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@cristo71
Me, too. You believe that he, as a comedian and satirist, was stating a fact?
He was being ironic. That was the joke. His character was to be a MAGA MORON. He made fun of conservatives by acting like a typical, stupid, conservative.
Like the Archie Bunker character. Create a stupid, racist guy who doesn’t know he is stupid to illustrate for people how dumb it is to be an Archie Bunker.
So when he said that as that character, that was the joke. The MAGA MORON had the opinion that reality was biased to liberals. It was an ironic statement because MAGA MORON didn’t realize how foolish it is to complain about the media reporting reality. Get it?
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@cristo71
Do you know the origin of “reality has a liberal bias”?
15 years ago I saw Steven Colbert say it on his show.
“Reality has a well known liberal bias”
Apparently he had used the line a couple years before at a WH Correspondents Association Dinner
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@cristo71
Sarcasm seems to be lost on you.
Some people are able to use sarcasm. Others are too dumb to do it effectively, especially when they don’t recognize they are making a true statement when they think they are being sarcastic.
If I said, MAGA MORONS tend to be college educated, someone like yourself might think I was stating a fact.
If I said, OH YEAH, those MAGA MORONS tend to be such geniuses, even someone like yourself would probably understand I was being sarcastic.
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@cristo71
David Pakman tells MAGA morons what they want to hear?
Pakman is in the nonsense business. MAGA MORONS want to hear nonsense.
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Maybe relying on WAPO for all information has some drawbacks....
Ya, I read an article in WAPO about David Pakman being the John Melaney of talk radio.
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@cristo71
This is just precious…
Perfect. You say reality is left leaning but then you insinuate the press is left leaning and biased. Which means the credible press (not FOX News) is biased towards reality.
You make no sense. But that is the role of conservatives. - To make no sense. That is their lodestar.
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@cristo71
Left leaning media tends to be unbiased and objective because reality itself is left leaning.
Ok, so what does that say about conservatives? They are not grounded in reality. They want the nonsense and the conspiracy theories. How can a party continue to exist under those circumstances?
When the press is meant to hold power accountable, it is generally understood to mean power which is not pro Democrat. That goes for corporations, unions, and the DNC.
And how do you explain this post of yours? The real press reports on what happened. They don’t pick favorable stories for Democrats and unfavorable stories for Republicans.
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This is one of the many differences between Democrat voters and the MAGA MORONS.
We live in reality. When a Democrat is indicted by the Justice Department, we tend to believe them. We look at the facts as they are presented and use critical thinking skills to make a judgment. We don’t cry witch hunt or defund the FBI without good reason. We don’t engage in whataboutism to dismiss the facts.
We might object to a MAGA MORON who points the finger at a Democrat when Republicans have done the same or worse to highlight the hypocrisy of the MM, but we don’t deny the facts of the argument if they are real or cry witch hunt or some other bogus response.
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@cristo71
I shouldn’t be shocked by this partisan favoritism in news reporting
Reality has a well known liberal bias
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Thank the lord WAPO, our lord and savior.
Thank the Justice Department for doing their job like they usually do. Unfortunately, the MAGA Morons accuse the FBI and the Justice Department in general of being corrupt when they go after members of their tribe. That is complete nonsense and undermines our democracy.
WAPO reports facts. That is their role. Jimmy Dore and David Parkman have a role to get people angry and tell the MAGA MORONS what they want to hear.
The adults and responsible citizens read WAPO. The morons watch Jimmy Dore and other crap found on line.
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The MAGA Morons are always saying the justice department only prosecutes Republicans. So how can a Democrat get investigated by the corrupt FBI?
“Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) and his wife have been indicted on bribery charges, Justice Department officials announced Friday morning, detailing what officials said was a corrupt scheme involving gold bars, stacks of cash, and using his powerful position to secretly help a foreign country.“
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@ponikshiy
To be fair. Name a presidential candidate with a chance to win the Whitehouse who is not a threat to democracy?
Biden, Asa Hutchinson, Will Hurd
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This is a forum to discuss political ideas, not a forum focused on personal gossip about DART members. If forum members (or moderators) wish to discuss the personal lives of themselves or other forum members, please do so in the personal forum. Spamming this forum with personal doxing and pointless toxic adom insults is bringing this site down.
I disagree. It’s important to call out the hypocrisy of any poster who chooses to participate here in the public square.
Defending a guy like Portnoy is bad for America. He engages in this “in your face” sensationalism and then cries when people attack him.
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I was watching a David Pakman show recently,
Why am I not surprised
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster.And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
Gee, that’s deep
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Intimidating advertisers should be illegal.
Translation: Holding advertisers accountable for associating with deplorable people should be illegal.
If someone or some organization, let’s say a cable network, has a business model of spreading lies and misinformation on television and other media, should advertisers be held accountable for associating themselves with that network?
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This WAPO “journalist” needs to start getting sued for defamation.
Libertarians are such snowflakes. Always so politically correct. So easily offended.
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@FLRW
He can’t even pronounce misogynistic correctly. Instead saying “miso-genic”
So this guy hates political correctness, but objects when people speak frankly about him. What a hypocrite
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People who use words like misogynistic, xenophobic, etc. on a daily basis and in real life, are insane.
This guy Portnoy, who you are defending against “malicious journalism” is a dirtbag. A slimeball.
He made is money on illegal gambling advertising. He’s divorced of course. He’s a Libertarian MAGA Moron.
“At first, the paper struggled, but gained traction in 2004 when Portnoy began placing photos of women in bikinis on the front page of the newspaper”
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The morons that you listen to on YouTube is embarrassing. It’s an indication of your intelligence. Kind of like a person who watches wrestling.
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@cristo71
Person X doing something wrong can be ignored because Person Y did a similar transgression but to a worse degree.”
You have it all wrong. RR is not objecting to Trump’s conduct with FOX News hosts, he’s skeptical and dismissive of your objection to Biden’s letter because he doubts you are really concerned about how Presidents engage with the press.
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Republicans want to Defund the police!
Because now they are the ones getting arrested
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@cristo71
Idiot student! So you admit he is the teacher and you are the failing student with a dim future
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David Charles Weiss (born 1956) is an American attorney. He was nominated by President Donald Trump to be United States Attorney for the United States District Court for the District of Delaware, and was retained by President Joe Biden. He has served in that office since February 22, 2018.[1]
So the guy who was appointed by Trump put the fix in for Hunter Biden?
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@cristo71
It’s very sweet of you to tag team in your bud’s defense like this. Do you think he needs a breather?
You mean like a teacher needing a breather from his idiot student?
Or a zookeeper needing a breather from the monkeys throwing feces?
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but lord forbid the Whitehouse requests an investigation into Ukraine corruption or election irregularities. Now that there is an improper crime of treason punishable by a firing squad!
You are living in an alternative reality.
Trump tried to get Ukraine to announce an investigation into Biden to help with his reelection. It was corruption. That’s why he was impeached.
Trump lied about the 2020 election being rigged or fraudulent. It was corruption. That’s why he has been indicted.
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@cristo71
You: Eh… that’s not the point! Your misapplied fallacy is the point!
So you finally admit it
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As a Commission, the FCC is a U.S. government agency independent of the Executive Branch and is directly responsible to Congress.
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@cristo71
What fallacy would you say it is?
There was no fallacy argument made. Your attempt to call Double Rs’ argument a tu quoque fallacy was flawed.
Cristo: “Biden gave marching orders to the media!”
Reality: The White House has no control over any credible media source.
End of story
New argument
Trump routinely spoke privately to prime time FOX NEWS hosts while president. He even invited some of them to speak and endorse his campaign at his rallies.
This was inappropriate and an ethical lapse on the part of FOX NEWS. Some FOX producers were aghast by the network’s flagrant violation of ethical journalism standards.
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@Double_R
Cristo simply can not admit he misapplied the tu quoque fallacy because he did not take the time to understand what he was talking about.
The irony is he was trying to sound smart by throwing out one of the many logical fallacies that conservatives seemed to have a fetish about crying on this site.
We keep seeing them, especially from TWS, crying strawman fallacy, appeal to authority fallacy, ad hominem fallacy, etc… almost always incorrectly applied
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Americans shop on amazon and will choose to buy China and NK products.
American companies have their products made in China. Are those products American products or Chinese products?
shit laborers
Talk about projecting
If you truly support NK, you will support this Republican plan.
What’s the Libertarian plan? Oh right, they don’t have any plans. They just sit on the sidelines bitchin and moaning, wondering why nobody will vote for them.
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@Best.Korea
I believe at $100 a day, GP makes less than minimum wage
Let's say you have an American business (or government job)labor is set at 11 dollars for an hour of shit low-tier labor.(the very lowest tier)
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I approve of establishing a minimum wage far higher than the global average for entry-tier unskilled labor. That will hasten the destruction of the global American dollar as a world currency. And the best part is that we can blame Republicans for doing it!
Mr. Glib - unemployed and useless in a variety of ways
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@cristo71
Cristo - Biden tried to influence the media.
Double R - But Cristo tried to manipulate the media too. So Cristo can’t really be against trying to influence the media.
Is this what happened? No it did not. That’s why you don’t understand the tu quoque fallacy
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August inflation numbers are in, and It isn't pretty folks...3.7%
What kind of a dufus posts a YouTube clip like this to try to make a point?
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Trump might as well still be president with the current "accepted" levels of corruption from the present administration...
Bullshit. There is no corruption from Biden. You hav3 a lot of theories but no evidence.
Trump has been indicted, not Biden.
Well, Trump was corrupt, so that gives Biden some wiggle room to be almost as corrupt!”
“The narrative that Biden is corrupt is a fiction. Just as the narrative that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election was a fictional narrative.
Trump repeated his assertion that Ukrainians might have hacked the Democratic National Committee’s network in 2016 and framed Russia for the crime, a theory his own advisers have dismissed”
The morons keeps falling for the bullshit
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“Their bill would raise the federal minimum wage from $7.25 to $11 per hour while also requiring employers to check that their employees are legally authorized to work in the United States”
It’s a miracle! Of course $11 is too little and way too late. Should have been $15 five years ago.
And I have been advocating for immigration enforcement at the work place for 20 years!
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@Double_R
Only question was, which was it?
It was the dumb enough.
This cannot be serious. This cannot be real life. it’s maddening.
There is no accounting for what the MAGA Morons say and do and think. Other than they are morons. That explains why they act this way. They’re morons.
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@cristo71
Other than 2019, you mean?
Yes, and Trump and the Republicans said the inquiry was invalid without a vote of the full House to authorize it, which was bullshit. The Republican response that the Constitution required a vote to launch an impeachment inquiry was bullshit.
Biden’s response was, hey press, why don’t you cover this bullshit attempt by the House to do an impeachment inquiry for something my son did when I was Vice President and they haven’t found any basis to launch an inquiry
So why no vote this time? Are the inquiries valid or not?
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@cristo71
I don’t know if you noticed, but he also wrote the article featured in my OP. Notice that with the Trump oriented piece, his whole point was to interview and report on staffer’s disgust over an ethics line being crossed. Now, read his article which inspired this thread and notice the complete absence of any interviews at all, let alone any opinions of uneasiness. He wants to give the idea that the memo is just fine. He WANTS to carry water for the Whitehouse.
That’s a distortion. The story referring to Trump was about the FOX News staffers being stunned their stars would act in such an unethical manner.
The story about Biden was about the letter sent to the press.
You have an overly narrow definition of a tu quoque here,
It’s not for me to define. The definition is what it is.
I can hear the ad now: “THIS… is CNN! (Bad, but not as bad as Fox)
You are all confused. The BIDEN request didn’t go to just CNN. CNN and the other networks haven’t even responded yet with any actions one way or the other.
If anything you should be saying - Biden…Bad but not as bad as Trump.
You seem unable to make any coherent arguments
I don’t recall drawing any comparisons.
Yrs, you did when you said imagine if Trump sent a letter to FOX
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@cristo71
Oh, btw
a January 2020 opinion issued by the Office of Legal Counsel in the Trump administration-era U.S. Department of Justice, which formally declared that the it considers impeachment inquiries by the House invalid unless a formal vote had been held to authorize them.
So this impeachment inquiry of Biden is considered invalid by conservatives. When will Republican hypocrisy find a limit?
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@cristo71
When was the last time the Whitehouse sent out a memo to various press agencies issuing suggestions over their coverage of an issue involving the President?
When was the last time the House of Representatives opened an impeachment inquiry without a full vote of that chamber? Take all the time you need.
Are you just hoping that I’ll stop asking about your tu quoque fallacy mistake?
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@cristo71
Also, check out the writer of the article— veery interezzting!
Oliver Darcy? Why is that “interezzting?
Do you understand why your claim of tu quoque was incorrect now? Are you ready to concede you made a mistake?
Do you also understand that Biden’s open letter to the media is not comparable to what happened with Trump and FOX?
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Most people do not consider being a politician a job.
Really? Says who?
most people don’t consider being a substitute teacher at $100 a day a job.
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“ As a Justice Department lawyer after the 2020 election, Jeffrey Clark drafted a letter to top Georgia officials declaring that the agency had reason to doubt the legitimacy of the state’s election only after he was pressed to do so by then-president Donald Trump, Clark’s lawyer told a skeptical federal judge Monday”
Trump’s own appointee admits Trump inappropriately pressured him to write a bogus letter saying the Justice Department had reason to believe fraud took place in the Georgia election even though the Justice Department did not have that opinion.
“After the Justice Department officials refused to sign Clark’s draft letter, the indictment states, Clark “tried to coerce” them into signing the letter by saying that Trump was offering to make him acting attorney general. Clark accepted that offer on Jan. 3, 2021, according to the indictment”
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@cristo71
Right, Biden publicly brought a factual narrative to the attention of the press and said “WTF, are you guys going to report the facts?”
Trump on the other hand, would have daily private phone conversations with Sean Hannity and invite the FOX flunkies to speak at his rallies.
Which one of these is really the inappropriate act?
And do you understand how you failed to accurately apply the tu quoque fallacy? Do you understand I would have to disregard your argument because you personally did something contrary to your argument?
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@cristo71
See Post 33
What about it?
You make no sense. That’s why you are MAGA.
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somehow forget about the economy
Ya, this record low unemployment is brutal. So was my 50% pay increase.
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@Double_R
Please explain how making vaccines for a deadly and highly contagious virus readily available in your state and encouraging people to get them is fascism.
Well step one, you have to have your brain removed.
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Government control of private industry is the textbook definition.
So when Trump initiated his Operation Warp Speed, that was fascism, right?
I don’t recall you ever objecting to that.
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@cristo71
Post 34 was addressed to me, right genius?
Note that you wondered what the problem is when a Democrat Whitehouse issues instructions to the media, whereas you definitely see a problem when it is a Republican Whitehouse.
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