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@AvoidDeath
@SirAnonymous
Avoid is an sk obv.
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@SirAnonymous
Mafia don't have individual roles that kill. They have a chat where collectively decide who to kill.

Correct.

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@Discipulus_Didicit
Fine I am mafia.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I thought you guys wanted to kill the town off since town is the weakest team on the board.
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@SirAnonymous
Better me than you.
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@SirAnonymous
not if you lynch me (hint hint)
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@SirAnonymous
VTNL is better when there's a really decent chance of hitting a survivor randomly.

Even if I wasn't a survivor I would vtnl.
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@SirAnonymous
Stating a truism without explaining how a vtnl helps you survive is not a very good answer.

I know. Do what you gotta do.
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@drafterman
It's fine. I would vote myself too if I was in your shoes.
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@SirAnonymous
Survivors gotta survive :)
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Liberalism In Action
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@coal
There are always examples for what NOT to do :)
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Grand ShitPiss Society Meeting 1: Worst US Politician Selections
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@Imabench
I see what you are doing in this thread, And I think it is hilarious, you mastertroll.
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@coal
It's a good template for discussing misleading headlines.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
VTNL is best because survivors gotta survive ;)

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Normally I would full claim, but it's best to just let the killing commence tonight and go from there.

VTNL
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@Lunatic
Also, you should know that Me being harsh in-game on you was nothing personal about you or your gameplay. It was only desperation to break the sheeps up, Airmax being the ONLY person to entertain the notion of a POE vote.
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@Lunatic
I'm totally not faulting your gameplay. I think in this particular setup with a sheeping town, we were going to spin our wheels with your analysis. I really didn't want to lynch you as scum, only as poe to help town.

I actually thought your gameplay was outstanding, it's just Speed's gameplay coupled with a sheeping town was kryptonite to your superman.
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@Speedrace
I'm just saying keeping him alive helped town sheep a string of mislynches.
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@Speedrace
Luna had a mislynch every single day. 
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@Speedrace
We needed to kill Luna because your entire strategy revolved around keeping Luna alive after the Drafter mislynch.

The Luna POE would have most certainly left you vulnerable on the DP1 AROSE lynch list. It's just too bad the town was a sheep factory.

The sheeps won this game for you, not me or Luna.
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@drafterman
And of course, the fact that Luna was a sheepmagnet meant there would be no POE. And no way to narrow that AROSE DP1 vote.
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@drafterman
Right, I think it was the fact the town was mindlessly sheeping Luna that mostly made him a liability, not his gameplay.
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@drafterman
Just look at this vote DP1. Town should have had this easy if they did the simple POE.

AROSE: 5/7 (Lunatic, Supa, Press, speed, grey)

All town would have to do is POE the fishy people and work their way up. I would have totally gone for a 1v1 with speed after Luna was POE'd.

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@drafterman
The reason why I wanted to POE Lunatic was precisely because of the AROSE vote in DP1 and then the Drafter mislynch vote following..

Either Luna was scum or there was some bad chemistry or some other reason that was going to make Luna a liability for the town. It was straight mislynches by Luna EVERY DAY.


While I had my sus of Luna and Arose... if luna was dead and I did come around to realize Arose likely wouldn't have bussed Sir anon DP1...

That would have left very few scum to pick from on that DP1 vote. Unfortunately, as long as Luna was alive, I wasn't able to push that on the town.
I knew for a fact after the drafter vote that Luna was going to be a liability to the town from then on. 

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Office Mafia D7
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@Wylted
This is why we needed to POE luna early. Town leaving him alive EVEN THOUGH he was town lead to a series of mislynches.
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Survive the Killer Mafia (sign-ups) [open setup]
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@Mharman
hii
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All Roads Lead To Putin { dictator/thug }
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@ebuc
We don't live in a 2-dimensional world.
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@ebuc
Never trust a person that says "all"
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@David
I thought this was going to be an ED advertisement.
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@coal
Why can't Pelosi put an end to it, or is this somehow a way for the DNC to sink Biden by keeping his son in the news cycle?
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
With commentary that would make any civil rights advocate cringe, Nunez explained that three public policy implementations alienated the average American voter. He pointed out that these were voters who overwhelmingly supported Lyndon Johnson and his Great Society reforms. Nunez explained that the programs had “good intentions,” but “poor methodology.”
Nunez believes the first mistake made was instituting hiring quotas. People who wanted reforms to help the poor found themselves in line with workers who could cut in front of them as the Great Society attempted to level a playing field made unequal by age-old discriminations. Decisions for hiring included consideration of race and past oppression. Unemployed contemporaries vying for available jobs didn’t find these affirmative action qualifications germane when it came to competing with the socially underprivileged if it meant that they themselves remained out of work.
The second mistake was the location of public housing in middle-class neighborhoods. As Housing and Urban Development (HUD) started building low-income housing, their efforts to build those homes outside the poverty zone alienated the same middle-class voters who had voted for the reforms. The NIMBYs — an anagram used to describe these folks and formed from the phrase “not in my back yard” — wanted to help the poor, just not in their own neighborhoods.

Nunez said the third and final methodological mistake was bussing. As part of education reform, poor kids were bussed to more affluent school districts, and kids from those well-to-do neighborhoods were bussed to the poor kids’ schools. Nunez contended that bussing really annoyed families who often purchased homes precisely because of the school district, and then learned that their kids wouldn’t be allowed to attend those schools.
Nunez described the Reagan Revolution — President Ronald Reagan’s political strategy of offering to “get government off your back” — as a brilliant exploitation of the disgruntled feelings these reforms had caused.

This is what happens when the government demands equal outcomes from the public.

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@HistoryBuff
It's easy to say that when drug use is still very much criminalized and it is very difficult to actually help these people. 

That's an easy way to explain the social Petri dish California "government" created.

The only thing difficult about the situation is getting politicians to drop the impotent virtue-signaling and start taking care of the public by making the hard, responsible choices other cities have done.

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@TheDredPriateRoberts
It's impossible to get people to voluntarily rehabilitate when there are no consequences for taking a shit in the middle of the street in California.

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@HistoryBuff
California has a huge public defecation problem. Decriminalization has consequences.
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In short, Looney Liberal Califonia proved that drug use isn't a victimless crime. Society suffers from crime and the spread of medieval diseases. Simply building safe spaces for them is only making the problem worse.
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@HistoryBuff
This doesn't even make sense. 


According to Bales and other experts, California made homelessness worse by making perfect housing the enemy of good housing, by liberalizing drug laws, and by opposing mandatory treatment for mental illness and drug addiction.

Other states have done a better job despite spending less money. “This isn’t rocket science,” said John Snook, who runs the Treatment Advocacy Center, which advises states on mental health and homelessness policy around the country. “Arizona is a red state that doesn’t spend a ton on its services but is the best scenario in every aspect. World-class coordination with law enforcement. Strong oversight. They don’t let people fall apart and then return to jail in 30 days like California does.”

What happened in California isn’t the first time that we progressives let our idealism get the better of us. To understand how the current disaster unfolded, we have to go back in time, back to the post-World War II era when progressive reformers convinced themselves and others that they could destroy the country’s system for dealing with the mentally ill and replace it with a radically different and wholly unproven alternative.

For decades, many progressives have claimed that homelessness is really just a kind of poverty, a manifestation of social inequality. In 1986, celebrity comedians Whoppi Goldberg, Robin Williams, and Billy Crystal held “Comic Relief,” a telethon for homelessness. Throughout it, they emphasized that the homeless were just like you and me, just poorer. Today, many of California’s leading homelessness advocates insist that the current crisis is due mostly to the housing shortage.  
Homelessness experts and advocates disagree. “I’ve rarely seen a normal able-bodied able-minded non-drug-using homeless person who’s just down on their luck,” L.A. street doctor Susan Partovi told me. “Of the thousands of people I’ve worked with over 16 years, it’s like one or two people a year.  And they’re the easiest to deal with.” Rev. Bales agrees. “One hundred percent of the people on the streets are mentally impacted, on drugs, or both,” he said.
Most of the time what people mean by the homelessness problem is really a drug problem and a mental illness problem. ”The problem is we don’t know if you’re psychotic or just on meth,” said Dr. Partovi. “And giving it up is very difficult. I worked in the local jail, and half of the inmates in the women’s jail were Latinas in their 20s, and all were in there for something related to meth.”
The people who work directly with the homeless say things worsened after California abandoned the “carrot and stick” approach toward treating the severely mentally ill and drug addicts who are repeat offenders. “The ACLU will come after me if I say the mentally ill need to be taken off the street,” said Dr. Partovi, “so let me be clear that they need to be taken care of, too.” 
Bales says things worsened ten years ago when L.A. and other California cities rejected drug recovery (treatment) as a condition of housing. “When the ‘Housing First’ with a harm reduction model people came in they said ‘Recovery doesn’t work,’” said Bales. “But it was after that when homelessness exploded exponentially.” 
Bales says people have little incentive to do treatment when there is no threat of jail time. “[The Housing First harm reduction advocates] talked about new services, but they were all voluntary.” Things went further in this direction with the passage of Proposition 47 in 2016, which decriminalized hard drugs and released nonviolent offenders from prison without providing after-care support. “Our guests went from 12 - 17% addicted to 50% or higher,” Bales says. “Policymakers need to understand that if you allow the use, you also allow the sales, and if you allow the sales, then you allow the big guys to break your legs when you owe them money,” says Bales.
Snook says that California is so unwilling to require non-voluntary mental health care that it is only now considering more extensive “conservatorship” — where a health official is given the authority to make decisions for a mentally incapacitated individual —  and only after nine acts of violence against themselves or others. 
“Imagine having a sick child and hoping he attacks someone once a month so somebody can do something!” said Snook. “That is so out of sync with the rest of the country, and with what mental health care looks like, that it is laughable.”
Lack of shelter and leadership are factors alongside extreme progressive idealism. “It’s the impact of not having a stick and not having shelter,” says Bales. Snook agrees. “There’s a provision that says Medicaid will now pay for beds in psychiatric hospitals,” said Snook. “It’s a no-brainer, but California is hemming and hawing. They don’t want to involuntarily incarcerate, but it’s self-defeating because you end up with mentally ill in jail because a bed isn’t available.”

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The people in power for the last 30 years have pretty much exclusively been right wing or centrists.

California, Chicago, Detroit, New York are solidly in control of Democrats and have been for decades.

Long before 2016
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Socialists and Democrats control the Industrial-education complex.

Think that sentence through. Socialists (people who believe in public ownership) control the private industrial-education complex. It makes no sense. 

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@HistoryBuff
Socialists control the Industrial-education complex.

Many of them move to California because..
People who have the means are leaving California.
The homeless that are there now are stranded.
Homeless have no means to hop state to state.
They are at the mercy of the Socialists in power for decades destroying housing and job opportunities and promoting dirty air.


California was a shithole long before 2016. Socialists paid the media off to bury the truth.

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@HistoryBuff
Young people are the very ones fukt by illegal socialist invaders destroying their opportunities both systemically and logistically.

Homelessness has never been so bad in liberal dystopic urban areas.

Old people will do just fine.

Liberals in California attempted to censor talk about Califonia being the dirtiest state with the most inequality and least opportunities and the most taxes gifted to a bloated corrupt inefficient government run solely by the Democrats.

Then Trump happened, and it's like news to the world that California is a SHITHOLE.
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Office Mafia D6
Again this will be my only post today.

Town is a collective garbage of royal FUCKUPS for daily allowing Luna to lead mislynch trains with zero consequences. At this point, it's all but certain that Luna has won, and we should just concede.

Luna MVP.

Grats.

VTL LUNA (useless protest vote)

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He specifically stated that collusion is not a crime.
Collusion isn't a crime though.

Collusion to commit a crime is a crime.

There is a big difference.

If there is a law that makes it a criminal offense to hear something "bad" about another person from a non-American, then the entire government needs to be purged by law.
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@ebuc
Trump clearly has no power to prevent you, or any other State from going full retard.

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@ebuc
Thanks for proving my point.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
What they have right now is free healthcare for incomes below 150% national poverty line and subsidized Masshealth for incomes below 300% national poverty line.

It's pretty costly for the state budget AND has not lowered health costs in Mass, despite having 97% people on insurance.

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@TheDredPriateRoberts
What I meant to say was that Mass was not waiting around for Trump to get impeached to move forward on Socialism.

Instead of staying glued to the TV soaking in CNN predictions on the latest Trump gossip, voters could actually be asking the State government for real Socialism instead. 

Trump has no power to stop a state from going full retard Socialist.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
The very idea that a person would look to the Federal government to manage things like healthcare when they can't get support to get the State government to manage healthcare is ridiculous.

Mass isn't waiting for Obamacare. If you want "free" healthcare, and you like the government in charge, and you enjoy paying taxes, you can move to Massachusetts and pay the local taxes and sign up for government-funded insurance.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Exactly. TDS people are so fucking dumb. Trump isn't stopping states like California from becoming ultra socialist. 

Did you hear about this story?

Trump had absolutely NOTHING to do with that local CITY rejecting socialism.
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 Such an investigation already transpired.
Lol.
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Goes to motive, Ethan.  I contend Trump does it for personal gain.  If the company Hunter was part of was under investigation before Hunter arrived, it would stand to reason Trump should have asked more about Burisma than Hunter and Joe, but... well, you aren't going to answer the question.  "Why call out the Bidens" given the facts of the matter?

The problem with this motive is that it can be justified, to some part (whatever part it may be is irrelevant), that it's both in the nation's interest to uncover corruption at the level of the vice-presidency as well as personal gain for Trump.

You would be insincere to assume the nation doesn't benefit from cleaning up the institution of the vice-presidency.

The criminal case John Durham is currently looking into also is partly a personal benefit for Trump.
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