Grugore

Denying a Creator is the same as saying it created itself.

It is a scientific fact. Nothing happens without something causing it to happen. It's the law of causality Look it up. It is the foundation of modern science.

Explain what these four forces are and where they came from.

In that case, you should have no problem giving us a verified example of something creating itself. So, let's see it.

I believe I explained that in the link I posted. Did you even read it?

That's OK. You believe whatever you want. There will be no excuse on Judgment Day. See you there.

Self-explanatory. Share one of your favorite scenes from the movies. Here is one of mine.

So, why are you arguing about someone you don't even believe in? Isn't that like arguing about the Easter Bunny? It's insane if you ask me. I provide evidence to refute your augment. Not my fault that you ignore it.

I repeat. Nothing physical can create itself. Also, nothing physical can be eternal. These are scientific facts. You can't explain the universe without a Creator.

So, genius, where did the laws of nature come from?

Are you claiming that the universe is eternal? BWAHAHAHA! GOOD ONE.

What I'm saying is that you lack understanding. There are plenty of Bible scholars who would agree with me. People who have devoted their entire life to studying Scripture. Why should I listen to you?

Are you a Christian? If so, you should think about this. If Jesus is not God, then your salvation is based on the death and resurrection of a created being. Our sin was against God. Only God could pay the price of that sin. No one else can. Think about that. If you're not a Christian, then you are arguing about something you don't even believe in. How crazy is that?

It is painfully obvious that you have no clue what you're talking about.

It is impossible for something physical to create itself. We live in a physical universe. Therefore, the universe required a Creator.

It is impossible to explain the universe without a Creator. Nothing physical can create itself. It violates the law of causality. The universe requires a Creator. Otherwise, you are forced to admit that it created itself. Which makes more sense?

There is one God, who exists as three persons. That's also in the Bible. God is a triune Being. Three persons, all partaking of the essence of God. There is also the fact that Jesus forgave sins and raised the dead. Something only God can do. Finally, the tomb of Jesus is empty. Who but God could rise from the dead? The Bible is clear on this. Jesus is God. The Alpha and Omega. The beginning and the end. All things were made by Him and for Him. And without Him was not anything made that was made