.
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@drafterman
survivor is one...amnesiac is fun as hell. jester is fun.
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@Lunatic
I wish neutral roles were used.
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@Imabench
The fact that Biden is still in the primaries is insane.
His basic message is "if you don't like me, then vote for the other guy."
Hillary might have been dismissive of voters, but Biden takes it to a new level.
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@bmdrocks21
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Lol, you're the one bringing up genocide into a discussion about the elimination of culture. North and South American Native culture was not destroyed by smallpox. They were destroyed by the loss of their laws, land, language, and religion...oh and strip malls.
¿Todavía amas las fronteras abiertas?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Tener permiso para enarbolar una bandera extranjera en propiedad privada ... Pérdida total del patrimonio cultural ...Hmm ...Bandera en propiedad privada ... Muerte de más de tres cuartos de su raza ...Bandera ... Genocidio ...Bandera...Si, tienes razón. Comparación totalmente creíble, puedo ver eso ahora. No sé lo que estaba pensando antes.
Chico, me siento tonto.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Probably about the time where my neighbor starts flying the Mexican flag.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
The line would be somewhere well before 80% population reduction I think.
That's nice. But it still does not explain why the remaining 20% lost every shred of the culture they had 300 years ago.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Literally none of the languages spoken 300 years ago in North and South America survive today except maybe a handful of isolated tribes in South America.
If you want to conflate the destruction of cultures with genocide, then I have no idea where the line would be to tap the brakes.
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@SirAnonymous
I agree, but couldn't that be used against the quasi-isolationist America First ideas you're suggesting?
America first is the policy of non-aggression by not intervening in the first place. The fact that you can't see that the interventionalist missiles in Turkey started the Cuban Missle Crisis and the removal of them ended the Missle Crisis speaks volumes of your cultural bias.
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@SirAnonymous
Regardless of that, how is saying that the missiles in Cuba were the provocation in any way ethnocentric?
Because ethnocentrism justifies the exact same action (placing missiles near another country) by refusing to see the other side.
Ethnocentrism should never be the justification for world police policies. That is how you create long term problems.
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@SirAnonymous
I'm saying ignoring the actions of world police policies to give other nations cause to harm Amerca should not be obfuscated or ignored. America had ZERO BUSINESS and no justification other than an obligation for being a "world police force" for installing American Missles in Turkey.
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@SirAnonymous
The missiles in Cuba were the provocation.
Not at all. The missiles in Turkey were the provocation. That kind of ethnocentric thinking is bad for foreign policy and world peace.
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@SirAnonymous
NATO also almost helped start WW III by giving Russia Casus Belli during the Cuban Missle Crisis.
Luckily JFK was wise enough to pull missiles out of NATO countries before that policing action started a 3rd war.
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NATO was instrumental in the collapse of the USSR.
Even if that was true, the fact that this collapse happened means there is no more current need for NATO. When Russia's GDP surpasses Canada's, maybe we can again take them as a legitimate threat.
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@SirAnonymous
If the Fire Department was effective as NATO in protecting American interests, I would most certainly disband them.But if we got rid of the fire department, what would we do when our houses started burning?
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@SirAnonymous
However, the ability of NATO to win and, even more importantly, to deter wars definitely makes our lives better.
The recent Syrian example and less recently, the inaction of NATO on behalf of Ukraine debunks this projection of NATO's benefits to America or Europe. Germany pays Russia more money right now for fossil fuels than it pays to NATO...
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@SirAnonymous
Even if you don't see that world police policies lead to serious long term problems, you have to admit that today NATO is a huge financial liability for America right now and has enabled EU countries from taking much needed local responsibility in places like Syria.
We can't even get them to take responsibility of the captured ISIS nationals!
That's some serious EU impotency and irresponsibility NATO has enabled. That's what I mean by atrophy.
What's also glaring with the manchild in the basement metaphor is that these policed countries don't want us there and don't want America telling them what their responsibilities are and what they ought to do, but will gladly take our money.
These 1 sided alliances are not making life better for Americans.
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@SirAnonymous
It's okay, I am constantly re-reading my posts to make sure I am getting my thoughts across coherently.You're right; I should be more patient.
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@SirAnonymous
Please just make new posts instead of going back and editing your old ones to include more arguments, or just don't post until you have all your arguments typed out. It's making this conversation hard to follow.
How about you chill your fatfingers and wait a bit before the kneejerks.
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@SirAnonymous
Right now, Macron is DEMANDING THAT AMERICA police Syria, and Trump is refusing. France is STILL the metaphorical Helen of Troy.I don't see your point.
Trump right now is blasting the failure of 80 years of EU world police policies from USA that spawned a bloated, dysfunctional NATO that can't take care of small local problems like Syria.
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@SirAnonymous
1. America entered the war in 1941, not 1940. 1940 was the year Germany invaded France.
Lend-Lease and Military Aid to the Allies in the Early Years of World War II. During World War II, the United States began to provide significant military supplies and other assistance to the Allies in September 1940.
Without lend-lease, UK would have probably surrendered near 1941.
2... to the US..
As in every world police action the USA takes, USA claims precisely zero of the territory while another power actor claims the unpoliced parts as sovereign territory. The policed section falls into atrophy over time, since it's not a territory of the USA and not under any real compulsion whatsoever except shallow attempts at extortion by "threatening" to leave.
World Police creates far more long term problems.
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We did not create a power vacuum in 1941. We filled it ourselves.
lol...
World police flopped in 1940. Power vacuums are very bad.
Right now, Macron is DEMANDING THAT AMERICA police Syria, and Trump is refusing. France is STILL the metaphorical Helen of Troy.
NATO is funded mostly by America, creating a bunch of weak EU nations unable to defend themselves from any invasion, or handle local conflicts like Syria. It's time to kick the EU out of the basement. We should never have been there in the 1st place.
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@bmdrocks21
In a multicultural un-assimilated society, you will have cloisters of people disagreeing with the Constitution mostly because they have not lived in the country long enough to appreciate the constitution. They might enjoy unique freedoms as Americans but have no clue why they are allowed to have them.
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@SirAnonymous
Lol no there wouldn't be a 3rd world war because America first would never allow it.
And Russia wouldn't have had as nearly as much success without USA lend/lease.
America first would also mean no sanctions on Germany.
America first would also have meant an early peace with UK, so Hitler would have been far more capable of meeting the Russians in battle.
America being the world police creating power vacuums was a bad idea in 1940 and it's still a bad idea today.
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@SirAnonymous
There also would have been no Korea or Vietnam. Russian meddling would have been as irrelevant then having lost the war as they are today having the GDP of Canada.. with Germany checking their dominance... Japanese would have been a check against Chinese dominance in Asia, and Japan has always been slightly less xenophobic than China regarding trade.
Under every metric USA would have been far stronger, wealthier, and safer pursuing America First policies.
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@SirAnonymous
Because there wouldn't be any "cold" war, and all the GDP wasted on bombs and planes would have been manufactured into tractors and refrigerators had we never entered the war. It's also likely we would have been given favored trading status by both Germany and Japan.
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@SirAnonymous
USA isn't China. USA first.
In fact, USA would be far stronger today if Germany and Japan won the war.
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@SirAnonymous
We gave them Casus Belli. Period.
We didn't just stop trade with them either, FDR seized all Japanese assets as well.
All Sanctions are a call for war or negotiation.
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@Jeff_Goldblum
States should pursue a national interest for pragmatic reasons only and never a moral one.
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@bmdrocks21
In August 1964, when the so-called Gulf of Tonkin incident prompted Congress to grant expansive war-making powers to newly installed President Lyndon B. Johnson.
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@bmdrocks21
So was FDR who embargoed the Japanese and forced them to declare war on America, killing many American Marines for useless islands in the Pacific. Fucking warmongers.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Also, I didn't know there was a law that allows you to invade countries if you have the correct spray tan.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
How about we just call em Deplorables. Is that a safe slur the left can use still?
Poor Barron.
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@David
New rule..if you vote or unvote you have to tag Virt.
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