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@Kaitlyn
How so?What do you think I could do better?
He brings up common ground to move people to his side of the fence. He states ideals in a way that anybody can get behind.
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@Kaitlyn
I don't think every Liberal is incapable of discussing it, but there is certainly a vocal part of that group who will actively shut down and attack anyone trying to discuss it, with things like Ad Hominems, doxxing, threats of irl violence and deplatforming.
He posts non stop about the problems black Americans are facing with crime and violence in their communities. There isn't anything for liberals to debate. This stuff is known facts.
The amount he posts his same topic over and over is also spam at this point and he should be banned for spamming the board, just like Roosevelt who spams repeatedly "conservatives stupid derp"
Here is what TWS is not arguing, because he is either a coward hoping people come to the conclusion on their own.
1. Black people should be genocided
2. Black people should be treated like 2nd class citizens.
Here is also some stuff TWS is not doing with his black criminality threads because he isn't after an honest discussion or debate.
1. What can we do to fix the violence and criminality that the black community is experiencing which affects us all.
2. What is the cause of this epidemic so we can address it together
3. Any posts stating empathy for the black community as more black people are forced to live around this criminality and violence than non blacks.
Kaitlyn,
You are honestly defending him just because you don't have many allies here. Now I disagree with others about your threads. I think you do post yours to engage in discussions you find interesting. That's not what TWS does.
I think the thing missing from these conversations that shouldn't be, is that Roosevelt is basically the same exact type of person but just associates as liberal so he is escaping these discussions on site toxicity.
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So I say update it as needed to get rid of the toxic behavior so prevalent on the site. Also leave the religion forum alone they have their own culture we should respect and it is ignorant to impose our will on them
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It's intentionally written into the new COC that it can be updated at will by the mods and is not intended to replace the entirety of the old COC but merely the relevant portions under the same or similar sub headings.
So whatever it takes to accomplish the goals of the COC which is meant to balance free speech with respectful behavior, which accomplishes that job better than the former COC which was created to push a political agenda or at least had an abusive interpretation by former mod teams to do that.
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If TWS was intelligent he'd be able to handle counter arguments and rebuttals. The fact he never concedes a point when defeated and just tries to redefine what he said (moving goalposts) is also a red flag. He is basically just the conservative version of Roose
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I don't think Thett is a white nationalist, but if you look at their posts than you see they do a better job of moving that Overton window than you do.
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If you learn how to play folk music on a 3 string guitar you don't have to get good, because folk music sounds like shit and nobody will be able to tell you are bad anyway.
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@FLRW
On Aug. 18, 2016, then-presidential candidate Donald Trump said, "In my administration, I'm going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of classified information. No one will be above the law."
He was being hyperbolic. He meant nobody other than himself
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@Sir.Lancelot
Maybe Kaitlyn but why TWS, he doesn't say anything I don't hear every time I am at Thanksgiving dinner with a redneck relative
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Mike doesn't have server costs fully covered. I would increase my monthly donations to him before I bought ads TBH.
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I have Larz email address. I think he links it on edeb8?maybe I can ask him why his dead site is ranked
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@badger
Well why is the site not being listed. It pumps out a lot of content and so, I don't understand how Google rankings work. I know it's sad edeb8 is dead and ranks higher
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Also another place to cross promote with the type of people we are looking for besides modern debate is reddit.com r/intellectualdarkweb
Modern debate leans libertarian, dark web probably leans slightly left but both sites have a wide variety of opinions and more mature users than this site
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@badger
First step is the domain name. Everyone thinks it's a bunch of people arguing about art right now. I have thought about creating a good name and using a redirect when people go to that name just to help promote it. Namecheap you can get a domain name for like $5.
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@Savant
I go there. I talked to a mod about debateart, but I am not looking to spam. My name there is Wylted and i jump in and debate a little bit here and there
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I won't do anything I am about to disappear for 6-12 months but you know. If you guys cross promote so I have something good to come back to that would be nice
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I say go out and cross promote and try to crowd out the bad elements of the site with fresh blood. We won't remove the bad elements but we can crowd them out
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Here it is. It's a great community. Literally engage in debate there and if they feel like they beat you, drag them here where somebody can actually score each side's arguments. https://discord.gg/moderndaydebate
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@badger
I do appreciate you putting my quote in there, because I think people miss my message. I don't think the site can recover quite yet. It may just take a few people keeping the site alive until we get a random and sudden surge of members that snow balls.
Here is a great area for people who want debate to engage with others and bring them here for more formal one on one debates.
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@Rieka
He neveral called you a second class woman, he called you a second class citizen because you are woman
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@Greyparrot
I wonder why the CIA is trying to destabilize the USA and promote regime change.
I had chat GPT summarize this article in two different ways because I was too lazy to read it. It's an opinion piece bitching about fellow liberals trusting the CIA from what I gather.
I do agree with the writer that it's a fantasy belief by liberals
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@Savant
Thank you for this context. It looks like they were urging to reelect trump not grab guns and start storming the capital like op suggests
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@FLRW
Why did you link to rolling stone instead of the posts from the forum where this allegedly happened?
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@Bella3sp
*chose
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I kind of feel like your repulsion by the word nigger makes you an SJW
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@Kaitlyn
But they are generally more violent and less emotionally mature. Certainly we could reduce gun crime by not allowing blacks to own guns
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@Kaitlyn
The right to bear arms should be a universal right in every country. Every country needs a way to overthrow a corrupt government. Guns are a great method of self-defense, too
Even niggers?
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@BrotherD.Thomas
The heathen in post 31 has challenged your authenticity and character and has also claimed that God is not a serial killer
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@Best.Korea
I dont think the Bible says that we should kill everyone. Rather, it says that sin results in death, but God gifts us life.
You heathen. I didn't say we should kill everyone only that God is a serial killer
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@Kaitlyn
Trust me: I'm not interested in a violent, anti-free speech, SJW snowflakes who feels the need to brag about everything they might have.
Maybe he is anti free speech. I don't think he is an SJW.
I think you are comparing him to what an American liberal would be like. You should look up Andrew Neil BBC interview with Ben Shapiro. That's a European conservative destroying Shapiro and Shapiro is famous for embarrassing every liberal he talks to.
Europeans and Americans generally approach politics differently, and I wouldn't call some European liberal an SJW, just because they have some overlapping beliefs with American liberals.
I also tend not to engage them. Let's say we argue a policy position like guns. How can I argue when perhaps him arguing against guns in Ireland is entirely appropriate for Ireland?
Even things like abortion. How would I be in a good position to argue that what's right for America is right for their nation?
I can argue these things on a philosophical level which would be fun but most people care about things on a pragmatic level and so they aren't Interested in arguing a position they don't strongly believe in.
He is also right about the site being held back because it is being dominated by varying levels of bigotry. Don't get me wrong. People like Roosevelt are also very harmful to the site, but he is just a different flavor of bigot than those on the right here. Also I am not using bigot in a negative way and making a value judgement.
I am saying that when the site is nothing but these extreme positions than there really isn't much to debate. Bigots should be welcome here, but once they reach above 20% of the site it kind of ruins the experience.
People like Roosevelt and TWS should never be welcome on the site but with a more mature membership their threads would be ignored and they would just leave anyway.
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@badger
I have set my life up so doxxing me here wouldn't matter. Not a single person I work with or know personally would think worse of me for anything they see here.
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@Best.Korea
He is quoting the bible and so even if he is an atheist he is making good arguments for what should be christian values. I wouldn't dismiss him if you really want to practice your faith
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@badger
Post #33 alone is probably enough information to doxx you. No wonder Kaitlyn is getting warnings about knowing too much about you. You have a stalker. I am jealous.
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@Aster
Not to mention people who claim that they are Christians support LGBTQ+ which god clearly hates, it's the reason for the two cities having been burned with fire and ash from heaven.
Sure it had nothing to do with the fact the entire city was full of rapists
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@Savant
Dudes IQ was as higher or higher than einsteins and he was clearly autistic. They likely wanted to piss him off with the stupid misspelling of uni, also journalists are generally retards so maybe that was a factor
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@badger
Thanks man. I did delete all my messages from this account before sharing the login information which is
Sign in [email protected]
Password panther82
So your dick pics are safe
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@FLRW
So you are not an Antianalist like Kaitlyn is?
Correct, not sure her deal
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@sadolite
So go suck dick, no one cares.
Bro, people care I have to get a job at a elementary school to share this with people
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Uncle Ted was found dead in his prison cell. He was a hero https://youtu.be/K0PgUVMp1CE
He was also a counterweight philosophically to transhumanist philosophies.
I miss you Uncle Ted. You have inspired a generation
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I actually feel bad for them. They have been lied to just like men. They have no ideal that if they don't marry a quality male by 30 then they will always have to take bottom of the barrel men or be single
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@Sir.Lancelot
Probably very true. Guy is obsessed with me, so if I leave he will come and try to get my attention with posts about me
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@Intelligence_06
Having access to my account would make you president. Passcode is panther82
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I deleted all chat logs and don't use that password anywhere else. It's fine
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@Kaitlyn
It's not too late.
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Happy Pride
Thanks. I have my anal sex flags hanging all around my house at the moment, so all my guests can join in on the fun
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@Greyparrot
Me leaving has to do with school. I am studying every spare moment because it is a competency based learning model and paid for by work. Seriously 10 hours of day of study is something I easily accomplish, but it requires sacrificing this
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@Greyparrot
I had my doubts but he seems already to be adopting the exact philosophy I have been pushing the mod team to adopt for a while
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@oromagi
I am having a bit of fun but yes I can't see myself coming on for at least 12 more months. Others have access to this account as I gave out my password publicly and I have already requested that whiteflame ban the account once the other users logging into it have had their fun. Likely less than 12 hours remain before it is banned
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@Greyparrot
I am quitting I shared this accounts password and login with everyone so they have to ban this account at some point unless the people using it actually can control themselves, but here is where I am debating on the once every 2 weeks I show up to talk on it
The community is respectful and welcoming of a wide variety of people. The maturity level of the users is much better than this site. It sucks they don't have an actual text debate type platform like here but 10 times more enjoyable.
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