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NBC, a known platform for hate speech
That’s a lie. More lies from the libertarian
I don't find it odd at all that only 4 people chose to talk to NBC,
Trumps former cabinet members could publicly support Trump on a myriad of networks and communications channels, but they have not. To the contrary, many have said they don’t believe Trump should be President again.
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We are talking about the MAGA morons.
They are not grounded in reality.
Anyone appointed by Trump who no longer supports Trump can be explained away by detaching themselves from reality.
Explanations include:
They are RINOs. Trump failed to recognize them as such before he appointed them to his Cabinet because he was misled by other RINOs. It wasn’t Trump’s fault.
They are tools of the Deep State. This is all part of a conspiracy to stop Trump from draining the swamp.
The media is lying. His old Cabinet actually supports another Trump Presidency. Even the ones running against him.
They are “ Never Trumpers” which means they have TDS. Trump didn’t realize they were NTs when he appointed them but it wasn’t his fault. He only hires the best people.
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@Barney
Reported for insulting a moderator.
Reported for making a false accusation by omission
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@Barney
irony
Reported for harassment. You are obviously following me around. That is harassment and you do it in such an inane way.
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@Barney
Age of unreported posts is irrelevant. No one is paid to sit around and read every single post on this site.
You’re not getting it. You say these posts of mine and TWS’s came to your attention but you only commented on my part. Why wouldn’t you comment on his part?
Yes, I didn’t report it myself, but you obviously read it and recognize it is a violation. So why didn’t you act on it?
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@b9_ntt
Sure, but the point is the people in this country who think they are godly, the evangelicals, voted for Trump.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
You have no way of knowing that.
Which other elections were stolen in this country?
What a coincidence the first one happened when a grifter like Trump lost. Now all his lawyers are losing their licenses for the fraud they participated in.
And his own daughter wants nothing to do with him and his lies.
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@b9_ntt
Marriage used to be a sacrament,
Oh really? The divorce rate has been about 50% of all marriages in this country for decades.
And a guy who cheated on all 3 of his wives repeatedly was voted for by the religious right in this country. So religion means nothing in this country.
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@Barney
As for TWS, why would I have warned him for something which was not reported? And how would any poor behavior from him detract from the repetitive issue of your poor behavior towards him? If he's called you "Mr. anger management TDS syndrome" a bunch of times, report them, and by all means I'll give him a warning.
So even though that post was made several days ago you just got a report on it yesterday, is that what you are saying?
I want to see consistency on your part. Otherwise you are a complete and utter failure at your little volunteer mod responsibility.
So how many times constitutes “a bunch of times” or a “repetitive issue”?
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@jamgiller
Well you can keep throwing stuff against the wall, but nothing is sticking
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The point is, Repugs watch YouTube bloggers because Repugs, and their libertarian sidekicks, love nonsense.
They thrive on conspiracy theories and lies.
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Repugs are universally hated by youtube bloggers
That’s a lie. Repugs love YouTube bloggers and most YouTube bloggers are Repugs.
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@jamgiller
The event happened a few years ago, so obviously the reporting would be from a few years ago.
JC, I’m saying what became of the investigation? Was there even an investigation?
Also, there is no "maybe" in the article I shared
“Federal investigators are said to be looking into how a provision granting immunity to hospital and nursing home executives became a late addition to the state’s budget before it was passed last spring”
“Reports that the FBI has taken an interest in the saga appeared in the New York digital news platform the City this week. The website claimed that agents had sought in recent weeks to interview members of Cuomo’s staff, and other state officials about the budget provision”
These are NOT definitive statements. This is a maybe the FBI is investigating CUOMO. Did it happen? What was the outcome?
You need to use critical thinking skills here
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Ah, more spam from YouTube bloggers. The news source for morons.
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@Barney
Whoa whoa whoa, TWS refers to me as “Mr. anger management TDS syndrome” in this post you just went looking for while you were obviously searching frantically to find something on me so you can exercise your bullshit, self-inflated power trip.
How is that not a personal attack? Did you warn TWS?
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@jamgiller
“Reports that the FBI has taken an interest in the saga appeared in the New York digital news platform the City this week. The website claimed that agents had sought in recent weeks to interview members of Cuomo’s staff, and other state officials about the budget provision.“
That’s it? This is your big accusation. One source 2 years ago said that maybe the FBI took an interest in Cuomo and interviewed some of his staff?
Anything since then? If not, then you included an allegation of Democrat corruption that went no where.
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@Barney
I don't have a clue how you're confusing hard work with a "free ride."
The free ride for guys our age, (GP and myself) came from tuition being free or nearly free for our generation. I wasn’t referencing military service/GI Bill benefits which is an earned benefit
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@Vegasgiants
You’re deflecting. If court cases can be won on the merits of a “strong case” as you said, why is lying in court prohibited?
So no reasonable answer or explanation?
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@Vegasgiants
You are getting frustrated so insults are all you have left
I think you are the frustrated party if you can find an insult there somewhere
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@Vegasgiants
Court cases are ruled according to the evidence....not because one lawyer called the defendant a poopyhead
You’re deflecting. If court cases can be won on the merits of a “strong case” as you said, why is lying in court prohibited?
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@jamgiller
Cuomo came under investigation for the issue I raised,
Investigation by who exactly?
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@jamgiller
But even the news networks here are divided down partisan lines with MSNBC only trashing the Republicans and Fox only trashing the Democrats in general.
That’s not true. MSNBC will call out lies or misinformation told by either party.
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@Vegasgiants
Barrack Obama is polite. He doesn't need to insult people
Yes, he’s polite. I recall after a debate with Mitt Romney, he said he maybe “too polite”. I know this because I follow politics. It’s a hobby. You may no nothing about politics and just come here to be social.
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@Vegasgiants
Insults are only necessary if you don't have strong evidence to make a case.
If that were true, then lying would be allowed in court.
After all, according to you the strong evidence could make the case over the lies, right?
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@Vegasgiants
If we have a forum where people just call each other names
Um you forgot the important part, - if they lie or say stupid things.
You're not changing anyone's mind here
Nobody is changing the mind of a liar or a moron.
Just be polite
Polite, one could argue, is how we ended up with half the country believing Barrack Obama wasn’t born in America. Is that what you want?
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@Vegasgiants
But you can not call them a liar.
There’s no need. Because in court you have the tool called perjury to stop liars from lying. Right? People are u Der oath and lying in court gets you in big trouble.
And you can be forced to testify or face contempt of court and jail.
Perjury is not available in a debate.
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more infamous TDS spam.
A new hit single on the TWS Greatest hits album!
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Der
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@ADreamOfLiberty
It must be a Deep State conspiracy
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@Vegasgiants
Forum debate is like a court room.
In a court room, lying gets you time in jail. If someone is willing to lie, and lie repeatedly in a debate, there is nothing that will curb their lying. Nothing.
That’s why it is necessary to cast derision at these bad actors. As a red flag to others watching the debate.
When people were falsely claiming that Barrack Obama was not born in America, the best way to respond was derision. The people saying it were liars and racists. If you believed the lie, you are stupid.
Not denial. Do not dignify the lie with a response.
Not explanations. If you’re explaining, you’re losing.
Not even copies of his birth certificate. Facts don’t matter to dummies. That’s why they are dummies.
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Not all wrong statements are lies. Jumping to the conclusion that someone is lying when they make a mistake or have incorrect information can be hurtful and insulting. In an open and respectful forum, we should all give people the benefit of the doubt. Assume innocence before guilt. Assuming that someone is lying right away without considering the possibility of an honest mistake can create a hostile and confrontational environment.
That is why it is important to have the option of calling people a moron. If they are not purposely stating untrue nonsense, then they are stupid, rather than liars. And as I have said before, in the Information Age, ignorance is a choice.
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@Best.Korea
Moreover, insults create a hostile environment that can prevent meaningful dialogue.
That’s true but some people participating in debate are not worthy of consideration. Their stupid, blatantly false statements are worthy of nothing more than derision.
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@Best.Korea
Yes. You can call the claim a lie and explain why it’s a lie. You cannot call the person a liar. In fact, in debates, you are dealing with claims and reasons, not with other persons. How hard is it to stick to that rule?
So in your world, someone who lies is not a liar? Or you just can’t say what people are? Or is this only in debates? Formal debates or any debate?
By refusing to name liars as liars, are you enhancing debate and understanding or obstructing debate and understanding?
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@Best.Korea
You can call the statement stupid, not the person who makes it.Saying that someone is stupid is not an argument. Anyone can say it to anyone.
so if someone tells a lie, you can call the statement a lie but not the person a liar? You know that is not true. Common sense and life experience tells you that is not true.
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@whiteflame
Umm, if that were true it would stand up to the liar lying example.
If someone lies, they are a liar.
If someone says something stupid, they are stupid - or a moron or other similar description
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“One such ad caught the attention of Terry White, a disabled retiree from New York. In 2018, White invested $174,000 in the coins, according to a lawsuit by the New York attorney general — only to later learn that Lear charged a 33 percent commission.
Over several transactions, White, 70, lost nearly $80,000, putting an “enormous strain” on his finances, said his wife, Jeanne, who blames Fox for their predicament: “They’re negligent,” she said. A regretful White said he thought Fox “wouldn’t take a commercial like that unless it was legitimate.”
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@whiteflame
Personal attacks are, by their very nature, off topic.
No, if someone makes a statement that is stupid and I call them stupid it is completely on topic.
Similar to when someone tells a lie and they are called a liar.
If I said they were ugly, then that would be off topic.
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@whiteflame
Unwarranted systemic vulgarity and invectives, which may include off topic personal attacks and/or hate speech, are subject to disciplinary actions.
Well dude,
No vulgarity
No invectives
No “off topic” personal attacks or hate speech
So you are O for 3
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@whiteflame
Well Dude, You don’t want to engage because you are wrong. Because you don’t have an adequate understanding of the COC.
There is zero reference to insults or personal attacks in the COC. Have a clue, dude
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@whiteflame
Well dude
Harassment
Targeted harassment of any member prohibited, as is inciting others to do so at your behest. This includes wishing or hoping that someone and/or their loved ones experiences physical harm.
There is nothing in the COC that says anything about personal attacks. Nothing that prohibits personal attacks.
You an obviously don’t have the temperament nor judgement for this voluntary responsibility. I suggest you resign
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@whiteflame
Don’t call me dude. Call me sir. Dude is flippant and disrespectful.
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@whiteflame
Really? So you have a pretty broad definition of a personal attack. We will see if you can be consistent in your imperial ruling.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
ok, so
The FBI admits they can’t prove Hillary’s server wasn’t hacked or that you never molested a child.
Both are an open question then
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@whiteflame
both of which are personal attacks.
This is what you said. Asking if or calling someone a Russian bot is a personal attack?
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@whiteflame
Asking if someone is a Russian bot is against the COC?
Which part exactly? Quote the exact language of the COC that says users can’t ask someone if they are a Russian bot.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
the same way you can’t prove you’re not a child molester
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The Mods can decide if question formats can circumvent the spirit of the COC.
The same way you and FOX News attempt to circumvent facts and truth, right?
Glad you admit your deception
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Yea, the deep state are the ones overseeing themselves.
How long has America been a Banana Republic in your view? Just since Trump was elected?
You can’t even relate the facts of the Hillary emails saga accurately
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This is the one Kamala praised earlier.
I can’t imagine you know anything about an AP course.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Tell it to the CNN fact checkers.
In 2014, months prior to public knowledge of the server's existence, Clinton chief of staff Cheryl Mills and two attorneys worked to identify work-related emails on the server to be archived and preserved for the State Department. Upon completion of this task in December 2014, Mills instructed Clinton's computer services provider, Platte River Networks (PRN), to change the server's retention period to 60 days, allowing 31,830 older personal emails to be automatically deleted from the server, as Clinton had decided she no longer needed them. However, the PRN technician assigned for this task failed to carry it out at that time.[100]
After the existence of the server became publicly known on March 2, 2015,[43] the Select Committee on Benghazi issued a subpoena for Benghazi-related emails two days later. Mills sent an email to PRN on March 9 mentioning the committee's retention request.[100] The PRN technician then had what he described to the FBI as an "oh shit moment," realizing he had not set the personal emails to be deleted as instructed months earlier. The technician then erased the emails
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