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On March 15, a white nationalist in Christchurch, New Zealand, said, “Remember, lads, subscribe to PewDiePie” on his Facebook live stream, just before going on a shooting rampage, killing dozens of worshipers inside two mosques. A few weeks later, another violent white nationalist cited PewDiePie, this time in writing. In his manifesto, the suspect — accused of killing one woman and injuring three others at a synagogue in Poway, Calif. — even claimed that the YouTuber aided in the plot. “I had the help of a man named Felix Arvid Ulf Kjellberg,” wrote the shooting suspect, who, like the Christchurch suspect, has pleaded not guilty. “He was kind enough to plan and fund this whole operation — the sly bastard.”
Just to be abundantly clear: As far as we know, these were both sick jokes. Kjellberg has no connection to either man, and there is zero evidence that their deeds were actually inspired by him. But he was not a randomly chosen target either. For years, Kjellberg has been trying, fairly unsuccessfully, to shed a reputation as a far-right sympathizer. Partly, that’s because a few years ago, he made some Holocaust jokes on his channel, which led to a nuclear-grade backlash. And partly, it’s because Kjellberg responded to being called out for those jokes, and other offensive statements, the way a reactionary might: by mocking his critics, casting himself as the victim of a media smear campaign and refusing to back down.
Just to be abundantly clear: As far as we know, these were both sick jokes. Kjellberg has no connection to either man, and there is zero evidence that their deeds were actually inspired by him. But he was not a randomly chosen target either. For years, Kjellberg has been trying, fairly unsuccessfully, to shed a reputation as a far-right sympathizer. Partly, that’s because a few years ago, he made some Holocaust jokes on his channel, which led to a nuclear-grade backlash. And partly, it’s because Kjellberg responded to being called out for those jokes, and other offensive statements, the way a reactionary might: by mocking his critics, casting himself as the victim of a media smear campaign and refusing to back down.
So apparently White Nationalists are big fans of PewDiePie. But it’s totally innocuous. He’s not really anti-Semitic, he just thinks it’s funny to say anti-Semitic things and words don’t really matter, right?
this article was in The NY Times. Seems pretty fair to me.
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@Kaitlyn
Now question:
Do you think I said you’re an imbecile because you’re a woman or because of the stupid things you’ve said?
List of stupid things written by Kaitlyn
She’s a self-described White Nationalist
She declares “I'm surprised that people read or listen to any news media at all” and “I don't trust either of those stories to be told accurately at all”
She falsely claimed that Trump won “comfortably in 2016, apparently not understanding how electoral votes are awarded.
She defended an ardent neo-Nazi, who joked about Hitler and Jews a bit.
There’s more but I hate to pile on an imbecile
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@Kaitlyn
You are clearly sexist lol.
Clearly. Can a woman be sexist or are they just victims of sexism? Poor, frail, helpless victims. Damsels really, in distress.
I'm not over 50 and my nationalist doesn't matter in the context of this conversation.
Ya, White nationalist.
I believe the word you were searching for was nationality, but again, the wee woman brain thing.
would simply post "80,000 therefore close" and not realize the folly in that argument.
wrong again tootsie. Now you are reduced to misquoting me to salvage your case. “He won by a total margin of 80,000 votes in 3 states and he actually lost the overall popular vote” It’s the point made in the Washington Post article as well. Do you have real newspapers in your country?
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@Kaitlyn
Your original argument was that the U.S. election was close because there was a difference of 80,000 votes in the end. I told you that U.S. election isn't contested based on popular vote,
But only an imbecile wouldn’t know that the electoral votes are the result of state by state popular votes. I didn’t know you were an imbecile until later.
I’m the only who?
You missed my point about you failing to use proper grammar when trying to take your feeble female shot.
I'm old enough to have you malding
But you are a big advocate for proof, right? And now you are just grasping for straws thinking you are able to cause balding with your rapier like girlie wit
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@Kaitlyn
I had to correct you many times?
You corrected me by telling me you made false assumptions in your uninformed opinion and needed me to educate you?
You're the only who was instructed like a little child,
I’m the only who? A child? It seems you don’t know anything about children because god didn’t want you to be a Mom.
It's fine. I've got plenty of time.
You’re not as young as you think. A woman’s expiration date comes up pretty fast. Take this friendly advice though - always remember, A moment on the lips, a lifetime on the hips.
sexist? Well that didn’t take long for you to cry sexism. Poor, poor victim.
knickers? You must be a Brit, otherwise you must be over 50. But as a self declared White Nationalist I would guess you are South African.
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Expediency
Oh, so he’s a total whore not willing to tow the White Supremacy line.
It sounds like hyperbole in celebration of black rights.
Oh so he was actually a big supporter of civil rights. I see. Oh I bet you too are a big, big ally for equal rights for blacks. You are their biggest supporter no doubt.
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@Kaitlyn
Did it hurt your fragile male ego to be instructed by a woman like that? Must have made you feel small to be outsmarted like that.
Um, you’re not even American toots, so you can’t make anyone feel inadequate and your wee woman brain, (do they let women go to school in your country?)
was really on display when you made your false assumptions about the 2016 election and needed me (or some other guy) to explain it to you.
So, no kids though? That would be hard to deal with if true no doubt. Some people say, including a lot of women, that a woman without children is a curse.
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@Kaitlyn
Are you seeking moral support from the disabled guy? That’s a big female thing, right?
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@Kaitlyn
The Republican party is in the United States; it's not a worldwide party for all conservatives.
Do you understand what the word “equates” means?
If you are a conservative, in any country, that equates to being a Republican in the US.
Just like a liberal in your country would equate to being a Democrat in the U.S.
Do you have dictionaries in your country?
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@Kaitlyn
Do you have any proof that people "with the lowest education enlist in the military" in America?
Are you familiar with how the American military fills its’ officer ranks?
Are you familiar with how your country fills its’ officer and enlisted ranks or are you ignorant on the subject?
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@Kaitlyn
I'd rather be childless than have a child like you.
Are you barren? That’s sad.
Do you have any proof that you are in fact a woman?
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@TWS1405_2
You're greatest hits: "That's a lie"
Are you too stupid to understand that the topic of this post is a guy, a Trump supporter in fact, proved Mike Lindell was lying about election fraud and now owes $5 million?
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@TWS1405_2
incel stolen valor clown
Greatest hits by LCpl Handiman! Oh, I forgot to tell tootsie you are also childless.
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@Kaitlyn
If I'm second or third class, you have no class.
Uh ho, good one toots!
You're really trying to make fun of someone for being disabled, someone who potentially is disabled through serving his country in the military?
He wasn’t disabled in his short military service before he was sent packing. He’s “disabled” because he can’t get anyone to hire him.
It’s a great counterpoint because in America the people with the lowest education enlist in the military, and the army is at the bottom of the armed services.
I, on the other hand was a Captain in the Marines and a helicopter pilot.
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@TWS1405_2
You're greatest hits: "That's a lie"
Yes, banal Dunning Kruger type Republicans lie a lot. It’s actually a desirable characteristic in Republican circles.
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@TWS1405_2
can NEVER EVER EVER disprove any of my arguments or factually supported positions
You don’t have any factually supported arguments. To you, Q is factual information LCpl Handiman and I just proved to tootsie that Trump did NOT win the 2016 election “comfortably” and she conceded the point.
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@Kaitlyn
I just checked the electoral votes and assumed based off that,
If you are able to check the electoral votes then you could have dug a little deeper and really informed yourself on the 2016 US election before talking out of your ass and Assuming. Right? Try to do better next time toots.
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@Kaitlyn
LOL
LOL! That guy is a disabled LCpl from the Army.
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@Kaitlyn
I'm not American,
Well that explains a lot. You are second class or perhaps third and talking out of your ass about a country you don’t live in.
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@Kaitlyn
I'm not a Republican.
Ya, your political ideology is conservative. That equates to Republican or worse, libertarian.
Uh no. It took you five posts
Um maybe you are dense so I’ll rephrase for you. Once I went looking for the citation, it took me less than a minute to find the information to confirm what I already knew and told you. Yes, I’m mansplaining to you and your wee woman brain.
Firstly, I'm surprised that people read or listen to any news media at all
You supported this bogus statement by saying that “Trump's election seemed like an absolute miracle, after all the "polls" and opinions made it seem like Hillary Clinton was a shoe-in, yet he won comfortably”
1. Polls from pollsters are not the “news media” even if they are named the FOX or MSNBC poll as opposed to the more common (and reliable) IPSOS or Quinnipiac or Rasmussen.
2. As I just made you aware and you now seem to understand, Trump did not win comfortably
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The quotes you have seen to be a man claiming that racism used to be worse. I see nowhere where he claims that racism is good.the gentleman you quoted seemed to say nothing racist
Really? So why did the Republican Governor of the state call the comments “horrid” and ask for the resignations of all the people involved?
Do you ever get tired of being wrong over and over again?
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@Kaitlyn
But sure, nothing wrong with the data you presented now (finally). It's a narrower margin than the electoral votes suggested --
Engaged Americans are well aware of how the 2016 election played out and the fact Trump won a very narrow victory. It took me less than a minute to find a citation. You should probably avoid offering uninformed opinions about Trump’s or any other election results unless you actually know what you are talking about. But don’t feel bad, not knowing what you are talking about is practically a prerequisite for being a Republican.
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@Kaitlyn
If you want to present the three states, the split within those states, and how the margin within those states was extremely low, please feel free to start any time.
Please feel free to start using critical thinking skills any time IF you are able.
“The most important states, though, were Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Trump won those states by 0.2, 0.7 and 0.8 percentage points, respectively — and by 10,704, 46,765 and 22,177 votes. Those three wins gave him 46 electoral votes”
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@sadolite
I don't believe anything anyone says
Well that’s certainly easier than exercising critical thinking skills. But that makes you a lazy citizen undeserving of American citizenship.
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@FLRW
Sadly, Lindell is a typical Trump supporter and MAGA moron.
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Nobody is seeing a 6 year old innocently entering their yard for a basketball and going "derp I would like to spend life. In prison because a 6 year old is grabbing a basketball derp"
No, they are saying - derp stand my ground! derp the law says I can shoot anyone who comes on my property! derp I’m a republican stand my ground I don’t need to be in fear to shoot someone, derp
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medias intentional distortions.
What distortions exactly? The ones imagined in your pea brain?
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I am not sure why you see it as an insult to mention people have worked in food service. Most likely due to you being a racist since it is mostly poor and minorities that do work in food service.
So how is it that a white guy has a job that is predominantly held by disadvantaged peoples? Were you held back by institutional racism? Are you a recent immigrant arrival? What happened?
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@Slainte
Trump was right to call foul just like Hillary did.
Trump was no right. Trump lied.
Hillary was correct that the FBI announcement days before the election was improper. Hillary and our intelligence community were right about the Trump campaign colluding with the Russians to influence the election. Bill Barr lied when he claimed the Mueller report said no collusion. Bob Mueller indicted dozens of Russians for this criminal activity. Several people on Trump’s campaign plead guilty to crimes related to the 2016 election.
On the other hand, Trump, with the help of FOX News, fabricated lies about fraud in the 2020 election.
You see the difference now, or are you stupid?
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@Slainte
I also think both parties played serious games
Both parties did not lie about the legitimacy of the 2020 election. Only the Republican Party did that.
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@Slainte
So I post an article about an Oklahoma politician engaging in racist and violent commentary with 3 members of local law enforcement.
You respond by commenting “that Tucker Carlson was the only MSM to interview RFK Jr. on. his Presidential Candidacy speech” and that the art of news is lost.
And you say I’m deflecting?
You are spouting crap
What is crap exactly? That a member of the press caught some Republicans saying racist and violent things?
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@Slainte
FDR complaned about phony registrations.
I said FALSELY claimed.
Were there phony registrations? Are you able to know the difference between what is true and what is a lie or are you an imbecile?
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@Slainte
You be on that Kool-aid mainline.
Ya, you probably still think smoking is good for you.
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Well, someone proved the MyPillow guy wrong. Pay up Mike!
Mike Lindell’s lies about election fraud were proven false and an arbitration panel says he must pay the $5 million dollar prize.
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So basically somebody said we used to live in a more racist society
Basically someone was saying in the good ole days we could hang black people. Make America White Again! Then you wouldn’t have to work at Dennys anymore. Hell, you might even own a cotton plantation if blacks didn’t have all these rights today.
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@Slainte
The art of news is lost.
No, that’s not true. What is lost is people’s ability to exercise critical thinking skills. FOX News was created in response to a realization that there are a lot of stupid people who want to hear lies rather than facts.
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@Slainte
You do realize that all elections, since the history of time, have accusations of fraud,
Name one other US President who falsely claimed fraud in an election even before the election was held. Trump is a subversive.
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@sadolite
Repent for what?
Believing Trump’s lies and supporting a subversive
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That is literally just me presenting Roosevelt's point of view. Don't like it talk to him about it.
Aren’t you the loser that tried to put together a boycott of my posts? You can’t do anything right. That’s why you work as a night shift manager at Dennys.
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@Kaitlyn
That is an incorrect context to observe the number in as that would be a popular vote winning margin, not an electoral vote winning margin (again, the United States has the electoral vote system).
If someone won a state by one vote, thus winning all that’s state electoral votes, which is how it works in all but Nebraska and Maine, would you say that person won that state decisively or it was a very narrow victory? And if they won all 50 states by one vote each thus sweeping the electoral college except for a couple votes , would you say the victory was comfortable or very narrow? Use your brain to answer.
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@Kaitlyn
80,000 votes isn't a low number
In the context of 150 million votes cast in that election it certainly is
It's entirely possible that a number of these shootings were performed in self-defense against criminals,
Gee, if only someone or some organization tracked these events so we could know the circumstances of each shooting
Even if the stories are true, that doesn't mean there should be nation-wide reform on gun control, all because a couple of stories had people using guns irresponsibly to murder people. It's such a basic, stupid mistake.
You claimed we shouldn’t have gun reform because of a couple of stories. Surely you’re aware there have been many many shootings besides these two cited by the OP
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An Oklahoma county commissioner resigned on Wednesday after being caught on a recording allegedly making violent and racist remarks and jokes with members of the McCurtain County Sheriff's Office.
According to a transcript of the recording, Jennings appears to say that "back in the day" someone could take a "a damn Black guy and whoop their ass and throw him in the cell," he said.
"Take them down to Mud Creek and hang them up with a damn rope. But you can't do that anymore. They got more rights than we got," Jennings added.
The governor called for the resignations of Clardy, Jennings, Manning and Hendrix
This is not a story you would ever see on FOX News
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@Kaitlyn
No shit Sherlock, but had 80,000 votes gone the other way, Clinton would have won the electoral college. BTW, Biden had 304 electoral votes in 2020 but Trump said he won the election in a landslide.
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@Kaitlyn
yet he won comfortably
That’s a lie. He won by a total margin of 80,000 votes in 3 states and he actually lost the overall popular vote.
all because a couple of stories had people using guns irresponsibly to murder people
A couple of stories? There have been a couple of stories in the last couple days. There have been 34 mass shootings just in the month of April and it’s only the 19th.
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Bo some 85 year old man that has been a law abiding citizen his entire life saw somebody knocking on the door and randomly shot him even though UPS drivers are there every other day, some black and he doesn't just randomly shoot at them.
Doesn’t your asshole get stretched out from talking out of it all the time?
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The kid accidentally entering the wrong house after everyone in the house is asleep is mislabeled as a kid knocking.
That’s a lie.
Just like the one about Paul Pelosi attacked by his gay lover.
Reality isn’t binding to MAGA morons
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@sadolite
You seem to be mired in worthless politics that does nothing.
Repent! It’s your only chance to redeem yourself
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@FLRW
The same dynamic is true regarding Donald Trump's claim that Joe Biden stole the election from him. It is a Big Lie being embraced to advance a racist, anti-democratic agenda. Anyone who doesn't stand up to that Big Lie today would have likely been complicit in Hitler's Big Lie last century.
Yes, Including several of the idiots we see on this site, like Prez Hilton. You know he works as a manager at Dennys. Remember the good ole days when guys who worked low wage service jobs didn’t offer their opinions about politics?
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@sadolite
You seem to be mired in worthless politics that does nothing.
Right, attempting to subvert the election was no big deal and it only ruined the lives of the MAGA morons who came in response to Trump’s lies.
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@Best.Korea
Well, you are wrong because questioning election results actually prevents cheating in the future
Spreading lies that an election was stolen does not prevent cheating, it was an attempt to cheat.
In Russia, you have apparently 80% of people voting for Putin. No one questions the results and cheating goes on.
Everyone knows their elections are rigged. There is no need to question it.
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