Owen_T

I understand your point, Satan was a powerful angel who wanted to be god, but got cast out.

You have affirmed that Lucifer is powerful and wise, such a being would not try to overthrow a god if it was impossible. 

So, you're implying that God does not have complete omnipotence over his creations. 

This is further supported by the fact that god, being all knowing, could have just not created Lucifer. 

Assuming the existence of angels, we know that they would be wise beyond our understanding, being essentially demigods. Only a comically stupid idiot would go against an omnipotent being.

That also raises the question why would an all knowing being allow Lucifer to exist? 

This topic is for recommending your favorite books. 

My hope is that this thread will be continuously active as  people mention any great books they've read. 

The title is a bit misleading. Answers from all non Christians would be great. 

Here are a few I have:

If God is all powerful, why would Satan rebel?

Why did Jesus provide such little evidence for his resurrection?

I'll just paste it in quickly. Reworded in slang

Owen_T - You're the kingpin of the school! Everyone's trying to be like you or be in your crew 'cause you got that clout. If someone wants to stay cool, they gotta roll with you, so you got mad power. You're the Vote Thief, meaning during the DP, you can flex on someone and make 'em switch their vote to whoever you're backing. You can pull this move as many times as you want during the DP, or not at all, but only on one person at a time. You're reppin' the Town side.

It's nearly midnight where I am so I promise I'll claim tommorow. 

It's nearly midnight where I am so I promise I'll claim tommorow. 

I'll Vtl white flame for his claim, though I don't completely trust Austin yet. 

I'm not the biggest fan of putting on pressure just to see if WyIted will put out a fake claim or not. I don't love his response to you (I think we should be assuming some scum manipulation, and RB is a common one), but I do think that if his role is even somewhat verifiable, that's worth considering before pushing him to claim -Whiteflame

Oh sorry I didn't see that you were confirmed.

Wylted did go after JoeBob pretty heavily though.

You still haven't responded to Austin's attacks. 

Again, I'm not going to fight against my lynch today.

Earth's justification is okay. Nothing unfakable.

Let's revisit Day 1, starting here.

https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/11529-heroic-heroes-mafia-dp1?page=5&post_number=148

Earth has two votes. Wylted suddenly shifts to Joebob. He then gives a chat-GPT written explanation for why when WF asks him to elaborate. His tone is panicked, he's tagging everybody and anybody.

He says he's fine with making Earth claim but refuses to actually vote him.

Wylted again defends Earth when Casey questions him. He doesn't take the opportunity at all to try and lynch a townie. Why?

(Also, Casey mysteriously disappears into the night after that. Interesting.)

Going into day 2:

Wylted outs a result that semi-clears Earth. This is well before Joebob claims a contradictory result. Then Joebob comes in and it becomes Joebob vs Wylted.

Earth votes Joe and literally says he's fine with a mislynch.

When it looks like that isn't going to work, he immediately takes the opportunity to call Joebob vs Wylted a possible town vs town fight.

(Also as a bonus, Owen asks Wylted to claim when he already claimed - I think if they were scumbuddies they would at least know each other's claims).

Earth again says that Joebob vs Wylted might be town vs town.

Then suddenly, when Wylted is at L - 1, Earth says he'll consider hammering. There's no progression whatsoever, no reason given for why he's willing to hammer someone he strongly thinks is town.

I think it's just Earth here.

Has everyone full claimed?

Owen is the only alt but unlikely